Stat Is A Fraud

Is Felton the worse starting PG?

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KBlack25

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Amar'e only plays defense in a year in which he's motivated to get a max contract.It isn't a guarentee that if Phil Jackson or another coach that emphasizes defense would replace D'antoni, it would influence Amar'e to be a good defensive player.At least Al Harrington doesn't need a max contract in order to put effort on the defensive end.

So because Al Harrington had one good series against one player one time he's a better defensive guy than Amare Stoudemire despite showing little to no intent, effort or skill on the defensive end at any other point in his career?

Al Harrington doesn't need a contract year to play defense - he won't do it at ALL in a contract year (see: his last year as a Knick).

Edit: I'm just trying to clarify your argument: are you saying Al Harrington is a better defensive player than Amare all other things (including the coach) being equal, or that the coach is the issue causing the defensive lapses?
 
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knicksin60

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So because Al Harrington had one good series against one player one time he's a better defensive guy than Amare Stoudemire despite showing little to no intent, effort or skill on the defensive end at any other point in his career?

Edit: I'm just trying to clarify your argument: are you saying Al Harrington is a better defensive player than Amare all other things (including the coach) being equal, or that the coach is the issue causing the defensive lapses?

Amar'e possesses the talent and skills to be a better defensive player than Al Harrington but I just don't believe that he will ever have the motivation to.Whatever chances he had at developing into a good defensive player have been lost due to him having D'antoni as his coach throughout most of his NBA career.
 

KBlack25

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Amar'e possesses the talent and skills to be a better defensive player than Al Harrington but I just don't believe that he will ever have the motivation to.Whatever chances he had at developing into a good defensive player have been lost due to him having D'antoni as his coach throughout most of his NBA career.

And all of Al's has been lost by being bad at playing basketball for all of his career.
 

KBlack25

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The Bad Boy Pistons wouldn't be motivated to play defense under Mike D'antoni even if all of them were going to receive max contract for doing so.

Okay...so again the issue is the coach, not the player. And I'm taking the more athletic player all other things being equal.
 

knicksin60

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Okay...so again the issue is the coach, not the player. And I'm taking the more athletic player all other things being equal.

Amar'e was motivated to play defense in his last year in Phoenix because he knew that if he tried his best that would guarentee him a max contract.Al Harrington was motivated to play defense in the'07 playoffs because he wanted to help his team win.Who would you rather have on your team, a player that gets motivated because he wants to have more millions and guarenteed years on his contract or a player that actually gets motivated because he wants to win?
 
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KBlack25

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Amar'e was motivated to play defense in his last year in Phoenix because he knew that if he tried his best that would guarentee him a max contract.Al Harrington was motivated to play defense in the'07 playoffs because he wanted to help his team win.Who would you rather have on your team, a player that gets motivated because he wants to have more millions and guarenteed years on his contract or a player that actually gets motivated because he wants to win?

Okay...so because he had one good playoff series in his life against one player he is a good/motivated defender? If that were true he would have played defense as a Knick, but he didn't - he wouldn't need the coach to motivate him b/c he "cared about winning". It's not like that Warriors squad had a defensive state of mind - the coach there was equally as out of touch with defense as MDA is. So what happened in his stint in NY? Basically the coach had the same strategy/motivation in both situations: offense. But he played defense in one series, so we should throw out the 150 games or whatever it was with the Knicks where he didn't - under similar coaching philosophies?

This is a circular argument and circular (bad) logic you have going on...You say Al is more motivated on defense - I point out he didn't seem motivated as a Knick - you retort with that being the coach's fault - I say that, under that logic, all things being equal (the coach remaining the same) wouldn't we rather the more athletic player - you say Al is more motivated on defense - I point out he didn't seem motivated as a Knick - you retort with that being the coach's fault - I say that, under that logic, all things being equal (the coach remaining the same) wouldn't we rather the more athletic player - etc. You just keep changing the logic to your argument - is it the player or is it the coach, in your opinion. Pick one and stick with it.
 
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Amar'e is such a ****ing fraud, I'm sick and tired of him in a Knicks uniform, this mother****er is not fit to wear the same jersey Willis, LJ and Clyde wore!

**** him!

All this forgazi shit by him off the court too...smh
 

quiggle

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not to sound bush league but if some of you can remember it was because of Reniassance Man that we did not re-sign Tracy McGrady who by the way is having a fantastic season so far
 

KingCharles34

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Trade Atari Stouderetire

The threadstarter is a Knicks prophet


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KingCharles34

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Yea i need to be careful before i become the next quiggle. But if Stat would just go half as hard as im going, maybe he'd be worth more of that 100 milli
 

RunningJumper

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Yea i need to be careful before i become the next quiggle. But if Stat would just go half as hard as im going, maybe he'd be worth more of that 100 milli
quiggle is part troll/part truth. You're being real. Actually, after typing "hard", I think I thought of Amar'e needing to go hard. Either I thought that, or I only thought about putting (no homo) after that.
 

iSaYughh

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KFan92 has waffled on more players than a bisexual at an orgy, even when it came to STAT I think...so I can't give him too much credit, though he did stick to sticking it to STAT, even when a lot of KO was verbally raping him over it.

We knew STATisticals was getting out rebounded by small, white, poor defensive point guards...even during his best of times....when we signed the man.

I blame the shamed departure of Starbury, and peeps' ravenous desire to refill NYK swag, for Fraudemire seducing so much of KO when we signed him that off season.

Anytime someone pointed out why Bosh -- or Lee -- was better than STATisticals, the gushing of this man's never-ending "swag" and how he would bring the NYK back spewed; the man talked the game of a thousand Spreewells and Oakleys, and deluded so many with his mouth and false swag, not unlike a false prophet, despite the realities of his game.

The sad, sad fact is that even if he gets his game back to it's prime of last year, his defense is going to be softer than a vagina, gets penetrated like a pornstar, and he has the uninsured knees, age, and contract where literally....if we asked GSW to do a straight up trade, they'd laugh and hang up.

His offensive game needs to be where it was before his injuries -- where he was legit a Laweyerence Taylor like phenomena on the league -- to make up for the other parts of his game. And for that, a quality PG is essential.

Wise old man Walsh knew that we couldn't chip it up with a gutted team, despite adding Melo and a FA to STAT. Which is why he was so infuriated that Dolan meddled in our Melo deal, it ultimately led to his resignation and premature departure from our franchise.

When we whiffed on Lebron and Wade (and yes, Bosh, too), the plan wasn't to keep up the dogged pursuit of max FA's at the expense of a rounded, complete team.
 

KingCharles34

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Judging by what we saw in that espn magazine with the naked athletes, it doesnt look like Stats gonna be going hard anytime soon no homo. I go harder then Amare. Ask KnicksChick :thumbsup:
 

KingCharles34

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KFan92 has waffled on more players than a bisexual at an orgy, even when it came to STAT I think...so I can't give him too much credit, though he did stick to sticking it to STAT, even when a lot of KO was verbally raping him over it.

We knew STATisticals was getting out rebounded by small, white, poor defensive point guards...even during his best of times....when we signed the man.

I blame the shamed departure of Starbury, and peeps' ravenous desire to refill NYK swag, for Fraudemire seducing so much of KO when we signed him that off season.

Anytime someone pointed out why Bosh -- or Lee -- was better than STATisticals, the gushing of this man's never-ending "swag" and how he would bring the NYK back spewed; the man talked the game of a thousand Spreewells and Oakleys, and deluded so many with his mouth and false swag, not unlike a false prophet, despite the realities of his game.

The sad, sad fact is that even if he gets his game back to it's prime of last year, his defense is going to be softer than a vagina, gets penetrated like a pornstar, and he has the uninsured knees, age, and contract where literally....if we asked GSW to do a straight up trade, they'd laugh and hang up.

His offensive game needs to be where it was before his injuries -- where he was legit a Laweyerence Taylor like phenomena on the league -- to make up for the other parts of his game. And for that, a quality PG is essential.

Wise old man Walsh knew that we couldn't chip it up with a gutted team, despite adding Melo and a FA to STAT. Which is why he was so infuriated that Dolan meddled in our Melo deal, it ultimately led to his resignation and premature departure from our franchise.

When we whiffed on Lebron and Wade (and yes, Bosh, too), the plan wasn't to keep up the dogged pursuit of max FA's at the expense of a rounded, complete team.

lol, funny post but real talk...i agree about Walsh. He felt disrespected and rightfully so. Hows he supposed to do his job with Dolan interfering? And if the team loses, we all know who still gets the blame. Walsh, given his reputation and experience, should not have had to deal with that bullshit. I wish him the best in the very few years or possibly months he has left. If Dolan was trying to show respect he came up shorter then Walsh's life expectancy.
 
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