Stephen A Smith: Mello losing patience with Knicks, Knicks must get 3rd team involved

[KnicksWillRiseAgain]

Someone asked Stephen A Smith

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Stephen a Smith responded by saying....

@[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] Knicks must get a 3rd team involved. He's losing his patience with them. [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] via [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

[iJoe]

I'm fine waiting till next year where we'll have more options and a better idea of exactly what we need. We can't compete with most other teams due to a lack of draft picks.

If Melo really wants to come here, he can force it to happen or wait till his own free agency and sacrifice some income (which can be made up with all the marketing opportunities in nyc)

There is always CP3 and DWill to go after later if Felton doesn't step up.

[portega1968]

There is always CP3 and DWill to go after later if Felton doesn't step up.

Agree.. what the **** can the Knicks do? Blow up the entire roster for one player? Denver doesnt want to deal him to NY, plain and simple. Similar to Portland with Rudy. They just dont want to appear weak and give in to player demands.

If he cant be patient and wait for this to be done the right way, using his leverage to not sign an extension, then he can go elsewhere. You can just imagine us trading the house for him and then him getting hurt.. we'd be really ****ed.

Im perfectly fine with the Knicks holding on to Gallo, Randolph and Stat and getting an impact player next summer. Hopefully that will be Melo. If not, then it wasnt meant to be and we move on to greener pastures.

[nyk_nyk]

If this is true then he needs to relax and understand that this is not a simple feat. His team doesn't even want to deal with us so that's a major problem in itself. If its really that serious all he has to so is simply say "I'll only do an extend and trade with NY" Period.

[DontForgetDerekHarper]

dudes stop, this is the media as usual playing us as pawns, as well as pushing for more coverage and leverage to get the knicks to make a move, the miami threet is old news, and they need something new, so if they can pressure the knicks into trading for melo, it creates better stories therefore selling more magazines and more radio air time. The media does this with perfection.

[LJ4ptplay]

By showing his impatience, he shows how important the new CBA is to him and therefore gives Denver more leverage. All Denver has to do now is wait for Melo to sweat and adjust his demands. If getting a new contract before the CBA is so important to Melo, Denver doesn't have to trade him to who he wants. But, if the new CBA doesn't bother Melo, then Denver loses leverage because the threat of losing their franchise player for nothing is a definite possibility.

Overall, I could care less about his demands though. F*** Melo if he's impatient with us. Forget him and let us move on with the players we have. Gutting the team is not worth it.

[XxWinKnicksxX]

Nobodys a bigger homer of Carmelo Anthony then me but really who cares. We got a good ass team right now and I bet we will be a playoff team and we finally got players that are going to play as a team. If Melo Goes To the Knicks great, but if not, we still got a good young ass team with money to spend in the future. After Lebron this is just getting ugly and stale. Carmelo is not stupid he needs money and the Knicks aren't stupid either they wanna compete in the future and not sacrifice to much. Even if Carmelo really wants to play for the knicks (which I believe to be true) hes still gonna do what he has to do even if that means going to L.A. Chicago ect...... Once melo goes on the team you have a instant playoff team BUT Carmelo on this roster right now would be sweet and they would play with personality and play tuff, the way it should be. O WELL, Just hope he dosent go to chicago I cant root for them, it's impossible.

[nyk1986]

Ok, here's what I came up with. This would have to be done in December but cap-wise it works.

First deal (NY-DEN)

Change in Team Outlook: -9.2 ppg, +0.6 rpg, and -1.1 apg.

<TABLE class=breakdowntable width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TH colSpan=2 scope=col>Incoming Players</TH></TR><TR><TD class=photo> </TD><TD>Eddy Curry
6-11 C from Thornwood (HS)
3.7 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 0.0 apg in 8.9 minutes </TD></TR><TR><TD class=photo> </TD><TD class=even>Wilson Chandler
6-8 SF from DePaul
15.3 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 2.1 apg in 35.7 minutes </TD></TR><TR><TD class=photo> </TD><TD>Andy Rautins
6-4 from Syracuse
No games yet played in 2009-2010 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE class=breakdowntable width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TH colSpan=2 scope=col>Outgoing Players</TH></TR><TR><TD class=photo> </TD><TD>Carmelo Anthony
6-8 SF from Syracuse
28.2 ppg, 6.6 rpg, 3.2 apg in 38.2 minutes</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


New York Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: +9.2 ppg, -0.6 rpg, and +1.1 apg.

<TABLE class=breakdowntable width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TH colSpan=2 scope=col>Incoming Players</TH></TR><TR><TD class=photo> </TD><TD>Carmelo Anthony
6-8 SF from Syracuse
28.2 ppg, 6.6 rpg, 3.2 apg in 38.2 minutes </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE class=breakdowntable width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TH colSpan=2 scope=col>Outgoing Players</TH></TR><TR><TD class=photo> </TD><TD>Eddy Curry
6-11 C from Thornwood (HS)
3.7 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 0.0 apg in 8.9 minutes</TD></TR><TR><TD class=photo> </TD><TD class=even>Wilson Chandler
6-8 SF from DePaul
15.3 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 2.1 apg in 35.7 minutes</TD></TR><TR><TD class=photo> </TD><TD>Andy Rautins
6-4 from Syracuse
No games yet played in 2009-2010</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>



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2nd Deal (NY- UTAH)

Change in Team Outlook: -1.3 ppg, -5.2 rpg, and +2.3 apg.

<TABLE class=breakdowntable width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TH colSpan=2 scope=col>Incoming Players</TH></TR><TR><TD class=photo> </TD><TD>Deron Williams
6-3 PG from Illinois
18.7 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 10.5 apg in 36.9 minutes </TD></TR><TR><TD class=photo> </TD><TD class=even>Sundiata Gaines
6-1 PG from
3.3 ppg, 0.9 rpg, 1.2 apg in 6.8 minutes </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE class=breakdowntable width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TH colSpan=2 scope=col>Outgoing Players</TH></TR><TR><TD class=photo> </TD><TD>Raymond Felton
6-0 PG from North Carolina
12.1 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 5.6 apg in 33.0 minutes</TD></TR><TR><TD class=photo> </TD><TD class=even>Ronny Turiaf
6-9 C from Gonzaga
4.9 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 2.1 apg in 20.8 minutes</TD></TR><TR><TD class=photo> </TD><TD>Roger Mason
6-5 SG from Virginia
6.3 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 1.7 apg in 19.2 minutes</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

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Thoughts???

[portega1968]

Ok, here's what I came up with. This would have to be done in December but cap-wise it works.

First deal (NY-DEN)

Change in Team Outlook: -9.2 ppg, +0.6 rpg, and -1.1 apg.

<TABLE class=breakdowntable width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TH colSpan=2 scope=col>Incoming Players</TH></TR><TR><TD class=photo> </TD><TD>Eddy Curry
6-11 C from Thornwood (HS)
3.7 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 0.0 apg in 8.9 minutes </TD></TR><TR><TD class=photo> </TD><TD class=even>Wilson Chandler
6-8 SF from DePaul
15.3 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 2.1 apg in 35.7 minutes </TD></TR><TR><TD class=photo> </TD><TD>Andy Rautins
6-4 from Syracuse
No games yet played in 2009-2010 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE class=breakdowntable width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TH colSpan=2 scope=col>Outgoing Players</TH></TR><TR><TD class=photo> </TD><TD>Carmelo Anthony
6-8 SF from Syracuse
28.2 ppg, 6.6 rpg, 3.2 apg in 38.2 minutes</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


New York Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: +9.2 ppg, -0.6 rpg, and +1.1 apg.

<TABLE class=breakdowntable width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TH colSpan=2 scope=col>Incoming Players</TH></TR><TR><TD class=photo> </TD><TD>Carmelo Anthony
6-8 SF from Syracuse
28.2 ppg, 6.6 rpg, 3.2 apg in 38.2 minutes </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE class=breakdowntable width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TH colSpan=2 scope=col>Outgoing Players</TH></TR><TR><TD class=photo> </TD><TD>Eddy Curry
6-11 C from Thornwood (HS)
3.7 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 0.0 apg in 8.9 minutes</TD></TR><TR><TD class=photo> </TD><TD class=even>Wilson Chandler
6-8 SF from DePaul
15.3 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 2.1 apg in 35.7 minutes</TD></TR><TR><TD class=photo> </TD><TD>Andy Rautins
6-4 from Syracuse
No games yet played in 2009-2010</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>



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2nd Deal (NY- UTAH)

Change in Team Outlook: -1.3 ppg, -5.2 rpg, and +2.3 apg.

<TABLE class=breakdowntable width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TH colSpan=2 scope=col>Incoming Players</TH></TR><TR><TD class=photo> </TD><TD>Deron Williams
6-3 PG from Illinois
18.7 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 10.5 apg in 36.9 minutes </TD></TR><TR><TD class=photo> </TD><TD class=even>Sundiata Gaines
6-1 PG from
3.3 ppg, 0.9 rpg, 1.2 apg in 6.8 minutes </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE class=breakdowntable width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TH colSpan=2 scope=col>Outgoing Players</TH></TR><TR><TD class=photo> </TD><TD>Raymond Felton
6-0 PG from North Carolina
12.1 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 5.6 apg in 33.0 minutes</TD></TR><TR><TD class=photo> </TD><TD class=even>Ronny Turiaf
6-9 C from Gonzaga
4.9 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 2.1 apg in 20.8 minutes</TD></TR><TR><TD class=photo> </TD><TD>Roger Mason
6-5 SG from Virginia
6.3 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 1.7 apg in 19.2 minutes</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

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Thoughts???

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[Ewing33Swisher]

lol! I'm going to be quick with my response so that I do not come off as rude. no. we are not going to get melo and Williams lol

[Knicks4Life_1985]

Ok, here's what I came up with. This would have to be done in December but cap-wise it works.

First deal (NY-DEN)

Change in Team Outlook: -9.2 ppg, +0.6 rpg, and -1.1 apg.

<TABLE class=breakdowntable width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TH scope=col colSpan=2>Incoming Players</TH></TR><TR><TD class=photo> </TD><TD>Eddy Curry

6-11 C from Thornwood (HS)
3.7 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 0.0 apg in 8.9 minutes

</TD></TR><TR><TD class=photo> </TD><TD class=even>Wilson Chandler

6-8 SF from DePaul
15.3 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 2.1 apg in 35.7 minutes

</TD></TR><TR><TD class=photo> </TD><TD>Andy Rautins

6-4 from Syracuse
No games yet played in 2009-2010

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE class=breakdowntable width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TH scope=col colSpan=2>Outgoing Players</TH></TR><TR><TD class=photo> </TD><TD>Carmelo Anthony

6-8 SF from Syracuse
28.2 ppg, 6.6 rpg, 3.2 apg in 38.2 minutes

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

New York Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: +9.2 ppg, -0.6 rpg, and +1.1 apg.

<TABLE class=breakdowntable width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TH scope=col colSpan=2>Incoming Players</TH></TR><TR><TD class=photo> </TD><TD>Carmelo Anthony

6-8 SF from Syracuse
28.2 ppg, 6.6 rpg, 3.2 apg in 38.2 minutes

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE class=breakdowntable width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TH scope=col colSpan=2>Outgoing Players</TH></TR><TR><TD class=photo> </TD><TD>Eddy Curry

6-11 C from Thornwood (HS)
3.7 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 0.0 apg in 8.9 minutes

</TD></TR><TR><TD class=photo> </TD><TD class=even>Wilson Chandler

6-8 SF from DePaul
15.3 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 2.1 apg in 35.7 minutes

</TD></TR><TR><TD class=photo> </TD><TD>Andy Rautins

6-4 from Syracuse
No games yet played in 2009-2010

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

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2nd Deal (NY- UTAH)

Change in Team Outlook: -1.3 ppg, -5.2 rpg, and +2.3 apg.

<TABLE class=breakdowntable width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TH scope=col colSpan=2>Incoming Players</TH></TR><TR><TD class=photo> </TD><TD>Deron Williams

6-3 PG from Illinois
18.7 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 10.5 apg in 36.9 minutes

</TD></TR><TR><TD class=photo> </TD><TD class=even>Sundiata Gaines

6-1 PG from
3.3 ppg, 0.9 rpg, 1.2 apg in 6.8 minutes

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE class=breakdowntable width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TH scope=col colSpan=2>Outgoing Players</TH></TR><TR><TD class=photo> </TD><TD>Raymond Felton

6-0 PG from North Carolina
12.1 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 5.6 apg in 33.0 minutes

</TD></TR><TR><TD class=photo> </TD><TD class=even>Ronny Turiaf

6-9 C from Gonzaga
4.9 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 2.1 apg in 20.8 minutes

</TD></TR><TR><TD class=photo> </TD><TD>Roger Mason

6-5 SG from Virginia
6.3 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 1.7 apg in 19.2 minutes

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

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Thoughts???

Please ban this user before this gets anymore out of control.

[Crazy⑧s]

Seriously, **** Melo and **** the media.

He's getting impatient with us? The CBA most be scaring him! But NBA superbrats tend to have a tantrum when they don't get what they want. He knows we'd have to gut the roster to get him, and no doubt can't understand why we haven't already.

Stephen A Smith knows **** all and is putting himself in the limelight for his own sake.

[nyk1986]

Please ban this user before this gets anymore out of control.

How about you try backing that up while being able to read what ESPN and most other hoops sites are stating. Everyone is thinking Williams will be the next one to request a trade. Might be a cheaper get then CP3 at this point. Now please shoot my ideas down with some insight.

[iJoe]

How about you try backing that up while being able to read what ESPN and most other hoops sites are stating. Everyone is thinking Williams will be the next one to request a trade. Might be a cheaper get then CP3 at this point. Now please shoot my ideas down with some insight.

I think its less about Deron being available and more the ridiculously lopsided trades that the other teams would never ever agree to.

[Paul1355]

Someone asked Stephen A Smith

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Stephen a Smith responded by saying....

@[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] Knicks must get a 3rd team involved. He's losing his patience with them. [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] via [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

Look I would give Randolph or Gallo for Melo with Curry another decent player and some 2nd round picks....BUT If he is going to honestly become a baby about this and say we are taking too long, then I really don't care where the hell this guy goes.

We don't need guys like this on our team.

Which is the only reason why I could be hesitant with Rudy because of how he is handling his contract situation.

BUT no doubt having Rudy and Melo here would make us have a stellar lineup but most of this game is chemistry followed by confidence and without chemistry, your players lose confidence. And we can't dump everyone for Melo and Rudy.

SO with that in mind, let's just try to get a third team involved. We have to try and trade Wilson Chandler for a 1st round pick and then ship that pick to Portland to get Rudy. With Rudy we atleast can give up Gallo or Randolph and not worry about Melo possibly playing out of position at the 2.

Without Rudy, let's just put a good deal on the table for Melo. One of those "take it or leave it" deals. Gallo or Randolph with Curry, 2014 1st round pick, and two 2nd round picks.