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    Originally Posted by Kiyaman
    Mafra.....u can not win the Nate vs Felton war using statistics of
    Knicks vs Bobcats.
    Everyone of the members in this forum agreed Duhon is a "tier-3 PG"
    inwhich ran the point for the Knicks the past two seasons.
    Felton averaged 35 mpg the last 5 years running the point for the
    Bobcats being tandem in the backcourt with SG-Richardson/SG-Jackson.
    And the Bobcats winning record within those 5 years were 26/32/33/35/44.
    We all know the 44 wins this season was based on Steven Jackson running
    the point in the 4th quarter, he did it for the
    Spurs/Pacers/Warriors/and Bobcats.

    Nate Robinson do have some crazy antics in the lockerroom but on the
    court N8 is all bussiness. In Nate's 5 years with the Knicks he averaged
    23 mpg compared to Felton's 35 mpg.
    Nate was never given the luxury of having a SG other than the short
    time Nate & Crawford or Nate & Marbury came off the bench together to
    win 75% of the Knicks games (with Crawford & Marbury doing all the scoring).
    This is not to bash or put down Felton in anyway,
    its just that I took a big interest in keeping up with the
    2005 draft class PG of CP3/Deron/Nate/Felton.

    Ponder.....I already notice u r a big Dantoni-fan from the Phoenix Suns.
    When u shouldve been a "Steve Nash" Mavs-fan when Nash & Finley
    backcourt tandem took a decade Mavs team out of the Lottery basement.
    The Knicks hired headcoach Dantoni for what reasons?
    1) players-coach
    2) a same-page coach
    3) a coach that improve players talents
    4) he was known as a respected coach by his players.
    Dantoni was hired for all 4 reasons, and flunked each one in New York.

    This so-call Dantoni system mention daily by Knick fans is the same system
    the Dallas Mavs had with Nash/Finley/Jamison/Walker/Dirk.
    Why do u think Steve Nash won the "MVP" his first two season with Phoenix?
    1) having more athletic teammates in Phoenix than in Dallas?
    2) being able to freelance his running style in Phoenix without coach Nelson/Avery slowing down the temple to add a design halfcourt offensive
    play for peremeter shooter Dirk to score?
    3) Or Dantoni 29 win season in Phoenix without Nash had him in the hotseat,
    so Dantoni trained Nash in training camp all the PG moves Nash have today?

    Hint: The original seven second system belong to the Jazz
    Stockton/Hornachek/Malone.
    Steve Nash seen the same type of teammates Stockton had on the
    Jazz team on the Phoenix roster in Joe Johnson/Amare with a hustling
    Marion who score off of broken plays, so Nash defined the old Jazz
    system to his own style of talent.

    Dantoni showed his biggest flaw as a NBA coach at the start of the
    2009-10 regular season by DNP C-Darko/SG-Hughes/PF-Hill at the
    start of the season that resulted in a 1-11 start record for Knicks.
    The question u should be asking yourself is how good was the Knicks
    when Marbury agreed to come off the bench alongside of Nate/Chandler?
    Or why would u DNP one of the leagues top defensive guards Larry Hughes
    in the first game of the season vs Miami's top-2 scoring guard in the league?
    or even better, why would u DNP Larry Hughes vs every game vs the Cavs
    and Bulls this season?
    Knick-Fans are clueless of what Nate/Hughes/Douglas/Hill/Darko/and a
    30lb less Curry did to coach Mike/Dan to be put in the Dantoni brothers
    doghouse of DNP.

    Oldtimer.....it is July, the Knicks added Amare/Randolph/Turiaf/Abu/Felton
    o the Knicks roster. So far Amare/Randolph/Chandler were seen working
    out together in Vegas. For Gallo to get familar with his new teammates
    he should be involve with his new teammates offseason workout & scrimmage
    games.
    Not show up from Italy a couple of weeks before training camp expecting
    to be a starter or receive 30+ mpg.
    Gallo did nothing last season in 81 games to prove he is a starter or a 30+ minute player in the NBA, other than miss one game so his teammates could go on a 4 game win streak and hold oponents under 100 points for 11 games.
    Hint: The original seven second system belong to the Jazz
    Stockton/Hornachek/Malone.
    Steve Nash seen the same type of teammates Stockton had on the
    Jazz team on the Phoenix roster in Joe Johnson/Amare with a hustling
    Marion who score off of broken plays, so Nash defined the old Jazz
    system to his own style of talent.
    How bout this for a hint:

    You're wrong! Again! Jerry Sloan has been running the same Flex offense for his ENTIRE tenure as the Jazz head coach.

    Defined the system? You literally are a blabbing idiot. I think ADJUSTED would be suitable...how the **** do you "define" something that came before you? You literally make no sense. It's hilarious.

    I can't wait for this team to win more games than last years team and have you complain about the fact that D'Antoni "didn't try to win these past 2 years", or that there was some uber gay conspiracy theory that D'Antoni WANTED to lose these past two seasons to scare LeBron and all other big time free agents from NY. What a joke.

    It's just good ole' family fun when Kiya is teaching English class! How bout we explore some of the awesome grammatically challenged sentences that Kiya was able to put together

    Lee have other team contributions in his performance inwhich we all seen consistently for 4 years straight that Amare do not have in
    his talent.
    Excellent.

    I was not crazy about lastseason team but with any other headcoach
    than Mike/Dan Dantoni we wouldve won 41+ games using a 9-man
    rotation.
    Incredible! Watching the U.S steadily declining amongst the world's smartest nations can be credited to the magnificent folks just like you Kiya, who decided that school wasn't for them!


    Stay classy San Diego

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    Originally Posted by Kiyaman
    The 09 Knick roster were 41+ win roster without DNP Dantoni

    The 2009 Knicks were twice as better than the 2010 Knick roster
    just put together by so many facts/reasons.

    A) the majority of our 09 roster were expiring contract veterans
    fit n ready to put in a winning regular season to up grade their FA market value.

    B) Starting C-Darko and SG-Hughes for 82 games wouldve put PF-David Lee
    and SF-Wilson Chandler into their respected positions as starters with a
    halfcourt starting PG-Duhon to give the Knicks a winning edge over alot of
    teams we were suppose to sweep for the season.

    C) The Knicks deep depth bench were our most important weapon in the
    09 season with Nate/Gallo/Harrington/Jefferies/Hill/Douglas (those bench
    players alone) wouldve pulled out 29+ wins by having a high scoring bench
    when u add the bench wins with the wins of our expiring-contract starters
    u will come up with a 41+ win season of players.

    D) And when u take-in the consideration of the 32 win 2008 season roster
    being apart of the 2009 season roster ..... u do add on more wins than
    the previous 32 win season when the 2009 roster include the missing
    players (center/SG) that were not on the 2008 roster.....
    C-Darko/PF-Hill/SG-Hughes/combo-Douglas

    E) Do u actually think Mr. Owner James Dolan and his up-stairs consultant
    will let Donnie Walsh stand still while celebrity coach Damntoni "DNP" six
    (6) healthy players in the 2010-11 regular season? again?

    F) So the Knicks having a better win season in the 2010-11 season
    than they had in the 2008 and 2009 season will not be better-players
    it will be the short rope around Walsh/Damntoni necks on the line.

    This is an interesting theory!!!

    I feel like I've seen this a few times though....


    hm.....

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    Default AL u crazy!

    C'mon AL! Ur going to tell me with Amare alone we didn't get better??? There's not one player that could have stopped amare last year on the Knicks! I think the management did a pretty good job this year, (FINALLY)! We have plenty of big men that can run and shoot, last year our biggest guy was D.Lee! O and let me add that the management just set us up for the next 2 years!

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    NYKnuniversity.....u need to get to the point just write
    I dont agree with Kiya. Damn! thats not hard to write.
    all that correct grammer reminds me of my Mama

    I speak 3 languages, work everyday to pay a boat load of bills.
    I did not have the luxury to stay in school till I was 28 years old
    to only have friends that speak proper english grammer.
    Thats u....not Kiya

    are u in this forum to prove u r better/smarter than members???

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    Originally Posted by Kiyaman
    NYKnuniversity.....u need to get to the point just write
    I dont agree with Kiya. Damn! thats not hard to write.
    all that correct grammer reminds me of my Mama

    I speak 3 languages, work everyday to pay a boat load of bills.
    I did not have the luxury to stay in school till I was 28 years old
    to only have friends that speak proper english grammer.
    Thats u....not Kiya

    are u in this forum to prove u r better/smarter than members???
    No, but I'm here to atleast interact with people that can draw up some sort of logic. Your points have no substance because they aren't even legible!

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