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    I know, by now, we've all heard about Pastor Jones and his Church planning to burn Koran's for Sept 11.

    Just gonna say, this is a pretty big deal, because this is never going away now. If they do this, it will drastically change the world. Especially on the heels of the Imam basically saying there will be repercussions if the Mosque is not built. They are going to proceed with that. Then what's next?

    Babylon the great is on the way out!

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    I think the pastor is a d-bag xenophobe who is obviously condemning an entire religion because of a small minority of radical fruitcakes. It's radical vs. radical at this point and he happens to live in a country that protects his right to be an outlandish ahole.

    P.S. I wonder if he realizes that Christianity has a long history of crazy radicals too. Tim Mcveigh, The Inquisition and the Crusades no more represent Christianity as AL Queda or 911 represents all Muslims.

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    I think it's deeer than that, Tril. This pastor is not alone. I get the feeling people are starting to feel like the radical muslims will turn up here now. And this particular Christian sect is is just acting on what they feel. Others were with thek, just got cold feet. This is not going away.

    Just a reminder: Jehovah's witnesses have been preaching that Babylon the great is indeed the entire entity of false relgion for decades. And that Jehovah will put into the hearts of the world leaders to dispose of it for him (since he says false religion is the cause of all bloodshed)

    Honestly, with the events taking place, who really doubts that the appetite is not already there? Don't be surprised to look up one day and religion be gone.

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    this guy is making a good choice by not having this burning, the reaction it will cause will not be good, there will be violence and it will have not be safe for our troops as people will unfairly take this out on them.

    i would like to say that i am a muslim but im a muslim-egyptian AMERICAN. ive lived here almost all my life and intend to raise a family here. and honestly all these ignorant people saying that islam is the religion of the devil really offend me, the people who caused 9/11 are all going to hell even though they claim to be muslim and pray 5 times a day( as is required of a muslim ) islam does not condemn this violence on innocent people or anytime outside of war, even in war it says do not attack, attack only when you have too if the person isnt trying to harm you you shouldnt harm him.

    but because i love this country that is why i say this so called reverend should not have this quran burning even if he manages to burn all copies we have millions of people who memorized it by heart so they wont be "getting rid" of it. this is a religion people and the constitution defends that freedom of religion. i will be among those outraged if this were to happen but i greatly feel that muslims as a whole are misunderstood they support nothing but violence and any "muslim" who thinks violence or the attakcs of 9/11 to be ok in the eyes of Allah are delusional and dont even know their own religion.

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    First of all, i really don't understand what this guy want to prove with this. That he hates muslims? Fine, go ahead and hate them, but don't pose into the good christian when your whole religion is based on love. It makes no sense.

    Second of all how the hell did this story got so much attention? And why did the media wrote so much about it? Just ignore fools like these, you don't want to give any power to such characters.

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    Aint religion grand? SMH.

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    Originally Posted by Knicks4lyfe
    I know, by now, we've all heard about Pastor Jones and his Church planning to burn Koran's for Sept 11.

    Just gonna say, this is a pretty big deal, because this is never going away now. If they do this, it will drastically change the world. Especially on the heels of the Imam basically saying there will be repercussions if the Mosque is not built. They are going to proceed with that. Then what's next?

    Babylon the great is on the way out!

    Discuss!
    Burning the Koran will spark war.

    Christ would not burn the Koran. It is a book against scripture and it does view Christ as only a prophet and even has mis translations of Christ so as a heathen book about Christ, yes it might anger some Christians.

    But to burn a book is an act of force and war. This is like the Crusades all over again.

    Both sides during the crusades never truly follwoed their written words. They went to war for their own selfish desires.

    This pastor burning a Koran is going about the wrong way.

    We are taught in scriputre to love everyone, even our enemies and if he sees Islam as the enemy then he should preach to them with love. And IF THEY persecute (radical Islam) then you accept it and preach the word through persecution, not fighting back and acting just like them.

    Calvin, Luther, and Augustine did not burn Catholic texts, they just argued against it. The Catholic church essentially murdered all of the reformers they could.

    Christians are not taught to act like this pastor is doing.


    Now building a mosque on the World Trade Center is completely wrong and stupid. There is so many tension amongst the views of Islam from radical Islam that if you honestly build a mosque it is an insult to the people who died on that day.

    This is a PR disaster that can lead to possible revolts.

    This is like blowing up a mosque and building a church right over with everyone in the town still being Muslim, it is forced religion.

    Building a mosque should be stopped at all costs. And this pastor should learn the Word of God instead of doing what he feels is right.

    Too many fools in this world.

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    Originally Posted by Paul1355
    Burning the Koran will spark war.

    Christ would not burn the Koran. It is a book against scripture and it does view Christ as only a prophet and even has mis translations of Christ so as a heathen book about Christ, yes it might anger some Christians.

    But to burn a book is an act of force and war. This is like the Crusades all over again.

    Both sides during the crusades never truly follwoed their written words. They went to war for their own selfish desires.

    This pastor burning a Koran is going about the wrong way.

    We are taught in scriputre to love everyone, even our enemies and if he sees Islam as the enemy then he should preach to them with love. And IF THEY persecute (radical Islam) then you accept it and preach the word through persecution, not fighting back and acting just like them.

    Calvin, Luther, and Augustine did not burn Catholic texts, they just argued against it. The Catholic church essentially murdered all of the reformers they could.

    Christians are not taught to act like this pastor is doing.


    Now building a mosque on the World Trade Center is completely wrong and stupid. There is so many tension amongst the views of Islam from radical Islam that if you honestly build a mosque it is an insult to the people who died on that day.

    This is a PR disaster that can lead to possible revolts.

    This is like blowing up a mosque and building a church right over with everyone in the town still being Muslim, it is forced religion.

    Building a mosque should be stopped at all costs. And this pastor should learn the Word of God instead of doing what he feels is right.

    Too many fools in this world.
    paul i disagree with some of your points especially on building the mosque at the WTC site. cause first of all it just happened to be a couple of blocks away and is in no way related to the attacks on 9/11, and to interfere with ones right to worship is unconstitutional and to stereotype against all muslims just because of some retard( who will burn in hell, for what he's responsible of causing is in no way condemned in islam ). by not letting us build this mosque you pretty much going against the constitution. people need to wake up and smell the coffee if people would read about islam instead of just agreeing with that the media says, then people will see that islam is a religion of peace, and is very anti war. the attackers of 9/11 will burn in hell in the eyes of islam that was wrong and in no why "accepted" in islam

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    Originally Posted by DaTPRiNCE
    paul i disagree with some of your points especially on building the mosque at the WTC site. cause first of all it just happened to be a couple of blocks away and is in no way related to the attacks on 9/11, and to interfere with ones right to worship is unconstitutional and to stereotype against all muslims just because of some retard( who will burn in hell, for what he's responsible of causing is in no way condemned in islam ). by not letting us build this mosque you pretty much going against the constitution. people need to wake up and smell the coffee if people would read about islam instead of just agreeing with that the media says, then people will see that islam is a religion of peace, and is very anti war. the attackers of 9/11 will burn in hell in the eyes of islam that was wrong and in no why "accepted" in islam
    If it is not right on the site, then it doesn't matter but the News has been making out to seem like they are going to put a mosque right were the WTC was at, if this is so then it can't happen. I am not saying it should not happen because radical muslims are sometimes terrorist, I am saying it because it is a disastrous PR move.

    Many people in America are racists towards Muslims because of 9/11 and the event happened in NY so building a mosque on the site is not smart, away from the site is fine.

    I am just saying as a whole, there would be retaliation to this. I wouldn't be the ones yelling but it will look bad and could be worse if it happened.

    And yes both the terrorist and the pastor are prob going to burn in hell.

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    Originally Posted by Paul1355
    If it is not right on the site, then it doesn't matter but the News has been making out to seem like they are going to put a mosque right were the WTC was at, if this is so then it can't happen. I am not saying it should not happen because radical muslims are sometimes terrorist, I am saying it because it is a disastrous PR move.

    Many people in America are racists towards Muslims because of 9/11 and the event happened in NY so building a mosque on the site is not smart, away from the site is fine.

    I am just saying as a whole, there would be retaliation to this. I wouldn't be the ones yelling but it will look bad and could be worse if it happened.

    And yes both the terrorist and the pastor are prob going to burn in hell.

    its 2 blocks away and is unrelated to the WTC, it just so happens to be near the WTC. and if this happens you'll see a lot of people starting to get in-between the building of religious places and such; and for all the wrong reasons. my view is if they passed the legal hurdles there is to buying a building then whos to interfere with what they want to build there? its a freedom of religion thats being exercised.

    and what really aggravates me is that the american public listen to the media and thats it instantly think that islam is all about death and it supports terrorism, and in actuality its the complete opposite. its sad to say that the american public is retarded. ( not saying your one of them paul, just wanted to clarify that loll ) smart people would do their research and read on islam and see its a peaceful religion. people like pastor jones piss me off to an extent where i want to crack them in the face.

    and as far as those terrorists and jones go i agree with you. i hope those terrorists and bi-laden and all his men really burn in hell for eternity simply because of what they've put their muslim brothers and sisters through in the aftermath of it all.

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    Originally Posted by DaTPRiNCE
    its 2 blocks away and is unrelated to the WTC, it just so happens to be near the WTC. and if this happens you'll see a lot of people starting to get in-between the building of religious places and such; and for all the wrong reasons. my view is if they passed the legal hurdles there is to buying a building then whos to interfere with what they want to build there? its a freedom of religion thats being exercised.

    and what really aggravates me is that the american public listen to the media and thats it instantly think that islam is all about death and it supports terrorism, and in actuality its the complete opposite. its sad to say that the american public is retarded. ( not saying your one of them paul, just wanted to clarify that loll ) smart people would do their research and read on islam and see its a peaceful religion. people like pastor jones piss me off to an extent where i want to crack them in the face.

    and as far as those terrorists and jones go i agree with you. i hope those terrorists and bi-laden and all his men really burn in hell for eternity simply because of what they've put their muslim brothers and sisters through in the aftermath of it all.
    I recently heard that the guy in charge of the Mosque shares radical views, if this is so then I would understand all the uproar.

    You don't want a radical teacher implanting that extreme teaching in the heart of NY....

    So these things have to be investigated.

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    Originally Posted by Paul1355
    If it is not right on the site, then it doesn't matter but the News has been making out to seem like they are going to put a mosque right were the WTC was at, if this is so then it can't happen. I am not saying it should not happen because radical muslims are sometimes terrorist, I am saying it because it is a disastrous PR move.

    Many people in America are racists towards Muslims because of 9/11 and the event happened in NY so building a mosque on the site is not smart, away from the site is fine.

    I am just saying as a whole, there would be retaliation to this. I wouldn't be the ones yelling but it will look bad and could be worse if it happened.

    And yes both the terrorist and the pastor are prob going to burn in hell.
    First of all, it's not even a mosque, it's a community center. The community center is over two blocks away from where the WTC stood and over 5 blocks away from where the memorial will be. Noone will even notice it.

    Yes, the news, primarily Fox News, is making it seem as though a mosque is being built at the same location as the WTC. Please, do not watch Fox News. People that use Fox News as their primary source of news are the least informed out of any group. Even people that use The Daily Show as their primary source are more informed. (this is from a poll done by the Wall Street Journal)

    The politicians that spread this misinformation are using the deaths of thousands of people for their own political gain. It should not be a surprise. They've been using it ever since it happened (see Iraq War) and since it is an election year, they are using it again. It's sickening.

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