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    We are all likely familiar with the sign Jesus provided his followers concerning his second coming, in mathew 24; 3-14. Most nay sayers will say the sign that Jesus provided has always been happening in the world. And to an extent, they are correct. Except for the fact that all the events Jesus relayed, were grouped into one specific sign. Meaning that each of the references had to take place at the same time, which would then be the singular sign that Jesus has been enthroned as King in heaven, and the time alloted for the last days has begun. Biblical reference points to 1914 as the year this took place. The events within that time frame certainly give gleaming evidence that this is surely the case, and we have been livig in the last days for almost 100 years now.

    But what stregnthens true Christian faith is what was said concerning the sign on verse 14. It reads

    And the good news of the Kingdom will be preached in the entire inhabited earth, AND THEN THE END WILL COME.

    The logical question one should ask then is, what exactly is the Good news? Well iys the same message Jesus and his apostles preached in their day. The truth about Jehovah, who is responsible for the way of the world, and what Jehovah plans to do about it. Jesus did it on a level higher, because his miracles performed showed without a doubt that Jehovah has the power to feed, heal, calm storms, raise the dead, strengthen faith. Today, miracles are not performed, but also they are not needed. We have the biblical accounts. All that is needed now is the preaching of the message, so people have a chance at life.

    Jehovah has taken hold of his people as he has done throughout history, and has spearheaded the most thorough preaching work in human history the last 100 yrs or so. His witnesses have been preaching the same message Jesus started in the 1st century. But is it really being preached in the entire inhabited earth?

    The NYT released an article sighting the worlds most read magazine. That magazine just so happens to be The Watchtower, published by none other than Jehovahs witnesses!

    Prophecy unveiled before our very eyes! In light of this, will you maybe consider a brief chat with a witness next time thy appear at ur door?

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    Are you saying wars, threats of wars, false prophets and people starving to death have never occurred at the same time in history?

    Please research The Dark Ages. Those times were much, much worse than current times,

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    Originally Posted by LJ4ptplay
    Are you saying wars, threats of wars, false prophets and people starving to death have never occurred at the same time in history?

    Please research The Dark Ages. Those times were much, much worse than current times,
    No they were not. The casualties within the last hundrwd years from war, famine, and pestilence has been way higher than any time. But the kicker is, the Kingdom message was not being preached durig the dark ages. And since it os part of the sign that Jesus gave that would mark his presence, then clearly the dark ages was not the time Jesus was enthroned. The kingdom message has to be preached for it to qualify as the sign. That was noy happening until about 1900's

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    Originally Posted by Knicks4lyfe
    No they were not. The casualties within the last hundrwd years from war, famine, and pestilence has been way higher than any time.
    Not percentage of population. Obviously there are more deaths now because there are 6 billion people on the planet. But as a percentage of the population, the Dark Ages were much, much worse. The Black Plague wiped out over 50% of Europe's population alone (over 100 million people in 1 year).

    Higher population equals higher everything. I can also say there have never been as many happy people in the world as there have been in the last 100 years. That is a fact as well. Just because you are unhappy doesn't mean there aren't many very happy people living right now.

    How do you know the Kingdom's message was not preached at all during the Dark Ages? Because JW's did not exist then? How do you know there haven't been other Christian religions preaching the same message? You can't say for certain. You don't ave every record of every fundamental christian group that existed during the Dark Ages. And there were a lot. Ironically, the Dark Ages were "dark" because of religion.
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    Originally Posted by LJ4ptplay
    How do you know the Kingdom's message was not preached at all during the Dark Ages? Because JW's did not exist then? How do you know there haven't been other Christian religions preaching the same message? You can't say for certain. You don't ave every record of every fundamental christian group that existed during the Dark Ages. And there were a lot. Ironically, the Dark Ages were "dark" because of religion.
    Because the bible prophecied about the time where Jerusalem would be trampled on. Not earthly jerusalem, but spiritually. Once the apostles died off, unfounded teachings began to be passed as doctrine. Hell fire, Triune God, pagan holidays, and loose conduct. These things started to take place on a small scale in some intances if u read the book of acts, you can see some examples where the apostles warned people to stick to truth and not unfounded teachings. Jesus parable of the sower and harvest speaks on the farmer sowing good seeds, and then the enemy sowing weeds amongst the good good crop. And then there wou be a time where the weeds would be destroyed whem the harvest was ripe. That was speakin on his return as king in heaven.

    Remember, Jehovah has allowed Satan rule over the world. That meams even affecting true worship in some ways. That is why the book of Daniel says the truth will become abundant in the end.

    Jesus preached Jehovah, not himself as God. Jws do too.

    Jesus preached only by serving God acceptably, is your life worthwhile. Jws do too

    Jesus preached that the dead are not burning in hell, but unconscious in death, until the ressurection. Jws do too

    When Jesus was tempted by the devil, he pointed to the bible, his own philosophy as to jow to correctly deal with life and the enemy. Jws do too

    Jesus preached the righteous would live forever on earth, jws do too

    There is no record of Jesus or any of his apostles believin in hell, purgatory, immortal soul, good to heaven, earth blowing up, and other lies satan has weeded into Christendom. So therefore none of the Christian sects could have been preaching the same message as Jesus.

    The watchtower is the most read magazine in the world. There are only 7.3 jws doing this work. Compared to other faiths we ate gnats. Yet somehow, the whole entire inhabited earth is recieving the truth about Jehovah. All the while the world os worse than its ever been. Coincidence? Surely not.

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    Originally Posted by Knicks4lyfe
    Because the bible prophecied about the time where Jerusalem would be trampled on. Not earthly jerusalem, but spiritually. Once the apostles died off, unfounded teachings began to be passed as doctrine. Hell fire, Triune God, pagan holidays, and loose conduct. These things started to take place on a small scale in some intances if u read the book of acts, you can see some examples where the apostles warned people to stick to truth and not unfounded teachings. Jesus parable of the sower and harvest speaks on the farmer sowing good seeds, and then the enemy sowing weeds amongst the good good crop. And then there wou be a time where the weeds would be destroyed whem the harvest was ripe. That was speakin on his return as king in heaven.

    Remember, Jehovah has allowed Satan rule over the world. That meams even affecting true worship in some ways. That is why the book of Daniel says the truth will become abundant in the end.

    Jesus preached Jehovah, not himself as God. Jws do too.

    Jesus preached only by serving God acceptably, is your life worthwhile. Jws do too

    Jesus preached that the dead are not burning in hell, but unconscious in death, until the ressurection. Jws do too

    When Jesus was tempted by the devil, he pointed to the bible, his own philosophy as to jow to correctly deal with life and the enemy. Jws do too

    Jesus preached the righteous would live forever on earth, jws do too

    There is no record of Jesus or any of his apostles believin in hell, purgatory, immortal soul, good to heaven, earth blowing up, and other lies satan has weeded into Christendom. So therefore none of the Christian sects could have been preaching the same message as Jesus.

    The watchtower is the most read magazine in the world. There are only 7.3 jws doing this work. Compared to other faiths we ate gnats. Yet somehow, the whole entire inhabited earth is recieving the truth about Jehovah. All the while the world os worse than its ever been. Coincidence? Surely not.
    You didn't answer either question.

    You can't continue to say the last 100 years are the worst in human times. This is just false.

    And you don't know if the same message spread by JWs was never spread previously.

    You can't continue stating things without evidence to support it.

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