Page 6 of 7 FirstFirst 1234567 LastLast
Results 76 to 90 of 91

Thread: Carmelo Anthony is not an elite player

  1. #76
    Next season, keep waiting donchris's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Raleigh NC
    Posts
    1,670
    Rep Power
    11

    Default

    Is it just me or are the Knicks better when Melo takes fewer shots? I'd like to see the ball in Amare's hands more. Back in the day, the offense ran through the center or PF, as specially if you had a dominant one that can score.

  2. #77
    Veteran
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    NYC
    Posts
    2,845
    Rep Power
    11

    Default

    Originally Posted by donchris
    Is it just me or are the Knicks better when Melo takes fewer shots? I'd like to see the ball in Amare's hands more. Back in the day, the offense ran through the center or PF, as specially if you had a dominant one that can score.
    +1, good point to bring up.

    Melo's greatest asset as a scorer is his ability to create for himself, create in broken down plays as the go to guy, and to be the go to guy in crunch time spots who can ice games (and play series').

    His volume scoring isn't what defines him as a good player -- if anything, volume scoring is what has marked his downfall from being a great player.

    Amare has played like **** for a while, tho...but he seems to be kicking up his gears some, so hopefully he can regain his scoring dominance.

    Stoudemire was possibly the best inside finisher in the entire NBA, up until this year, and one of the most efficient scorers as a result.

    Ideally, we run a fast paced offense with lots of possessions -- that lets everybody eat. STAT with the type of shot volume that makes him a 22+ scorer with .550+ fg% efficiency, and leaving Melo with enough shots to be a 25ppg scorer, based off him finishing shot clock possessions/mid range game/and playing off the double or tripple Effective STAT would receive on the inside.

    In theory, this should be possible. But you need both the PG to run the offense and push the pace -- which we just recently got.

    And you need all the players' to buy into it -- which includes no laziness, and an understanding and respect for spacing and ball movement.

  3. #78
    Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Posts
    121
    Rep Power
    0

    Default

    Originally Posted by donchris
    Is it just me or are the Knicks better when Melo takes fewer shots? I'd like to see the ball in Amare's hands more. Back in the day, the offense ran through the center or PF, as specially if you had a dominant one that can score.

    Knicks are better when Melo takes fewer shots because he is shooting 40%. He should be taking less shots and help the team in other ways, like playing D. If his shots are falling like the "old" Melo, he can take as many shots as he wants and no one will complain.

  4. #79
    Superstar NicksKnicks's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Birstall, England
    Posts
    541
    Rep Power
    8

    Default

    Needs to get his ass in shape! What happened to the Melo that dunked on people?

  5. #80
    Superstar NicksKnicks's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Birstall, England
    Posts
    541
    Rep Power
    8

    Default

    [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

    What happened?

  6. #81
    12th man
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Far far away from the orgy that consist of clyde, 8's, rady, smokes and rono
    Posts
    11,260
    Rep Power
    0

    Default

    Originally Posted by metrocard
    Paul, Durant, Gasol, Nash, Williams, Dirk are all better than Carmelo.

    Carmelo is Glenn Robinson in a high paced offense, I'm telling you guys.

    I always tell it like it is. This was before Dirk won his title too.

  7. #82
    Superstar
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Posts
    538
    Rep Power
    5

    Default

    Originally Posted by VeryGundy
    I've been watching a lot of Lakers since I moved out here to LA and Kobe's defense is no better than Melo. He does, however, score a lot of points and hit a lot of game-winning or game-tying baskets.

    I can live with their ****ty defense if Melo and Stat can score more points on the other end to make up for their defensive sucktitude.
    Kobe is not an elite defender but he can perform the absolute basics of defense well enough so that he is not a complete liability. Simple things like, boxing out.. etc. Also I don't see Kobe commit stupid frustration fouls or turnovers in big situations like Melo does ALL the time

  8. #83
    Veteran BIG APPLE SPORTS's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Harlem, NY
    Posts
    1,044
    Rep Power
    6

    Default

    Originally Posted by NicksKnicks
    Needs to get his ass in shape! What happened to the Melo that dunked on people?
    Its called getting comfortable being a good player and not wanting to sustain greatness.

  9. #84
    Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Posts
    279
    Rep Power
    3

    Default

    I fully expect Melo to get his game back soon ~ one thing to note is he is improving and regaining his confidence and ability. But he's not 100%

    When Knicks are hitting on all cyclinders, they are either going 7 players+ in double digits or 3-4 with 20+ or more.

    The teams too deep, too good ~ and has too many good passionate players from different perspectives. Defensive, rebounding, ball control, 3pt shooting - there is a lot to be excited about. Just look forward to when they can click all 4 quarters ~ and guys really start appreciating playing defense and rebounding.

  10. #85
    Member BananaSauce's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Posts
    369
    Rep Power
    3

    Default

    yeah, im wondering if he is out of his regular (preknicks) basketball shape. denver high altitude gives you a more stamina/cardio when you workout because you're actually working harder.

    he should start using this...

    sherk using a air restriction mask

  11. #86
    Newbie
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Posts
    14
    Rep Power
    0

    Default

    Originally Posted by Den318
    Knicks are better when Melo takes fewer shots because he is shooting 40%. He should be taking less shots and help the team in other ways, like playing D. If his shots are falling like the "old" Melo, he can take as many shots as he wants and no one will complain.
    The old melo shot 40% also. That's what he is he scores because the amount of shots he takes not because his percentage

  12. #87
    Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Posts
    121
    Rep Power
    0

    Default

    Originally Posted by overratedmelo
    The old melo shot 40% also. That's what he is he scores because the amount of shots he takes not because his percentage

    I think the old Melo is at least a 45% shooter. The current bum Melo is barely shooting 40%. JR is 38%, BD is barely 30% and Shumpert is 37%. Teams are doubling Novak, Lin, Amare etc because we have no one that can shoot the ball. Shumpert gets a pass because he is a rookie and plays great D. Melo, BD and Jr have no rights to shot the ball right now.

  13. #88
    Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Posts
    279
    Rep Power
    3

    Default

    [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

    A video on Carmelo's defense, this was made a while ago.

    [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

    Another great one.

    ----------------------------------

    He has to play defense. I just watched the Lakers stop the Celtics today (3/11/2012) they had 4 Lakers, swarming all along the arc against 3-4 3pt shot attempts.

    Makes me think how we could have won vs the Celtics a few games ago -_-

  14. #89
    Member Hayato's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Posts
    413
    Rep Power
    6

    Default

    Originally Posted by JazRedGT
    Carmelo Anthony took so many bad shots- he really specializes in getting the ball, holding it for five seconds, and then doing an off balance turnaround jumper from a bad angle and barely htiting the rim- that's his shot. Or else he chucks up a three pointer with 15 seconds left on the shot clock- anything rather than keep the flow of the ball movement going until they get a good shot. Anthony is very over-rated- he is not a good team player, and his shot selection is awful. They should trade Anthony for a player with good defense and rebounding who can also fit in with a fast-paced game,. if they can get one.
    look back at his career then start bitching about his shooting.

    at the end of a game, when his team is on the road and he has the ball, the opposing crowd holds their breath.

    do u know how stupid the knicks would look trading their whole roster last year for melo and then turning around and trading him? theyd look clueless. when you have a supreme talent like him, you gotta work through the kinks. yeah he'll have to hold onto the ball sometimes but the offense will just have to adapt. maybe cut down on that a bit. because when we pass, somebody is bound to get freed up

  15. #90
    Member BananaSauce's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Posts
    369
    Rep Power
    3

    Default

    are you a hayato sakurai fan?

Similar Threads

  1. Traded by Knicks, Lee Was Still a Team Player
    By mafra in forum NY Knicks
    Replies: 20
    Last Post: Jul 23, 2010, 03:16
  2. Anthony Randolph's Undetermined NYK Role
    By Crazy⑧s in forum NY Knicks
    Replies: 23
    Last Post: Jul 22, 2010, 12:07
  3. Carmelo isn't coming!!!!
    By NYKnuniversity in forum NY Knicks
    Replies: 13
    Last Post: Jun 12, 2010, 11:02
  4. Every draft prospect who is IN and OUT
    By Paul1355 in forum NY Knicks
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: Apr 23, 2010, 19:28
  5. Replies: 137
    Last Post: Jul 04, 2008, 19:35

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •