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    Crazy8......u are evaluating Wilson Chandler as a SG, plus alongside of a
    halfcourt PG-Duhon. Duhon needs a NBA experience SG to help him in the
    backcourt with alot of things. Watch how great Duhon look with
    an experience SG-Carter.

    u can not evaluate Chandler's IQ as a SG when he is a natural SF.
    That is the same as evaluating Carmelo at the SG spot.
    u cant evaluate Lee IQ as a NBA center, or Nate as a NBA SG.
    Now if the 3 players were in the Euro-League, NCAA, or CBA, then all
    3 players could probably be stars at those positions in those leagues.
    But not in the NBA.

    If u did not catch on to how certain "super star" players made a big change
    in the NBA league like 6.9 PG-Magic Johnson, 6.9 SF-Larry Bird, 6.6 PF-
    Barkley, 7.0 PF-Duncan, 6.0 SG-Iverson, 6.7 SF-Pippin, 6.6 SG-Jordan, 6.6
    G-Paxon, and 6.6 PG-Harper, then u should not be giving out theories of a
    players IQ.

    If u want to measure the IQ of the Knick players on the roster u have to do
    it when the Knicks put a complete lineup on the court, which is something
    the Knicks had few of last season.
    The season before (2008-9) when the Knicks showed lineups of PG-Duhon &
    PG-Nate as their backcourt, Chandler at SF, and PF-Harrington with PF-Lee
    as their frontcourt was the most complete lineup u seen consistently within
    the past two seasons.

    P.S. People kept saying "Nate brought energy off the bench" which made
    little to no sense when Q.Rich & Chandler were awful guards in our backcourt
    that could not dribble the ball up court. Nate is an uptempo transition
    combo-guard, so playing Nate alongside of Duhon in our backcourt gave us a
    better option of having two guards on the court to bring the ball up court.

    Really? Come on really? Have you ever heard of Nicolas Batum?
    Chandler would be fighting for the starting job against Batum.
    I give Chandler performance coming off the bench 2 months before coach
    McMillian put Chandler in the starting lineup. Batum offense/defense is not
    as strong as Chandlers.

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    Originally Posted by Kiyaman
    Crazy8......u are evaluating Wilson Chandler as a SG, plus alongside of a
    halfcourt PG-Duhon. Duhon needs a NBA experience SG to help him in the
    backcourt with alot of things. Watch how great Duhon look with
    an experience SG-Carter.

    u can not evaluate Chandler's IQ as a SG when he is a natural SF.
    That is the same as evaluating Carmelo at the SG spot.
    u cant evaluate Lee IQ as a NBA center, or Nate as a NBA SG.
    Now if the 3 players were in the Euro-League, NCAA, or CBA, then all
    3 players could probably be stars at those positions in those leagues.
    But not in the NBA.

    If u did not catch on to how certain "super star" players made a big change
    in the NBA league like 6.9 PG-Magic Johnson, 6.9 SF-Larry Bird, 6.6 PF-
    Barkley, 7.0 PF-Duncan, 6.0 SG-Iverson, 6.7 SF-Pippin, 6.6 SG-Jordan, 6.6
    G-Paxon, and 6.6 PG-Harper, then u should not be giving out theories of a
    players IQ.

    If u want to measure the IQ of the Knick players on the roster u have to do
    it when the Knicks put a complete lineup on the court, which is something
    the Knicks had few of last season.
    The season before (2008-9) when the Knicks showed lineups of PG-Duhon &
    PG-Nate as their backcourt, Chandler at SF, and PF-Harrington with PF-Lee
    as their frontcourt was the most complete lineup u seen consistently within
    the past two seasons.

    P.S. People kept saying "Nate brought energy off the bench" which made
    little to no sense when Q.Rich & Chandler were awful guards in our backcourt
    that could not dribble the ball up court. Nate is an uptempo transition
    combo-guard, so playing Nate alongside of Duhon in our backcourt gave us a
    better option of having two guards on the court to bring the ball up court.


    I give Chandler performance coming off the bench 2 months before coach
    McMillian put Chandler in the starting lineup. Batum offense/defense is not
    as strong as Chandlers.
    That's the thing Kiya, I'm not thinking of Chandler as a SG in any way, shape or form. I'm comparing him directly to Gallo as a SF. That was the premise of the thread; to compare them, say why and then choose one over the other.

    I'm questioning, and have previously questioned, Chandler's IQ, desire, cohesion with the rest of the roster and likelihood of improving. When I compare him with Gallo as an elimination process, I choose Gallo.

    So any comparison I've made has been directly aimed at evaluating both Gallo and Chandler as SFs.

    If u did not catch on to how certain "super star" players made a big change
    in the NBA league like 6.9 PG-Magic Johnson, 6.9 SF-Larry Bird, 6.6 PF-
    Barkley, 7.0 PF-Duncan, 6.0 SG-Iverson, 6.7 SF-Pippin, 6.6 SG-Jordan, 6.6
    G-Paxon, and 6.6 PG-Harper, then u should not be giving out theories of a
    players IQ.
    ^
    You're gonna have to explain this to me dude because I don't understand the point. Are you saying Chandler's height relates directly to his IQ? That's how I'm reading it. And Barkley was 6'4.

    playing Nate alongside of Duhon in our backcourt gave us a
    better option of having two guards on the court to bring the ball up court.
    I'd like to see Felton and Douglas run themselves ragged at the 1 and 2 for the same reason.

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    I was in Trinidad and Tobago about a year ago and during lunch was speaking with someone from outside the capital of Port of Spain. His accent was pretty heavy and I had such a hard time understanding what he was saying. I had to ask him about five times to repeat the same sentence and just couldn't understand. I mean, I speak very good English and his dialect was just not understandable for me. Sometimes it also happens when I go to London or speak with someone from India on the phone.

    But I'm talking about spoken English, which because of the accent it is understandable that there may be some confusion. They must also have a hard time listening to me. What Ive never faced is the same level of confusion when Im READING English, and thats what precisely happens when I read Kiyaman's posts. I just cant understand what he's really trying to say. All I know is that hes disagreeing with 90% of us here. Kiya, if you keep it simple arguing your points it will make it easier to understand you, but you just try to throw in so much into your posts that it ends up like that commercial for the job website "ladders.com" with like a hundred people trying to play tennis on one court.

    Anyways, IMO, Gallo will be a better player than Wilson in the long run. They are both good, but if the main objective of the game is to put the ball in the hoop, thats where Gallo wins. Defense goes for Chandler. And his strength and athleticism are sweet. But the priority in this game is to score and thats where Gallo will always have the edge and its what makes him more valuable.

    In other words, Gallo has Larry Bird potential and Chandler has Scottie Pippen potential. Larry Bird or Scottie Pippen, which would you rather have on your team? Not saying that they will ever be anything close to one of these top 50 players, but thats more or less the easier way to frame this discussion.

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    Kiya buddy, you may now continue with your devil's advocacy.

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    Kiyaman has resorted to defending Duhon...lol.

    That being said I firmly believe Gallo is better. Kiyaman is a Gallo hater and constantly claims that he'll be nothing more than a 7th man off the bench, but the reality is that he is and will always be a better scorer than Wilson Chandler.

    Wilson Chandler is more athletic and a better defender but Gallo is a better shooter. However, the key here is the fact that Gallo has shown a clear determination and desire to be the best player he can be, whereas Wilson Chandler gets caught driving with weed in Queens and does not display the heart and the work ethic that Gallo has shown.

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    Originally Posted by portega1968
    I was in Trinidad and Tobago about a year ago and during lunch was speaking with someone from outside the capital of Port of Spain. His accent was pretty heavy and I had such a hard time understanding what he was saying. I had to ask him about five times to repeat the same sentence and just couldn't understand. I mean, I speak very good English and his dialect was just not understandable for me. Sometimes it also happens when I go to London or speak with someone from India on the phone.

    But I'm talking about spoken English, which because of the accent it is understandable that there may be some confusion. They must also have a hard time listening to me. What Ive never faced is the same level of confusion when Im READING English, and thats what precisely happens when I read Kiyaman's posts. I just cant understand what he's really trying to say. All I know is that hes disagreeing with 90% of us here. Kiya, if you keep it simple arguing your points it will make it easier to understand you, but you just try to throw in so much into your posts that it ends up like that commercial for the job website "ladders.com" with like a hundred people trying to play tennis on one court.

    Anyways, IMO, Gallo will be a better player than Wilson in the long run. They are both good, but if the main objective of the game is to put the ball in the hoop, thats where Gallo wins. Defense goes for Chandler. And his strength and athleticism are sweet. But the priority in this game is to score and thats where Gallo will always have the edge and its what makes him more valuable.

    In other words, Gallo has Larry Bird potential and Chandler has Scottie Pippen potential. Larry Bird or Scottie Pippen, which would you rather have on your team? Not saying that they will ever be anything close to one of these top 50 players, but thats more or less the easier way to frame this discussion.

    Can the majority be mistaken? Check out a smilar discussion elsewhere:
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    Kiya buddy, you may now continue with your devil's advocacy.


    I have to give it to u ..... u are absolutely right.
    I have to stop reading about 4 to 6 threads then try to respond to all
    in one thread.
    Plus my american english is all F up from Jamaica to Brooklyn to
    Charleston South Carolina. never was fund of this english grammer

    Larry Bird was an outstanding overall player in college/NBA.
    Pippin was an overall player in NBA
    Chandler has been an offense/defense player in college/NBA

    Gallo's first full season in the NBA
    Gallo stayed on the 3 point line from Oct. to February, if Gallo took
    12 shots 8 of those shots was from the 3 ball line.
    we did not see Gallo start performing on both sides of the court, and
    start shooting more 2 ball shots untill late February.
    We do have a "thread" in this KO forum made in January on Gallo being a waste of a player.

    So all these poster evaluating Gallo on the last two months of Knick basketball
    over Wilson Chandler is the same as Gallo's summer League game.

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    Originally Posted by SSj4Wingzero
    Kiyaman has resorted to defending Duhon...lol.

    That being said I firmly believe Gallo is better. Kiyaman is a Gallo hater and constantly claims that he'll be nothing more than a 7th man off the bench, but the reality is that he is and will always be a better scorer than Wilson Chandler.

    Wilson Chandler is more athletic and a better defender but Gallo is a better shooter. However, the key here is the fact that Gallo has shown a clear determination and desire to be the best player he can be, whereas Wilson Chandler gets caught driving with weed in Queens and does not display the heart and the work ethic that Gallo has shown.
    So Chandler/Haslem/Carmelo got caught with weed so that makes them a
    less of a player? right.
    Here is a question for u, this time last year who did u think was going to be
    the Knicks starting SG? and what position did Nate play when he came off
    the bench for the Knicks in the 2006 to 2008 season?

    It has nothing to do with me hating on Gallo
    I hated Isiah for giving his pet player Marbury/Crawford 36 minutes
    of playingtime as a Knick.
    And I hate Damntoni for chosing his Pet player Gallo over an entire team
    of players. That 1-11 start last season was personal.
    Gallo and Duhon flaws in the first 4 months of Knick Basketball was equal.
    Gallo and Duhon (both) shouldnt have average over 24 minutes of playingtime
    last season.
    What will happen this upcoming season?
    hint.... Eddie House got DNP the last 8 games of the season.

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    if chandler had gallos heart he would be waaaaaaaaayyyyyy better... the only thing gallo can do better than chandler is shoot... wilson lacks heart becuz he is slow up there....

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    Originally Posted by portega1968
    I was in Trinidad and Tobago about a year ago and during lunch was speaking with someone from outside the capital of Port of Spain. His accent was pretty heavy and I had such a hard time understanding what he was saying. I had to ask him about five times to repeat the same sentence and just couldn't understand. I mean, I speak very good English and his dialect was just not understandable for me. Sometimes it also happens when I go to London or speak with someone from India on the phone.

    But I'm talking about spoken English, which because of the accent it is understandable that there may be some confusion. They must also have a hard time listening to me. What Ive never faced is the same level of confusion when Im READING English, and thats what precisely happens when I read Kiyaman's posts. I just cant understand what he's really trying to say. All I know is that hes disagreeing with 90% of us here. Kiya, if you keep it simple arguing your points it will make it easier to understand you, but you just try to throw in so much into your posts that it ends up like that commercial for the job website "ladders.com" with like a hundred people trying to play tennis on one court.

    Anyways, IMO, Gallo will be a better player than Wilson in the long run. They are both good, but if the main objective of the game is to put the ball in the hoop, thats where Gallo wins. Defense goes for Chandler. And his strength and athleticism are sweet. But the priority in this game is to score and thats where Gallo will always have the edge and its what makes him more valuable.

    In other words, Gallo has Larry Bird potential and Chandler has Scottie Pippen potential. Larry Bird or Scottie Pippen, which would you rather have on your team? Not saying that they will ever be anything close to one of these top 50 players, but thats more or less the easier way to frame this discussion.

    Can the majority be mistaken? Check out a smilar discussion elsewhere:
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    Kiya buddy, you may now continue with your devil's advocacy.
    Haha! I spent a month in Trinidad and Tobago collecting field research. One of the guys I was working with, Koshi was his name, was speaking English but I couldn't understand a word he was saying. It was like he was speaking a different language. Cool guy though. I just had difficulty understanding him.

    Yahoo sports ranked Gallo as the 10th best SF in the league and Chandler as the 26th best. I disagreed with many of their rankings but that discrepency is hard to ignore. Gallo is easily the better SF. He has more to his game than Chandler. There is more to basketball than defense and athleticism.

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    Chandler is more complete. i believe gallo will improve next season


    This Gallo vs Chandler question has hit so many Knick forums and Knick subjects.
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    Originally Posted by Kiyaman
    So Chandler/Haslem/Carmelo got caught with weed so that makes them a
    less of a player? right.
    Here is a question for u, this time last year who did u think was going to be
    the Knicks starting SG? and what position did Nate play when he came off
    the bench for the Knicks in the 2006 to 2008 season?

    It has nothing to do with me hating on Gallo
    I hated Isiah for giving his pet player Marbury/Crawford 36 minutes
    of playingtime as a Knick.
    And I hate Damntoni for chosing his Pet player Gallo over an entire team
    of players. That 1-11 start last season was personal.
    Gallo and Duhon flaws in the first 4 months of Knick Basketball was equal.
    Gallo and Duhon (both) shouldnt have average over 24 minutes of playingtime
    last season.
    What will happen this upcoming season?
    hint.... Eddie House got DNP the last 8 games of the season.
    Carmelo can afford to get caught with weed cause he's the best scorer in the league.

    Can't say the same for Chandler.

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    Originally Posted by Kiyaman
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    Chandler is more complete. i believe gallo will improve next season


    This Gallo vs Chandler question has hit so many Knick forums and Knick subjects.
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    Dude. We don't need opinions from other sites to back your own. The premise, as I said, was to choose a player.

    Not to choose posts from other forums when more people here chose Gallo.

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    I think it just boils down to Gallo being very difficult to replace.

    A 6'10" PF with a 3-point shot isn't exactly very easy to find.

    Whereas a 6'7" athletic SF isn't exactly RARE, or anything like that. I mean, hell, we have Landry Fields who is a less athletic (but much smarter and much more driven and determined) version of Wilson Chandler as it is. I speculated on draft night that Walsh picked up Landry Fields whose game was much like Chandler's solely because he knew Chandler could be very valuable as a trade chip...

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    Gallo has a better skill set and more potential than Wilson however they are not that far apart Wilson can easily get in the gym and improve his shooting and handling and Gallo can work out in the gym and improve athleticism and defense.

    I think all these threads are useless because its not like we are trading one for the other we should keep both and find minutes for both. Right now they are young impact player who can be groomed into great players (Gallo 3-4 allstars Wilson 1-2 allstars) We should build them up and not make threads putting them against each other because at the end of the day they are still Knicks.


    Toney-Gallo-Wilson-Randolph
    is a great young core something we haven't had in a while we should be happy

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    Originally Posted by Kiyaman
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    Chandler is more complete. i believe gallo will improve next season


    This Gallo vs Chandler question has hit so many Knick forums and Knick subjects.
    Kiya, you know that post of yours is totally misleading, because where you grabbed it from, 13 of 15 responses favored Gallo.

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    Resorting to manipulating and spining only proves your arguments are weak and have basically conceded.

    Last edited by portega1968; Sep 09, 2010 at 09:00.

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    Originally Posted by Knicksfansince92
    Gallo has a better skill set and more potential than Wilson however they are not that far apart Wilson can easily get in the gym and improve his shooting and handling and Gallo can work out in the gym and improve athleticism and defense.

    I think all these threads are useless because its not like we are trading one for the other we should keep both and find minutes for both. Right now they are young impact player who can be groomed into great players (Gallo 3-4 allstars Wilson 1-2 allstars) We should build them up and not make threads putting them against each other because at the end of the day they are still Knicks.


    Toney-Gallo-Wilson-Randolph
    is a great young core something we haven't had in a while we should be happy

    The positive on both players rather than put one above/or over the other.
    Great Post!
    Especially for alot of members & fans that refuse to watch half of the Knicks
    games last season which was Gallo's first full season in the NBA, their selection
    of Gallo over Chandler is on their friends opinion.

    Toney-Gallo-Wilson-Randolph .....dont leave out 2nd round pick Landry Fields
    he look like another explosion steal in the draft.
    Last edited by Kiyaman; Sep 09, 2010 at 11:48.

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