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    Amare has physical limitations that limits his post game. He lacks good center of gravity. The guy is very top heavy so it is hard for him to back some of the bigger guys down. This also has contributed to his knee injuries since his lower body has trouble handling the abuse his upper body puts on it. This isn't something that can be physically corrected, it is just they way he is built.

    Even Clyde has pointed this out numerous times during the pre-season.

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    Originally Posted by ronoranina
    if you read my post you wouldn't say all I touched on was the p & r w felton and amare.
    I didn't say that. And you didn't answer my question.

    In our wins against Chicago and Washington, what were the keys to victory? If you watched the games, you'll know.

    Seriously. I get the whole time and gelling hoopla. I do. But what about the stand out lack of clarity in strategies we've seen in every game, except for the +40% 3P% games? There are parrots that can tell you 3 is more than 2.

    ronoranina;142066listen, when i say the offense is proven what i'm referring to is those years in phoenix when him and nash had it running on all cylinders for 5 or 6 seasons. when he had players that could shoot consistently and a point guard that could pass and run the pick and roll uber effectively.
    NY - no Nash. No Nash in NY. Phoenix Nash. Nash plays in Phoenix. That was a stacked team of veterans, a young stud and an MVP. Peter Griffin would be successful with that crew. You're misguiding yourself with your own references. Phoenix comparisons mean literally nothing in NY in 2010. Nothing. The fact that NY are enquiring about Nash's availability is enough to ensure me that Mike is lost without him. That, and the last 2 seasons, as complete a bumbling debacle as I've ever seen, are no longer an excuse for sub par leadership.

    Courtesy of CoolClyde.

    "Biggest weakness: Stubborness can often alienate, confuse complimentary players" Is the man stuck in a mode? You referred to the ingredients in a cake, yes? MD is a selective eater. Like a panda or koala. One way, one ingredient and nothing more. Adjusting,, apparently is not an option.

    on the other areas of suckiness w regards to our O, i just don't think these guys grasp well enough how to run it. i was watching phoenix play the lakers last night after the knick game (yes i watched the whole game, lol), and those players on phoenix run that shat crisp bro. not just nash either. they all know what they're doing in that O. THEY ACTUALLY DO THE SHAT YOU HERE MIKE D PREACHING OVER & OVER IN THE POST-GAME INTERVIEWS. they move the ball. when they have a shot they take it. they don't hesitate!! and they have guys that are knockdown shooters who hit consistently! they actually get the ball up quickly like WE should, granted nash has alot to do w that. but i've seen too many times where we take forever just to get the inbounds pass in to felt. ridiculous. this offense is designed to run a certain way and our team just doesn't do it right yet!!
    What's not to grasp? Mike's mantra has, thus far, been based around shooting threes, cutting and the P&R. Comparatively, no post up plays for STAT, no isolations for Wilson to do what he does best, not a single P&R play for the Gov who sets great picks and rolls exceptionally well, no baseline screens for a 10-12 foot catch and shoot jumper/ the absence of a mid range game in any way, shape or form.. That, and less than a dozen picks have been set for Chandler. If I could be bothered, I'd go on. In fact, I think I will.

    "D'Antoni is not perfect -- he stubbornly relies on a short rotation despite playing at a breathneck pace - but he's a brilliant offensive mind that understands the key to a good offense in this league is eschewing the mid-range jump shot."

    Shunning the mid range game doesn't bring success!!!! That poop's so rotten it's steaming! Let's look at some of the decade's championship teams and their mid range contributors.

    Detroit - Hamilton, Billups
    LA - Kobe, Gasol
    SA - Parker, Duncan
    Boston - Pierce, Garnett

    Any familiarity amongst that list of names?

    Chandler, Felton, Douglas, Gallo and, with time, Randolph are all highly capable mid range converters. Chandler especially has a crisp baseline 15-20 footer. Gallo can drop them from anywhere. What form of deluded mind shuns an entire facet of offense and is considered an offensive genius?

    You can't possibly agree with that sentiment? I can't see how anyone could.

    In fact, I dedicated an entire thread to our success depending on spreading the floor with shots inside the 20 foot semi circle. Here it is. Please, check it out it'll save me the effort of typing more.[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

    As I mentioned previously, I question whether or not you've watched any games? Because if you have, you would have seen Chandler's capabilities in full array during the pre-season and in our opening 3 games as a spot shooting/slashing threat. What happened to that? I'll ****ing tell you what happened.....It's more of Mike's unyielding, fractious 'my way' mindset.

    what i do know is that coach basicly brought this O and nash into prominence.. has he lost it suddenly??
    No, not suddenly, not recently, but it did happen all of a sudden. On the day Shaquille O'Neal referred to himself as the Big Cactus. Shaq threw a spanner in Mike's fanny and now we have a team that isn't based on a one track MO as well.

    the fundamental thing i want to get across here is my philosophy on the impact having good players has. right now we have stat and a bunch of role-players that have no battle-tested chemistry together to speak of. this is not enough obviously to even overcome really bad teams right now. time is the answer. as much as you and so many others here don't want to hear it, it's about getting time on the court together. it's also about guys like chandler and gallo getting better as players and more and more competent players in this system. the better and more effective our players get within the ssol the better we will be w time.
    Again. Have you been watching the games!? Have you seen the team crumble? Have you watched the 'SSOL' (which spells LOSS backwards) hand momentum to the other team? Our excellent first quarters (bar Philly)? Our players look they've had plenty of time on the court together. They're just not being coached to epitomise their strengths individually or as a unit/units.

    There has been no encouragement from Mike, from what I've seen, in crucial stages of the 3rd and 4th quarters, to use the clock, draw fouls or set drawn out plays based around interior to perimeter passing to lull the defence in to mistakes as leads dwindle..... The green light is killing us. Again, where is the mid range threat? 3, 3, 3, 3, 3. Can't not mention missed layups though.

    "D'Antoni preaches a low foul rate, sometimes at the expense of preventing points."

    What sort of philosophical crud is that?


    one last thing, good coaching is not about what you do when your under-gunned, which we still are at this point. that's a common misconception around these boards. good coaching shows and is about having what you need to win and then making the moves necessary in training camp, walk-throughs, film sessions, and during in-game management to get your team to the best possible result.
    Thank you for making my own last point resoundingly clear in your own post! We have what we need to win on the roster. That's the most overt point I could possibly make. Getting your team to the best possible result requires an in depth perception of the players we have VS the motto Dantoni's created. Well, he didn't even create it! 'My way or the highway' is older than Donnie Walsh.

    So yet again, I'll make my point, my perception, the premise of my disdain, whatever you want to call it, clear once again:

    MD's ways are set in adamant and none shall suffice without doing so on the onus of his tenure in Phoenix.

    He's fixated on past success, as the coach of a team locked in a tumultuous present. So with the past and present covered, the future is looking bleak with MD pressing the wrong buttons on a time worn modus operandi that depends on such focal components.

    ie: Steve Nash

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    Might I add that I don't like replying to humongous replies. So boring. As point form as possible please. That's the first post I've made that needed proof reading.

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    crazy 8s >>> rono pusiaf

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    Yah i don't know why you are sucking a coach....unless he is your family.

    I will say this, D'Antoni has proven his system can work with a certain group of players....HOWEVER We don't have those players so why continue to employ him?!??! The results are there. Unfortunately no player will ever stand up to D'Antoni cuz they love him, he gives them career numbers and gets them bigger salaries, so that is why Walsh must make the move....

    I don't see our squad as overly talented, however given our athleticism we could probably be a very decent team with a defensive minded coach.

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    O'antoni is nothing. i mean nothing without nash....

    Nash ran that team.. gave O'antoni his coaching career..

    i always go back to an Nash interview when he call O'antoni 7 seconds or less offense a "MYTH"

    the key is he has no half court plays.. or at least plays that work.

    if he thinks he just gonna dump it inot STAT and kick it out for a jumper.. he's insane.. dont like it..

    i could probably name 20 coaches better than he is.

    its so sad. isaih would be a better coach for this team...thats bad.

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    You have zero experience coaching basketball, so I'll take D'Antoni's moves over your non credible ass. Even if it fails, you're not qualified to speak on basketball decisions. So stop pretending like you are. Fool.

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    Originally Posted by CoolClyde
    crazy 8s >>> rono pusiaf
    oh because you agree. dick ridin ignoramoid..

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    Ive thought about this and im not sure if its true but a strong case can be made that Steve Nash made Dantoni's system work not the other way around as its often seen. Nash is still doing his thing in Phoenix without Dantoni and without STAT. Im sure the system had something to do with Nash winning 2 MVPs but I find it hard to believe that he's the only one who can run this system effectively.

    Felton is a talented player but for some reason he hasnt figured it out yet. I think that reason is that Nash made Dantoni look like a genius not the other way around.

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    Originally Posted by metrocard
    You have zero experience coaching basketball, so I'll take D'Antoni's moves over your non credible ass. Even if it fails, you're not qualified to speak on basketball decisions. So stop pretending like you are. Fool.
    You know, I bet you've never even played basketball. Have you? You're too small and too arrogant to be shown up. No doubt you lack the coordination to play a little man's role, so you played baseball or something the likes of that.

    Am I right?

    You've never had any credibility. You're just not clever enough. Small man, small brain, smaller chance.

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    Originally Posted by Crazy8s
    I didn't say that. And you didn't answer my question.

    In our wins against Chicago and Washington, what were the keys to victory? If you watched the games, you'll know.

    Seriously. I get the whole time and gelling hoopla. I do. But what about the stand out lack of clarity in strategies we've seen in every game, except for the +40% 3P% games? There are parrots that can tell you 3 is more than 2.



    NY - no Nash. No Nash in NY. Phoenix Nash. Nash plays in Phoenix. That was a stacked team of veterans, a young stud and an MVP. Peter Griffin would be successful with that crew. You're misguiding yourself with your own references. Phoenix comparisons mean literally nothing in NY in 2010. Nothing. The fact that NY are enquiring about Nash's availability is enough to ensure me that Mike is lost without him. That, and the last 2 seasons, as complete a bumbling debacle as I've ever seen, are no longer an excuse for sub par leadership.

    Courtesy of CoolClyde.

    "Biggest weakness: Stubborness can often alienate, confuse complimentary players" Is the man stuck in a mode? You referred to the ingredients in a cake, yes? MD is a selective eater. Like a panda or koala. One way, one ingredient and nothing more. Adjusting,, apparently is not an option.



    What's not to grasp? Mike's mantra has, thus far, been based around shooting threes, cutting and the P&R. Comparatively, no post up plays for STAT, no isolations for Wilson to do what he does best, not a single P&R play for the Gov who sets great picks and rolls exceptionally well, no baseline screens for a 10-12 foot catch and shoot jumper/ the absence of a mid range game in any way, shape or form.. That, and less than a dozen picks have been set for Chandler. If I could be bothered, I'd go on. In fact, I think I will.

    "D'Antoni is not perfect -- he stubbornly relies on a short rotation despite playing at a breathneck pace - but he's a brilliant offensive mind that understands the key to a good offense in this league is eschewing the mid-range jump shot."

    Shunning the mid range game doesn't bring success!!!! That poop's so rotten it's steaming! Let's look at some of the decade's championship teams and their mid range contributors.

    Detroit - Hamilton, Billups
    LA - Kobe, Gasol
    SA - Parker, Duncan
    Boston - Pierce, Garnett

    Any familiarity amongst that list of names?

    Chandler, Felton, Douglas, Gallo and, with time, Randolph are all highly capable mid range converters. Chandler especially has a crisp baseline 15-20 footer. Gallo can drop them from anywhere. What form of deluded mind shuns an entire facet of offense and is considered an offensive genius?

    You can't possibly agree with that sentiment? I can't see how anyone could.

    In fact, I dedicated an entire thread to our success depending on spreading the floor with shots inside the 20 foot semi circle. Here it is. Please, check it out it'll save me the effort of typing more.[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

    As I mentioned previously, I question whether or not you've watched any games? Because if you have, you would have seen Chandler's capabilities in full array during the pre-season and in our opening 3 games as a spot shooting/slashing threat. What happened to that? I'll ****ing tell you what happened.....It's more of Mike's unyielding, fractious 'my way' mindset.



    No, not suddenly, not recently, but it did happen all of a sudden. On the day Shaquille O'Neal referred to himself as the Big Cactus. Shaq threw a spanner in Mike's fanny and now we have a team that isn't based on a one track MO as well.



    Again. Have you been watching the games!? Have you seen the team crumble? Have you watched the 'SSOL' (which spells LOSS backwards) hand momentum to the other team? Our excellent first quarters (bar Philly)? Our players look they've had plenty of time on the court together. They're just not being coached to epitomise their strengths individually or as a unit/units.

    There has been no encouragement from Mike, from what I've seen, in crucial stages of the 3rd and 4th quarters, to use the clock, draw fouls or set drawn out plays based around interior to perimeter passing to lull the defence in to mistakes as leads dwindle..... The green light is killing us. Again, where is the mid range threat? 3, 3, 3, 3, 3. Can't not mention missed layups though.

    "D'Antoni preaches a low foul rate, sometimes at the expense of preventing points."

    What sort of philosophical crud is that?




    Thank you for making my own last point resoundingly clear in your own post! We have what we need to win on the roster. That's the most overt point I could possibly make. Getting your team to the best possible result requires an in depth perception of the players we have VS the motto Dantoni's created. Well, he didn't even create it! 'My way or the highway' is older than Donnie Walsh.

    So yet again, I'll make my point, my perception, the premise of my disdain, whatever you want to call it, clear once again:

    MD's ways are set in adamant and none shall suffice without doing so on the onus of his tenure in Phoenix.

    He's fixated on past success, as the coach of a team locked in a tumultuous present. So with the past and present covered, the future is looking bleak with MD pressing the wrong buttons on a time worn modus operandi that depends on such focal components.

    ie: Steve Nash
    hate to be redundant but 3 point shooting is what will get us to be a consistent offensive team. that's how the system is played..

    as i explained in my op, it is possible to shoot it consistently on a night to night basis.. phoenix proves that. they run the same system but there guys hit shots. nash has alot to do w that as he is a mistro at the ssol system.

    felton could improve in a couple of areas:

    1. consistently push the ball up the court and pass it aggressively up the court in transition.

    2. break down the defense much more. get in there and cause havoc.

    3. when getting in the paint be more patient. maintain your dribble at times, maybe take a little fade-away at others, shoot the runner, just be a threat and keep the defense guessing.

    the team as a whole would benefit if felton took more control of the offense and was more like nash. we know he can't be nash, but he can be more nash-like more often.. this would help the offense greatly. it would also help the perimeter shooters. if the perimeter shooters start to click, then amare has more breathing room and so will the pick and roll.

    this is how i think our offense can get better in a few different, important facets. as i stated above there are some things felton can do to be the pg this offense needs. he needs to be nash-like..


    next, yes coach is in stuck mode. he has his offense and he's gonna go w it for better or worse. my belief is that we've seen it run great before and history tends to and can repeat itself. i think it can work here too. mike d can coach up pg's. he knows the position, as he was one (a great one in his own right) and has coached the position for a long time well. he did have alot to do w nash's development. that is undeniable. felton may not end up being what nash is, but i believe coach d can get him somewhere in the neighborhood. this would look like him being able to run the offense capably enough to where our shooters could breathe on the perimeter, there would be that crisp timing to the offense and the pick and roll would be effective. not too much to ask of mike d.. this is what he does. this is a new team w new players, a new point guard. simply put, it will take time.

    also, mike d doesn't have a whole lot of options right now. these guys don't know how to run his offense competently enough yet. you crawl before yo can walk my dude. we start two rookies and we have a new point guard. out of the only three players that really know the system that start, only two of them have played together and that was only for a season and a handful of games. what do you expect dude.. if your as smart as you want everyone on here to think you are you should know this group of players needs time to develop an array of threatening plays that will work consistently. let felt get a feel for amare in the pick and roll. let some of the other little plays start to develop. let the guys get to know where each other will be in the myriad of instances throughout a game. let them develop chemistry. you can't rush it.. neither can i. it will take time, maybe a whole season.

    again we run the ssol. this is the way we play. get over it. you're right about the mid range game being a great, viable weapon in the league tho .. can't deny that. but there happen to be different philosophies out there and mike d's is just one of them. again, it has worked in the past. it can work now.

    mike d hasn't lost any of his coaching abilites.. your're overreacting to an under- gunned, inexperienced team that lacks chemistry at the moment. to me it's a waste of energy and time if you know what it takes to get good, ie time, ups and downs, etc. and, yes i've seen the third and forth quarter collaspes. they are symptomatic of a young inexperienced team learning to win. pretty simple.

    And no, we don't have what we need to be the kind of team we all want. we have just enough to be a scrappy .500, or just under .500 team. it will take time and growing pains to grow into that tho, which we've seen over the last 9 games.

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    Originally Posted by metrocard
    You have zero experience coaching basketball, so I'll take D'Antoni's moves over your non credible ass. Even if it fails, you're not qualified to speak on basketball decisions. So stop pretending like you are. Fool.
    how can you back up Mike D? Hasn't he proved to you he can't coach due to his ignorance in thinking this team is the Suns?

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    Jesus!!! Again with repetitive marathon. This is the last time I reply to a novel.

    hate to be redundant but 3 point shooting is what will get us to be a consistent offensive team. that's how the system is played..
    That's where 'the system' is failing. Epically.

    as i explained in my op, it is possible to shoot it consistently on a night to night basis.. phoenix proves that. they run the same system but there guys hit shots. nash has alot to do w that as he is a mistro at the ssol system.
    Hence the need for dramatic alterations. We are not the Suns. This is something you seem reluctant to take in.

    felton could improve in a couple of areas:

    1. consistently push the ball up the court and pass it aggressively up the court in transition.

    2. break down the defense much more. get in there and cause havoc.

    3. when getting in the paint be more patient. maintain your dribble at times, maybe take a little fade-away at others, shoot the runner, just be a threat and keep the defense guessing.
    1. Agreed

    2. Agreed

    3. Agreed

    the team as a whole would benefit if felton took more control of the offense and was more like nash. we know he can't be nash, but he can be more nash-like more often..
    If that's your self deliberation, you're affirming that MD, his system, his reputation, have a Nash dependence. Transforming Felton in to Nash is not unlike turning lead in to gold. Stop it.

    this would help the offense greatly. it would also help the perimeter shooters. if the perimeter shooters start to click, then amare has more breathing room and so will the pick and roll.
    This comes down to priority: Prove the system works taking things day by day, click by click or pursuing the postseason. Pursuing it by finding cohesion within the components, not the system itself. Why is it so difficult to adjust?

    Call me outlandish, but I'd prefer a postseason appearance. This team's quest for a top 8 seed began opening night.

    this is how i think our offense can get better in a few different, important facets. as i stated above there are some things felton can do to be the pg this offense needs. he needs to be nash-like..
    He needs to be Nash like because everything 'D'Antoni' is based around the MVP abilities of Nashty. Can I possibly be more Lamen in my terminology? Am I wasting my time repeating as you repeat?


    next, yes coach is in stuck mode. he has his offense and he's gonna go w it for better or worse.
    So far, it's been for worse. The fact that there've been ZERO calibrations to a non-cohesive team makes me nauseas. Defend it if you want, but it's festering. If it 'aint broke, don't fix it. If it is broken, ****ing do something about it and give the dead horse a rest

    my belief is that we've seen it run great before and history tends to and can repeat itself
    .

    That's purely speculative in any situation. A counter speculation is that if MD were to coach another team after the Knicks, that his ardent love for the 3 ball would be the demise of said team's record as well! Hence history repeating itself.

    i think it can work here too. mike d can coach up pg's. he knows the position, as he was one (a great one in his own right) and has coached the position for a long time well. he did have alot to do w nash's development. that is undeniable. felton may not end up being what nash is, but i believe coach d can get him somewhere in the neighborhood. this would look like him being able to run the offense capably enough to where our shooters could breathe on the perimeter, there would be that crisp timing to the offense and the pick and roll would be effective. not too much to ask of mike d.. this is what he does.
    Again with the need for Nash! I think I'll refer to it from here on as: The Nashessity of solving the SSOL conundrum. I like that!

    this is a new team w new players, a new point guard. simply put, it will take time.
    As with Mike, you too seem completely comfortable with ignoring alternate ideas. 'It has to be done this way, or not at all'. Ludicrous! Does Felton need to be Nash? Or does Felton need to be utilised as best as possible? You can only cook with what's in your cupboard.

    F.I.N

    Felton isn't Nash.

    N.I.P

    New York isn't Phoenix. And it doesn't have to be.

    also, mike d doesn't have a whole lot of options right now. these guys don't know how to run his offense competently enough yet. you crawl before yo can walk my dude. we start two rookies and we have a new point guard. out of the only three players that really know the system that start, only two of them have played together and that was only for a season and a handful of games.
    Crawl before you walk? What about the famous idiom - 'to be thrown in the deep end'? It's up to Mike to make the best of what isn't even a bad situation. But, as always, we come in to critical moments of a tight game in the 4th, fresh out of a designed play, and are presented with **** the likes of @ Denver. Passing the ball to the corner 3 spot? Please enlighten me if that's not a **** idea.


    if your as smart as you want everyone on here to think you are
    'C' is for c#nt! Unnecessary.


    you should know this group of players needs time to develop an array of threatening plays that will work consistently. let felt get a feel for amare in the pick and roll. let some of the other little plays start to develop. let the guys get to know where each other will be in the myriad of instances throughout a game. let them develop chemistry. you can't rush it.. neither can i. it will take time, maybe a whole season.
    I agree with you. But a whole season? These guys are pros. Myriad of instances? Doesn't the team with the ball dictate each instance? Are 10-15 fundamental set plays too few? Perhaps they are? Because 30 plays a night, someone's bricking another f'ing 3. We have taken a collective 177 more threes than our opponents combined this year. 177!!! Chandler has taken 56 and made 17, Gallo has taken 59 and hit 18, TD has taken 55 and made 15, Felton has taken 47 and made 18. Does that have a single thing to do with chemistry? No! It ****ing well doesn't! It's blatant misguidance.

    Twice the Knicks have made 40% or more of their 3s in a single match, resulting in 2 wins. Math so difficult for me. Me take nap now.

    Toronto was a gimme win. Don't even go there.

    again we run the ssol. this is the way we play. get over it.
    This is the way we've lost our games. Admit it.

    mike d hasn't lost any of his coaching abilites.. your're overreacting to an under- gunned, inexperienced team that lacks chemistry at the moment. to me it's a waste of energy and time if you know what it takes to get good, ie time, ups and downs, etc. and, yes i've seen the third and forth quarter collaspes. they are symptomatic of a young inexperienced team learning to win. pretty simple.
    Pretty simple!? Really? Is floundering as simple as maintaining a lead fundamentally? The premise of using the clock with ball movement when in the lead.

    Have you ever played organised basketball? Do I have to repeat myself constantly, as you do? Are you made of vinyl?

    And no, we don't have what we need to be the kind of team we all want. we have just enough to be a scrappy .500, or just under .500 team. it will take time and growing pains to grow into that tho, which we've seen over the last 9 games.
    We absolutely have enough to be a scrappy .500 team. That's all the majority of posters here ever wanted out of this year. With every SSOL 3 point disaster, that likelihood falls further away. And nobody's doing a thing to rectify the debacle.

    That's my story and I'm sticking to it. The verdict will be out in one month. Until then, this system is heinous - I don't know why you defend it as it festers in front of you - please, as I mentioned before, don't reply at such length. If you do, try not to say the precise same things in separate forms.

    Booooooorrrriiiiiinnnnnngggg.

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    Originally Posted by metrocard
    You have zero experience coaching basketball, so I'll take D'Antoni's moves over your non credible ass. Even if it fails, you're not qualified to speak on basketball decisions. So stop pretending like you are. Fool.

    oh and u do.. the fact of the matter is you dont know if i ever coahed on any level.. ur just assuming..... which makes u the first three letters of the word..

    wipe gallo's and O'antonis manhood off ya face my dude...

    CLOWNS

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    Some guys need a girl to disrespect them 20 times before they realize what's going on...

    and some see it in 1 conversation.

    It's just a learning curve. Some are ahead of it... and some lag behind.

    I have faith that at the end of the day we will agree this isn't right.

    Good Post Crazy8. Damn, you went in.

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