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    I know, by now, we've all heard about Pastor Jones and his Church planning to burn Koran's for Sept 11.

    Just gonna say, this is a pretty big deal, because this is never going away now. If they do this, it will drastically change the world. Especially on the heels of the Imam basically saying there will be repercussions if the Mosque is not built. They are going to proceed with that. Then what's next?

    Babylon the great is on the way out!

    Discuss!

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    I think the pastor is a d-bag xenophobe who is obviously condemning an entire religion because of a small minority of radical fruitcakes. It's radical vs. radical at this point and he happens to live in a country that protects his right to be an outlandish ahole.

    P.S. I wonder if he realizes that Christianity has a long history of crazy radicals too. Tim Mcveigh, The Inquisition and the Crusades no more represent Christianity as AL Queda or 911 represents all Muslims.

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    I think it's deeer than that, Tril. This pastor is not alone. I get the feeling people are starting to feel like the radical muslims will turn up here now. And this particular Christian sect is is just acting on what they feel. Others were with thek, just got cold feet. This is not going away.

    Just a reminder: Jehovah's witnesses have been preaching that Babylon the great is indeed the entire entity of false relgion for decades. And that Jehovah will put into the hearts of the world leaders to dispose of it for him (since he says false religion is the cause of all bloodshed)

    Honestly, with the events taking place, who really doubts that the appetite is not already there? Don't be surprised to look up one day and religion be gone.

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    this guy is making a good choice by not having this burning, the reaction it will cause will not be good, there will be violence and it will have not be safe for our troops as people will unfairly take this out on them.

    i would like to say that i am a muslim but im a muslim-egyptian AMERICAN. ive lived here almost all my life and intend to raise a family here. and honestly all these ignorant people saying that islam is the religion of the devil really offend me, the people who caused 9/11 are all going to hell even though they claim to be muslim and pray 5 times a day( as is required of a muslim ) islam does not condemn this violence on innocent people or anytime outside of war, even in war it says do not attack, attack only when you have too if the person isnt trying to harm you you shouldnt harm him.

    but because i love this country that is why i say this so called reverend should not have this quran burning even if he manages to burn all copies we have millions of people who memorized it by heart so they wont be "getting rid" of it. this is a religion people and the constitution defends that freedom of religion. i will be among those outraged if this were to happen but i greatly feel that muslims as a whole are misunderstood they support nothing but violence and any "muslim" who thinks violence or the attakcs of 9/11 to be ok in the eyes of Allah are delusional and dont even know their own religion.

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    First of all, i really don't understand what this guy want to prove with this. That he hates muslims? Fine, go ahead and hate them, but don't pose into the good christian when your whole religion is based on love. It makes no sense.

    Second of all how the hell did this story got so much attention? And why did the media wrote so much about it? Just ignore fools like these, you don't want to give any power to such characters.

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    Aint religion grand? SMH.

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    Originally Posted by LJ4ptplay
    Aint religion grand? SMH.
    This whole thing sucks. I'm just glad to know God's people have nothin to do with it.

    That said, these events have done nothing but strengthen my faith in the Bible. If you cannot see that these radicals will force the hand of governments to ban religion, you must have closed ur eyes shut to an eventual reality.

    Jehovah never lies.

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    Originally Posted by Knicks4lyfe
    This whole thing sucks. I'm just glad to know God's people have nothin to do with it.

    That said, these events have done nothing but strengthen my faith in the Bible. If you cannot see that these radicals will force the hand of governments to ban religion, you must have closed ur eyes shut to an eventual reality.

    Jehovah never lies.
    Jehovah can't lie since he has never spoken and does not exist...

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    Originally Posted by TR1LL10N
    Jehovah can't lie since he has never spoken and does not exist...
    He does not speak to those who shut their eyes and ears tightly, and ignore truths in front of them. Sorry if you're one of them.

    But I will ask you this, the same way I asked LJ... When they eventually ban false religion, (coming really soon to your front porch) Will you then admit that there is a Jehovah?

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    Originally Posted by Knicks4lyfe
    He does not speak to those who shut their eyes and ears tightly, and ignore truths in front of them. Sorry if you're one of them.

    But I will ask you this, the same way I asked LJ... When they eventually ban false religion, (coming really soon to your front porch) Will you then admit that there is a Jehovah?
    No, I will admit that our government overstepped it's bounds and needs to be overthrown. While I don't believe in organized religion I do believe you and anyone else should have the right to worship as you you see fit provided that worship does not infringe upon anyone's liberty.

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    Originally Posted by Knicks4lyfe
    He does not speak to those who shut their eyes and ears tightly, and ignore truths in front of them. Sorry if you're one of them.

    But I will ask you this, the same way I asked LJ... When they eventually ban false religion, (coming really soon to your front porch) Will you then admit that there is a Jehovah?
    How about when this doesn't happen (because it won't, not in our lifetimes), will you admit you're wrong?

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    Originally Posted by TR1LL10N
    No, I will admit that our government overstepped it's bounds and needs to be overthrown. While I don't believe in organized religion I do believe you and anyone else should have the right to worship as you you see fit provided that worship does not infringe upon anyone's liberty.
    But see, there in lies the problem. You have shut your senses to being wrong about God. You ask for prophecy, and on of the biggest is the end of false religion, by which the U.N. will finally be given the power it actually thinks it wields already, will put an end to False religion.

    All a reasonable person would have to do is look around. The governments of the world as a whole dislike religion. They DEAL with it, they do not like it. The more guys like Jones pop up, like the Imam who as a waiter 2 years ago, now heading a 10 mil Mosque building project (How??) and start controversies, the more people will protest, which will lead to violence and death. The Gov will see the ban as a relief! The appetite is already there!!

    If it was not such a big deal, would anyone give a damn about Jones?? No! It's a big deal because of what will happen here and around the world.

    Let them build that Mosque and a bomb go off.
    Let this fool burn Qurans with the world waching.

    U will have civil unrest.

    By the way Tril, I have not resonded to your prophecy request cuz im using my cell to post lol. When I get my laptop back. I will address that for ya.

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    Originally Posted by Knicks4lyfe
    I know, by now, we've all heard about Pastor Jones and his Church planning to burn Koran's for Sept 11.

    Just gonna say, this is a pretty big deal, because this is never going away now. If they do this, it will drastically change the world. Especially on the heels of the Imam basically saying there will be repercussions if the Mosque is not built. They are going to proceed with that. Then what's next?

    Babylon the great is on the way out!

    Discuss!
    Burning the Koran will spark war.

    Christ would not burn the Koran. It is a book against scripture and it does view Christ as only a prophet and even has mis translations of Christ so as a heathen book about Christ, yes it might anger some Christians.

    But to burn a book is an act of force and war. This is like the Crusades all over again.

    Both sides during the crusades never truly follwoed their written words. They went to war for their own selfish desires.

    This pastor burning a Koran is going about the wrong way.

    We are taught in scriputre to love everyone, even our enemies and if he sees Islam as the enemy then he should preach to them with love. And IF THEY persecute (radical Islam) then you accept it and preach the word through persecution, not fighting back and acting just like them.

    Calvin, Luther, and Augustine did not burn Catholic texts, they just argued against it. The Catholic church essentially murdered all of the reformers they could.

    Christians are not taught to act like this pastor is doing.


    Now building a mosque on the World Trade Center is completely wrong and stupid. There is so many tension amongst the views of Islam from radical Islam that if you honestly build a mosque it is an insult to the people who died on that day.

    This is a PR disaster that can lead to possible revolts.

    This is like blowing up a mosque and building a church right over with everyone in the town still being Muslim, it is forced religion.

    Building a mosque should be stopped at all costs. And this pastor should learn the Word of God instead of doing what he feels is right.

    Too many fools in this world.

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    Originally Posted by LJ4ptplay
    How about when this doesn't happen (because it won't, not in our lifetimes), will you admit you're wrong?

    You've alread lost. It's already underway. You however won't recognize it til it is fully done. Good thing God warns his people of what to look for.

    Has Sciece warned you?

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    Originally Posted by Knicks4lyfe
    You've alread lost. It's already underway. You however won't recognize it til it is fully done. Good thing God warns his people of what to look for.

    Has Sciece warned you?
    I'll ask again, if it doesn't happen will you admit you were wrong?

    I believe in our last debate, you said the world was definitely going to end within the next 10 years. That was about 9 months ago (I have it marked on my calender and I will remind you every year for the next 10 years).

    So, in 9 years and 3 months, if the world has not ended, will you admit you were wrong?

    It's a simple answer. Yes or No. Not, "it's already happening, etc, etc".

    How much longer do you think before we will ban religion? 5 years?

    If it hasn't happened in that time frame, will you admit you were wrong? Again, it's a simple answer. Yes or No.

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