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    Originally Posted by abcd
    Good thread, but D'Antoni exposed himself as a fraud the minute he took the job as head coach of the Knicks.

    It was obvious that the only reason he wanted to coach the Knicks was for the huge 24 million dollar contract Dolan gave him.

    The Knicks keep signing big name players, coaches, and GMs, instead of building a team through the draft and free agency, keeping our best players, and hiring people who stress defense. Ex: Patrick Ewing, Avery Johnson, Scott Skiles, etc.

    Walsh is not even a general manager. He's a computer. Whatever D'Antoni tells him to do, he does.

    The Knicks had a chance to get Brook Lopez or Roy Hibbert, and they got Danila Ballerina.

    D'Antoni wanted Chris Duhon over Andre Miller, Stephon Marbury, and Nate Robinson.

    The Knicks had a chance to get Brandon Jennings, and they got Jordan Hill.

    The Knicks traded Jamal Crawford for a small forward, during a time when the Knicks had 5 small forwards.

    Zach Randolph got traded for Tim Thomas and Cuttino Mobley's 17 million dollar retirement plan.

    Jordan Hill and 2 first round picks were traded for a broken down Tracy McGrady.

    The Knicks organization had 3 chances to hire Ewing as an assistant, and they refused.

    The Knicks organization had 2 chances to sign Patrick Ewing Jr., and they played him for Anthony Roberson, Andy Rautins, and Shawne Williams.

    D'Antoni and Walsh are both frauds. Me and some other posters on here called it from day 1.

    And after the Knicks fail to make the playoffs for the 7th straight season, even the blindest D'Antoni supporters will stop believing in his b.s.
    Scathing and true: we need some leadership that love the Knicks as much as the people that support the team do. Knicks' current management has utterly failed at honoring the team's history.

    We also need management that realizes Knick fans are willing to wait for our team to improve, as long as intelligent actions are guiding the process. This has not been the case. Since Ewing's departure, they're always trying to hit a home run, instead of working carefully to improve the team, as ABCD said, through the draft and the building up of every position, especially center.

    Kudos on mentioning Brook Lopez, too.
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    The MD haterz get a chance to spew their venom. Great job mafra. I've not seen more inane posts in one thread since I've been a member @ ko.com.

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    Basically what ABCD said...and thats all that needs to be said in this thread

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    Originally Posted by abcd
    Good thread, but D'Antoni exposed himself as a fraud the minute he took the job as head coach of the Knicks.

    It was obvious that the only reason he wanted to coach the Knicks was for the huge 24 million dollar contract Dolan gave him.

    The Knicks keep signing big name players, coaches, and GMs, instead of building a team through the draft and free agency, keeping our best players, and hiring people who stress defense. Ex: Patrick Ewing, Avery Johnson, Scott Skiles, etc.

    Walsh is not even a general manager. He's a computer. Whatever D'Antoni tells him to do, he does.

    The Knicks had a chance to get Brook Lopez or Roy Hibbert, and they got Danila Ballerina.

    D'Antoni wanted Chris Duhon over Andre Miller, Stephon Marbury, and Nate Robinson.

    The Knicks had a chance to get Brandon Jennings, and they got Jordan Hill.

    The Knicks traded Jamal Crawford for a small forward, during a time when the Knicks had 5 small forwards.

    Zach Randolph got traded for Tim Thomas and Cuttino Mobley's 17 million dollar retirement plan.

    Jordan Hill and 2 first round picks were traded for a broken down Tracy McGrady.

    The Knicks organization had 3 chances to hire Ewing as an assistant, and they refused.

    The Knicks organization had 2 chances to sign Patrick Ewing Jr., and they played him for Anthony Roberson, Andy Rautins, and Shawne Williams.

    D'Antoni and Walsh are both frauds. Me and some other posters on here called it from day 1.

    .

    No offense but there is so much wrong I do not know where to begin.

    Ok, How did Dantoni choose Duhon over Andre Miller when in fact they went after Andre Miller really hard (as well as Jason Kidd that summer) to upgrade the Point Guard position and Miller signed elswhere for more money?

    Lets see both the Zach Randolph deal and Crawford deals were done for finacial reasons not because of a talent swap, so basically we traded Crawford and Randolph for Amare Stoudamire,Raymond Felton,d and Mozgov if you look at what it ultimatley amounted to....plus lets not forget GM's make trades not coaches!

    Patrick Ewing Sr. is a Knick legend, but why does everyone think that will translate into a great coach for us? The Celtics never hired Larry Bird as coach and he was an NBA coach of the year!

    Patrick Ewing Jr. got cut because he was not the best man for the job!!!! if he had made the team everyone would be crying about his lack of PT, if Pat Ewing Jr. is worth making a roster then why since 98 has he not even been called to anyone's camp besides NY? Its out of respect that he gets that chance every Summer League and Pre Season....after all has The Orlando Magic invited him to camp yet?


    Now as much as I hate the hate Dantoni gets I can accept it, but what has Walsh done to warrant being called a "fraud"


    oh and Please stop complaining about Danillo getting picked over Lopez, lets remember
    1. Brook Lopez had not worked out for any team besides the top 3 picking that year in the draft
    2. The Nets had given Gallo a guarentee that they would draft him if he was available, and had he been there Lopez wouldve fell another spot
    3. we are not the only team that passed on Lopez, Joe Alexander was a far worst pick over Lopez than Gallo was!
    4.Lastly The NBA draft is not an exact science! Bucks draft the biggest bust of the draft one year and the very next year those same scouts pick up a steal!

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    I'm sorry but D'antoni has to go, this is bull**** basketball that I'm seeing so far. Why the hell is everybody shooting 3's like nuts and why is Amare thinking he is a young Tracy McGrady over dribbling and playing so selfish so far. Does this team even practices, I see a detached bunch just shooting and praying the ball goes in. This is not nba basketball, I just feel bad for people paying so much money to see this crap.

    Trade Gallinari, Randolph, Chandler, Douglas, 2014 1st Round Pick for Carmelo asap.

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    D'antoni gets this whole year. At the end of the season we'll know whether hes going to coach this game. 3 games determine nothing folks.

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    "And after the Knicks fail to make the playoffs for the 7th straight season, even the blindest D'Antoni supporters will stop believing in his b.s." - abcd

    I will agree to let the world know d'ant is a fraud if we don't make the playoffs.... if you agree to see the light when we do make the playoffs.

    I mean, it's gotta go both ways right? It has to be playoffs or bust this year, no more bull****, no more chasing free agents in a trashed season, no more excuses for losses. This team needs to be held accountable starting with the head coach. If we don't win this year, we can't look at our roster and say, "These are scrubs" because these players are good enough to play with any team.


    So far this season, has D'antoni been a fraud?

    Lets see: The knicks won their first game together in T.O. can't complain about that one!

    Then they play a superb game against one of the leagues top 4 teams in Boston and almost take it.

    Then they lose a disappointing but fairly close home opener against Portland, where one of our better players was held out of the game.

    We competed in every game (two of them against playoff bound teams), played sound basketball, had good team defense, and guess what guys? It's their FIRST 3 GAMES TOGETHER. you can't have a feel for your teammates and their strengths and weaknesses yet. Even knowing when and who to kick it out to has been an issue. You can't just kick it out to Wilson at the 3 pt line, but no one really knows that yet cause aside from gallo, no one has played with the kid!

    And despite all of this, our team is competing with the top teams in the league and you guys think it's a fraud? i'll admit i'm tired of seeing chucking in transition. If you are on the fast break you should be driving for the basket unless you are absolutely open and a knock down 3 pt shooter. But I see that as a player problem more then a coaching problem, our guys just need to get fired up.

    I think Kiya said it already, we need a break out game against a good team like the bulls or orlando and you will see this team build on that. I still think we will pull out a 9-6 or 8-7 record on the first 15 games, and i'll be very pleased with that.

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    the club had a chance to sign Mark Jackson as coach but opted for indigestion instead.

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    Originally Posted by abcd
    Good thread, but D'Antoni exposed himself as a fraud the minute he took the job as head coach of the Knicks.

    It was obvious that the only reason he wanted to coach the Knicks was for the huge 24 million dollar contract Dolan gave him.

    The Knicks keep signing big name players, coaches, and GMs, instead of building a team through the draft and free agency, keeping our best players, and hiring people who stress defense. Ex: Patrick Ewing, Avery Johnson, Scott Skiles, etc.

    Walsh is not even a general manager. He's a computer. Whatever D'Antoni tells him to do, he does.

    The Knicks had a chance to get Brook Lopez or Roy Hibbert, and they got Danila Ballerina.

    D'Antoni wanted Chris Duhon over Andre Miller, Stephon Marbury, and Nate Robinson.

    The Knicks had a chance to get Brandon Jennings, and they got Jordan Hill.

    The Knicks traded Jamal Crawford for a small forward, during a time when the Knicks had 5 small forwards.

    Zach Randolph got traded for Tim Thomas and Cuttino Mobley's 17 million dollar retirement plan.

    Jordan Hill and 2 first round picks were traded for a broken down Tracy McGrady.

    The Knicks organization had 3 chances to hire Ewing as an assistant, and they refused.

    The Knicks organization had 2 chances to sign Patrick Ewing Jr., and they played him for Anthony Roberson, Andy Rautins, and Shawne Williams.

    D'Antoni and Walsh are both frauds. Me and some other posters on here called it from day 1.

    And after the Knicks fail to make the playoffs for the 7th straight season, even the blindest D'Antoni supporters will stop believing in his b.s.
    First of all; really... Walsh is a fraud??? Did he trade all those horrible contracts (except Currys')??? I mean Walsh's brilliance was apparent based on those moves alone! Next, this is a team that had how long to practice together??? Both loses were to Boston and Portland; 2 teams that have the core players playing together for years (with the addidtion of a few new players). The Knicks are what, 85% new?????? They will need time to get used to eachother, while most learn a new system at the same time. I thought they looked their best against Boston and Portland (both loses) as far as how good they can be on D. Yes, they had lapses but for the most part they looked like they could be tough on D. This forum is funny, so many people faught to keep Isiah around even when he was thrusting this franchise into a fiscal winter and yet we are screaming for Mike D's and Walshes job for the past 2 years......

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    Since I’ve been here I pointed out Antonio’s weaknesses. He is a wack coach; He tries to force people to play his way…even if the player is not meant to play the position. His whole game revolves around shooting too many jump shots. Stat is more affective around the basket, not the 3 point line. Wilson <ST1is a starter…why is he coming off of the bench behind Gallo...just to lead the team in scoring? Why the **** is Gallo still starting??!! He has always been crappy, atleast I'm glad others are starting to wake up. We should keep douglas,wilson,walker,stat,fields,felton,triaf,moz and g</ST1et rid of the rest for Mello and maybe a rebounding role player. We will not go far with this team, especially when they’re playing the way the coach is playing them. As long as Gallo is on the team it will not be ran fairly. He should not be here!!!!

    I said many times before and I will keep saying it. The coach will F-up this team by taking players out of their natural talented, most affective positions just so his scub ass god son will have a chance to play. I don’t know why some of the people on this site want this dumb ass coach to mess up the season and team by keeping Gallo…even more so...as a starter with so many minutes. C’mon man, it doesn’t take a genius to see how his flawed game plan, weak defensive plays and favoritism for Gallo is hurting the Knicks. I sure hope Dolan steps in and can this guy before it’s too late. They should have traded Gallo before the season before his true colors started to show (as I said on numerous occasions) …now look at what’s happening…he is ****ing up our trade potential even more with his D-League caliber game. I'm praying we don’t get stuck with this garbage.
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    The Real fans need to start booing Gallo and the coach…I think I might just start that at the Garden the next time I go. I’m sure others there will do the same once someone starts it off. It won’t be the first time I/we had the Garden chanting unpleasantries...we need to nip this in the bud now. I know its only 3 games in...but this has been going on since pre-season, and IMHO, professional Ballers using this as an excuse is pretty lame.
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    So.

    D'ant is crucified for being a stagnant coach set in hia ways, who can never produce a team that shows good D.

    Yet this season clearly shows otherwise, as mentioned in this article.

    The article also highlights, before going into it's shpiel, that our two worst offensive categories, which are total killers (fg%, 3pt%), are the two areas that WILL improve considerably.

    And yet, we were brutally in the mix against a maybe-great Boston team, and a good POR team, the latter of which we most clearly lost because of (see: above numbers), atrocious bricks of free throws, not to mention some unfortunate calls by the ref.

    And no one else on GSW would have made sense, except for Ellis, who would have locked us down financially. And really, made us a fun, for sure playoff team, but a middling one stuck for a long time.

    So basically if our team hit free throws at something above a sub-humanoid rate we take POR and who knows, maybe the Celtics. Not to mention if Douglas and Gallo weren't bricking so hard below their norm from the 3.

    AR has been out, Azzy hasn't gotten back yet, Gallo is having a train wreck 3 games, STAT has been good not great, and our team is bricking ft's and 3's at an absurd, below-norm rate.

    And we are 1-2 after hotly contested games vs Celtics and POR, the latter of which we crystal-clear gave away from pitiful free throw bricks and some dubious penalties.

    That **** will change itself over the course of games.

    If we are 2-1, or 3-0, because players hit their freebies at a nice rate, is this article/thread still going down?

    O. And people always said D'ant would rape rookies from making impacts. Moz, and FIELDS entirely disproved that.

    And we hears that he had no idea how to play Chandler to be able to make an impact. Oops. Or is even Chandler's SUCCESSS --now-- in spite of D'ant...

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    as a very forgiving society, it's time to bring back Isiah to run the operations and possibly coach again. let the past be and work with what's ahead.

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    Originally Posted by ronoranina
    The MD haterz get a chance to spew their venom. Great job mafra. I've not seen more inane posts in one thread since I've been a member @ ko.com.
    x100. And also to the post simply stating the obvious that it's 3 games on which this judgment is being based. Which is clearly disproved and proved to be inane.

    It's not like you see anyone go out of their way to start up spin sessions to defend MD, or pump him up, as some savior and perfect coach.

    But the opposite happens all the time. And then the holes get poked through the arguments that try to make sweeping assertions proving his abject failure, with the conviction of some holy scripture.

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    Haha, Some people just can't handle the truth, even if it jumps up and slaps the **** out of them time and time again...

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    Originally Posted by Real NY Baller
    Haha, Some people just can't handle the truth, even if it jumps up and slaps the **** out of them time and time again...
    Who has D'ant been hurting with his "horrible" handling of players and their positions? Your boy Chandler? Having a breakout season...

    Douglas?

    You just mention Gallo over n over, re:d'ant. Which is usually pretty accurate in itself. But it has little **** to do with d'ant.

    What do you want him to do? Release him? Superglue his ass to the bench? Completely rape his value?

    He's been shopped to be traded...relax. Just worry about him sorting out game. If that means he is "just" what he was last year. Fine. He was pretty sweet last yr for a 22yr old playing in his first legit season.

    This is Gallo talk. The D'ant talk about these 3 games proving him a fraud and failure has already been cut through and exposed.

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