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    Default The problem isn't in Gallinari

    The problem is in how he's being used.

    Believe it or not, in terms of ability to getting to the line, Gallinari's skill sets has him ranked behind Amare in this department. Gallo has great time, crafty skills, body control, and aggressiveness to get the free throw line.

    The problem? Its the tendency

    Gallo has passing skills that we don't get the see because he's always spotting up.

    The more Gallo drives, the more dangerous our offense can be which will result in more opportunities there will be for other players.

    I'm not giving up on Gallo, I don't know what you expected out of him this season. He's not going to post up 25 ppg, 8 rebounds, 2 blocks or something.

    Its only been 8 games. Why are you guys so conditional?

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    Not confident in Gallos abilities at all. He's not that good imo. Never liked the pick.

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    Originally Posted by metrocard
    The problem is in how he's being used.

    Believe it or not, in terms of ability to getting to the line, Gallinari's skill sets has him ranked behind Amare in this department. Gallo has great time, crafty skills, body control, and aggressiveness to get the free throw line.

    The problem? Its the tendency

    Gallo has passing skills that we don't get the see because he's always spotting up.

    The more Gallo drives, the more dangerous our offense can be which will result in more opportunities there will be for other players.

    I'm not giving up on Gallo, I don't know what you expected out of him this season. He's not going to post up 25 ppg, 8 rebounds, 2 blocks or something.

    Its only been 8 games. Why are you guys so conditional?
    I blame Mike D for most of the players not performing to their abilities....and Amare should be averaging 26 ppg easy but he is being used wrong, same with Felton.

    But Gallinari is different in that the dude has no confidence in himself. He recently said that he will never see himself as a star and at best sees himself as near Dirk in ability because he said that he doesn't have the abilities to be as great as many stars in the league....you don't need athleticism to be great, look at Paul Peirce, the guy runs like a turkey but gets 20 ppg and hits the open shots.

    Gallo, i feel needs top of the line coaching to start playing to his strengths. Gallo needs Greg Popovich, Jerry Sloan, Pat Riley...whoever to school him on how to play basketball, Mike D is only hurting him. So as far as that goes I agree but Gallo has flunked and has been the most inconsistent Knick in the past few years.

    If Gallo went from nothing to average then I wouldn't care, but this guy has lite up teams for 30 points with lights out shooting, and then a day later he scores 2 points...who does that besides Gallo?

    This shows me he doesn't learn from his mistakes and the coaching is slowing him down from learning his game.

    Gallo is doomed on this team. This is why we should trade him, because Mike D will never make him the player we know he can be.

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    Can we wait till game 20 till we drop Gallo? He is a GOOD player.

    I don't think Mike D is that bad as we make him, I don't know why I'm being so optimistic.

    I'm very critical, you guys know that. But with experience, comes reward. I feel like our guys will reach full potential.

    D'Antoni has a history of bringing the best out of his players.

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    Originally Posted by metrocard
    Can we wait till game 20 till we drop Gallo? He is a GOOD player.

    I don't think Mike D is that bad as we make him, I don't know why I'm being so optimistic.

    I'm very critical, you guys know that. But with experience, comes reward. I feel like our guys will reach full potential.

    D'Antoni has a history of bringing the best out of his players.
    But Metro, have you seen anything different from this year and last year? It's as if the same trend continues to happen. We have a team of strong physical players that are very effective when they post up, drive, and draw fouls, BUT instead we play Mike D's system which is to find the open man outside. When we make the shots we instantly win but usually we miss most of the shots which is why we are ranked 23rd in 3 point shooting. We can go 0 for 30 from 3 and still continue to shoot them, just like last year.

    Just like last year, we would have moments with hustle and good defense, then we would lay some eggs and not hustle and not play interior defense like we did last night

    And the most sickening thing about nothing changing is our offensive plays in the 4th quarter during close games.

    Why did we pass the ball to Wilson Chandler who has two guys in his face for a three when he is not even a consistent three point shooter. Why didn't Amare shoot it when he just sank a three to put the game to 1 point deficit? Why did Gallo throw up a brick with 20 seconds left on the clock? Horrible shot selection continues to haunt this team and the problem is that nothing has changed.

    It is the same Mike D type of basketball. He is forcing these players to play his style when it just is not working. We don't have sharp shooters and we are not using the pick and roll which is a HUGE part of Amare's success. So all of this tells me it is on the coach. And when the problems are on the coach, then we are going nowhere.

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    I wish Gallo, the team and D'Antoni would get the message esp D'Antoni. Just look at the media, that's all Tripucka and Breen were talking about was the need to drive to the basket more and not settle for 3s and us on this BBS in literally dozens of threads calling for the same thing.

    D'Antoni is damn stubborn, I hear other coaches tell their players in the huddles, guys we have to be aggressive and drive to the basket more. D'Ants on the other hand, did you hear him when he was mic'ed up telling Douglas "that's what you do" talking about his 3 pt shot.

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    Originally Posted by tiger0330
    D'Ants on the other hand, did you hear him when he was mic'ed up telling Douglas "that's what you do" talking about his 3 pt shot.
    I heard that. Then, when the game was teetering for us, Douglas blindfolds Curry with a quick cross & gets to the hoop for the and 1.

    That's what Toney does. He brings a smorgasbord of O and D. The O and the D don't stand for One Dimensional either, Mike.

    That's what Gallo can do but he's stuck in a mode. He had a whole year of experimentation as a virtual rookie starter and an off-season to refine his game. He's the same Gallo, he just can't shoot and his decision making has worsened. That and he looks like he wants it less than last year.

    Is that in the way he's being used or the way he's approaching being successful?

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    It is too early to give up...I dont like the way the whole team is playing. But i agree that its too early to give up. I have talked alot about the potential of this team. Its a completely new group of players and its gonna take some more time. I must admit I am losing confidence in the ****...its not so much his ability, its his consistency. Even when hes played good (or put up good stats), he does it in spurts. We need players to be consistent throughout the whole game, so far we dont have too many of those. I do think he can make a big impact and the **** can also open things up for other players. But theres maybe only one or two players on the team that dont deserve to be called out. Its not really right to call out one player either, its the team. I'm not writing Gallo or the team off yet, just disappointed with bad shots, lack of consistency, stagnant offense, turnovers, and no defense.

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    Originally Posted by tiger0330
    I wish Gallo, the team and D'Antoni would get the message esp D'Antoni. Just look at the media, that's all Tripucka and Breen were talking about was the need to drive to the basket more and not settle for 3s and us on this BBS in literally dozens of threads calling for the same thing.

    D'Antoni is damn stubborn, I hear other coaches tell their players in the huddles, guys we have to be aggressive and drive to the basket more. D'Ants on the other hand, did you hear him when he was mic'ed up telling Douglas "that's what you do" talking about his 3 pt shot.
    bro i remember that, what a joke...yea thats what you do toney, go 0 for 7 and keep shooting because thats what u do...shoot bricks...thats what the whole team does

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    To be fair, GALLO is playing with a sore wrist. How severe is the throbbing pain, and what impact that has on his shooting touch? Who knows. But anyone who has played ball will attest to the fact that any sort of discomfort is enough to alter the shot and cause problems.

    Gallo is improving in his all-around game. Rebounds, assists and whatnot. BUT, what he is and needs to be is a shooter. A scorer. If his wrist is bothering him, well then he's not 100%.

    Gallo is only 22. He might be off all year b/c he's playing through pain. He might even take another year to finally "get it." I wouldn't label him a bust until after the 2012 season.

    Will he be here when he fully develops? Will he be elsewhere? Who knows. BUt you can't wrie him off after 8 games this year.

    SURE, some say we should have drafted LOPEZ. Personally, I wanted Eric Gordon. This isn't the pick Walsh whiffed on though. The HILL pick and subsequent HOU trade was devastating. Not only did we just miss out on Curry, not only did we pass on Jennings and Lawson, but we then made that terrible deal to shed Jeffries 2010 contract.

    I think the best thing for Gallo is to rest for a few weeks. If his wrist is sore... sprained... whatever, then he's not doing any good losing confidence trying to play through the pain.

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    I think the problem is with Amare and his turnovers. It makes me sick to see him give the ball away so many times trying to be a hero. He needs to stop trying to dribble / pass through double teams and keep shooting his jumper.

    When the jumper is not there pass the ball and get in position for a rebound. It is weird to me that he is not a better rebounder with all his speed,power, and athletic ability.

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    Originally Posted by mafra
    To be fair, GALLO is playing with a sore wrist. How severe is the throbbing pain, and what impact that has on his shooting touch? Who knows. But anyone who has played ball will attest to the fact that any sort of discomfort is enough to alter the shot and cause problems.

    Gallo is improving in his all-around game. Rebounds, assists and whatnot. BUT, what he is and needs to be is a shooter. A scorer. If his wrist is bothering him, well then he's not 100%.

    Gallo is only 22. He might be off all year b/c he's playing through pain. He might even take another year to finally "get it." I wouldn't label him a bust until after the 2012 season.

    Will he be here when he fully develops? Will he be elsewhere? Who knows. BUt you can't wrie him off after 8 games this year.

    SURE, some say we should have drafted LOPEZ. Personally, I wanted Eric Gordon. This isn't the pick Walsh whiffed on though. The HILL pick and subsequent HOU trade was devastating. Not only did we just miss out on Curry, not only did we pass on Jennings and Lawson, but we then made that terrible deal to shed Jeffries 2010 contract.

    I think the best thing for Gallo is to rest for a few weeks. If his wrist is sore... sprained... whatever, then he's not doing any good losing confidence trying to play through the pain.
    dont use the wrist excuse...one year its his back, then it is his rookie shooting slump, now the wrist, this kid just sucks because he is inconsistent plain and simple and he is extremely over rated

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    your right metro the problem isnt gallo, its that sorry excuse of a head coach mike d'antoni

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    get rid of that bum gallo he sucks ass!

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    Originally Posted by Paul1355
    dont use the wrist excuse...one year its his back, then it is his rookie shooting slump, now the wrist, this kid just sucks because he is inconsistent plain and simple and he is extremely over rated
    that's true. gallo just doesn't have it. he's an average jump shooter (32% from 3) who offers little more. he can't defend, he's not a great passer, he's a weak rebounder, he doesn't block shots and if he wasn't the son of dantoni's former teammate, he wouldn't even be a knick. it was a bad pick and now we're losing b/c of it.

    gallo needs to come off the bench. he can't compete w/ most starting small forwards.

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