Results 1 to 9 of 9

Thread: Jump shot styles (training/coaching)

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    Superstar Sage's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Sydney
    Posts
    782
    Rep Power
    7

    Default Jump shot styles (training/coaching)

    I've started coaching and playing again and I wanted to get the forums thoughts on a few things. This is mainly to do with style of jump shots.

    This could end up being a long post so bear with me...


    When I first started playing, you could kind of describe my shooting action as Reggie Miller-esque, kind of two handed cos I always felt my arms were too weak to get the ball to the basket from 3. As I got better, my rep coaches forced me to change my shot to a very orthadox method.

    I've started playing again after about a 6 or 7 year layoff. My outside shot wasn't working like it used to so I decided to change it up. My philosophy now is your shooting action should be so simple that it's very easy to reproduce every time and do the whole "muscle memory" thing.

    I'm also putting emphasys on the upper body, by not jumping whlie practicing my shot, I can focus on making sure the upper body is doing exactly the same thing every time. My thinking being that as long as your upper body is consistant, then even if you're off balance or fading away you should still be putting up a decent shot, no matter what your lower body is doing. -edit- and also when fatigue sets in, your shot should still be consistent if you're not doing a lot.

    Training with my new style is showing some reward, I can hit 3s without leaving the ground easier, and if I decide to take a running jumper, they feel a lot better.


    So I guess my questions are, what do you think about this training method, has anyone had to "re-learn" how to shoot and if so, what did you do? And if you were teaching someone who's new to the game how to shoot, what would you do? Tell them to just shoot how they're comfortable and get used to it, or use a particular method?

  2. #2
    Veteran Paul1355's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    East Coast
    Posts
    5,497
    Rep Power
    14

    Default

    Originally Posted by Sage
    I've started coaching and playing again and I wanted to get the forums thoughts on a few things. This is mainly to do with style of jump shots.

    This could end up being a long post so bear with me...


    When I first started playing, you could kind of describe my shooting action as Reggie Miller-esque, kind of two handed cos I always felt my arms were too weak to get the ball to the basket from 3. As I got better, my rep coaches forced me to change my shot to a very orthadox method.

    I've started playing again after about a 6 or 7 year layoff. My outside shot wasn't working like it used to so I decided to change it up. My philosophy now is your shooting action should be so simple that it's very easy to reproduce every time and do the whole "muscle memory" thing.

    I'm also putting emphasys on the upper body, by not jumping whlie practicing my shot, I can focus on making sure the upper body is doing exactly the same thing every time. My thinking being that as long as your upper body is consistant, then even if you're off balance or fading away you should still be putting up a decent shot, no matter what your lower body is doing. -edit- and also when fatigue sets in, your shot should still be consistent if you're not doing a lot.

    Training with my new style is showing some reward, I can hit 3s without leaving the ground easier, and if I decide to take a running jumper, they feel a lot better.


    So I guess my questions are, what do you think about this training method, has anyone had to "re-learn" how to shoot and if so, what did you do? And if you were teaching someone who's new to the game how to shoot, what would you do? Tell them to just shoot how they're comfortable and get used to it, or use a particular method?
    ive never really been taught how to shoot...i guess i shoot kind of like andy rautins and i developed a mid range jump shot after being a post player my whole life...i have a weak right hand and can't lay up right handed without looking stupid so i play with my left and only use the right hand for cross overs and post moves.
    I recently heard some tips on how to shoot consistently...how to hold your fingers wide etc, i usually forget to snap my wrist.....

    Any tips?

  3. #3
    Superstar Sage's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Sydney
    Posts
    782
    Rep Power
    7

    Default

    Not 100% if there's a prefered method with the fingers, but I keep all the fingers on my shooting hand pretty loose. Keeping my fingers relaxed means there's more surface coverage on the ball. If you were to push off with your fingers you'd probably only have the tips of maybe two fingers on the ball when it's released, which may affect the consistancy.

    But that's just what I do.

  4. #4
    Veteran quiggle's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Posts
    1,246
    Rep Power
    0

    Default

    watch the movie Above the Rim with Leon and Marlon Waynes, he gives him some tips on how to properly release a jumper.

  5. #5
    Veteran Paul1355's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    East Coast
    Posts
    5,497
    Rep Power
    14

    Default

    Originally Posted by quiggle
    watch the movie Above the Rim with Leon and Marlon Waynes, he gives him some tips on how to properly release a jumper.
    i actually used tips from that movie with the finger spacing

  6. #6
    Veteran quiggle's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Posts
    1,246
    Rep Power
    0

    Default

    yeah it still got one of the better songs at the start of a movie imo

    for the peeps who havent heard it before


  7. #7
    Member serendipity10's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    near the lincoln tunnel in Union City, NJ staying close to MSG
    Posts
    449
    Rep Power
    5

    Default

    Originally Posted by Sage
    I've started coaching and playing again and I wanted to get the forums thoughts on a few things. This is mainly to do with style of jump shots.

    This could end up being a long post so bear with me...


    When I first started playing, you could kind of describe my shooting action as Reggie Miller-esque, kind of two handed cos I always felt my arms were too weak to get the ball to the basket from 3. As I got better, my rep coaches forced me to change my shot to a very orthadox method.

    I've started playing again after about a 6 or 7 year layoff. My outside shot wasn't working like it used to so I decided to change it up. My philosophy now is your shooting action should be so simple that it's very easy to reproduce every time and do the whole "muscle memory" thing.

    I'm also putting emphasys on the upper body, by not jumping whlie practicing my shot, I can focus on making sure the upper body is doing exactly the same thing every time. My thinking being that as long as your upper body is consistant, then even if you're off balance or fading away you should still be putting up a decent shot, no matter what your lower body is doing. -edit- and also when fatigue sets in, your shot should still be consistent if you're not doing a lot.

    Training with my new style is showing some reward, I can hit 3s without leaving the ground easier, and if I decide to take a running jumper, they feel a lot better.


    So I guess my questions are, what do you think about this training method, has anyone had to "re-learn" how to shoot and if so, what did you do? And if you were teaching someone who's new to the game how to shoot, what would you do? Tell them to just shoot how they're comfortable and get used to it, or use a particular method?
    To teach someone new to the game, basic step is to have your shooting hand and guide hand (keep elbows high). When shooting the ball the shooting hand must give the ball good rotation for it to have a nice arc and soft touch on the rim. The guide hand just does what it says guide the ball.

    The legs are also important bending your knees and pointing them towards the basket helps develop a jump shot. Your right about the "muscle memory" when someone finds there shot to be consistent you have to find rhythm to the way you shoot. Your legs help you keep rhythm and practicing the shot helps to get better.

    For those that are not new to the game, if you see something wrong with there shot it must be corrected. They might shoot the ball well at times but won't become a great shooter. The release of the ball is also important and should be kept high if not the player will be uncomfortable in front of a defender because he will be blocked. Shooting with two hands - is also unacceptable because it won't have a rotation and won't be easy to guide the ball. Bank shots are also important, helps avoid block shots and develop other shots like: lay ups, post up shots, floater shot, and creating a shot off the dribble.

    Example of a bad shot:
    Rajon Rondo (two hand shot) Joakim Noah
    Shawn Marion (release too low)

    Example of a good shot:
    Danilo Gallinari
    Rashard Lewis
    J.J. Reddick

    side note: I have changed my shot plenty of times and it was always for the best. My shot changed from the way Marion shot to Rashard Lewis, used to get blocked and now make the shot i peoples faces.
    Confidence
    is what you need to coach your players of doing, (half of the game is mental) if you have an open shot, shoot it.

Similar Threads

  1. Every draft prospect who is IN and OUT
    By Paul1355 in forum NY Knicks
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: Apr 23, 2010, 20:28
  2. I Know It's Early-But Who Should We Draft?
    By DaTPRiNCE in forum NY Knicks
    Replies: 417
    Last Post: Dec 04, 2009, 16:37
  3. Bronx man shot by cops.
    By metrocard in forum Hangout
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: Dec 16, 2008, 01:15
  4. Isn't funny how...
    By metrocard in forum NY Knicks
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: Nov 22, 2008, 17:05
  5. A realistic discussion on the Knicks.
    By metrocard in forum NY Knicks
    Replies: 37
    Last Post: Apr 16, 2007, 17:44

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •