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    Loss in CLE shows this team was a fraud.

    People actually got excited b/c we went 1-2 at home instead of 0-3.

    This team is nothing more than a 41 or so team. 1st round 4-1 loss.

    That's it.

    I'm not getting excited about that at all.

    TRADE THEM ALL to get Carmelo.

    Gallo, Chandler, Douglas, Randolph. All of them.

    Get ready for a 4-15 type stretch from this team. Brace yourself.

    Chandler & Gallo are frauds. Douglas and Randolph shouldn't even be in the NBA.

    WAS almost beats MIA. They should have, until refs awarded them 7 free throws in 17 seconds while ignoring two blatant fouls on WAS players.

    Knicks are more like that 3-8 record then that amazing run they went on.

    This loss is also a direct result of D'ant's foolish 7-8 man tight rotation.

    It's almost unbelievable how this team always responds to success, with devasting fashion. How quickly they can evaporate hope and PUFF, there it all goes.

    Raise your hand if you circled this game and absolutely knew it was a loss.

    I had no doubt. After "dream" week... This had loss all over it.

    Another 4th quarter collapse. Another night where defense is something they play in rugby. Another night where Gallo-Chandler simply shrink from standing up and actually carrying the team to a victory.

    Call DEN.... trade everyone and anyone except Felton, STAT & Fields.

    GALLO goes 1-10 from 3-point range! I want him traded so badly. So sick of this kid's act.

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    lmfao this is gonna have hate all in this thread from metro an lj an those who wanna "develop" kids. I for one saw this coming just hoped last night wouldve been closer, so im not going to go off.

    fire D'ant
    trade for help

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    I wouldn't go as far as saying that they're frauds, but we definitely need Melo. I've been saying that all along. We have a lot of wannabe GM types on here who love to pull names outta a hat and say that we can't trade Fields for Melo...but come on... You throw two legit, consistent players, that command a double team, on the same squad and you're heading in the right direction. Swear that all we need is a backup PG and a big center and swear we're a playoff team....well you're delusional.

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    Originally Posted by la2ny
    lmfao this is gonna have hate all in this thread from metro an lj an those who wanna "develop" kids. I for one saw this coming just hoped last night wouldve been closer, so im not going to go off.

    fire D'ant
    trade for help

    It's like the curse of those Ewing days are back. The days when we had no other viable options for a game winning shot, than to hand the ball to our 7-footer 18 feet away from the basket, and watch a fall-away low pct shot clank off the rim.

    This is what D'ant designed?

    Where's the creativity? Notice how MO WILLIAMS attacked the basket? We fall away.

    This loss is good b/c it should prove to Walsh.... once and for all.... that if we wait on Melo we're going to be screwed. Gallo will never develop into anything beyond a JJ Redick type player. A bench player.

    1-10 from the 3? I would sit him for a week now.

    Chandler gets STATS but he's never there when the game matters most. He disappears too often.

    I would gladly deal both of them to get Carmelo. Send Randolph packing too.

    Fields is the only guy I would hesitate about dealing. As for the rest, I'm tired of watching you lose games. GOOD RIDDANCE.

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    Originally Posted by nuckles2k2
    I wouldn't go as far as saying that they're frauds, but we definitely need Melo. I've been saying that all along. We have a lot of wannabe GM types on here who love to pull names outta a hat and say that we can't trade Fields for Melo...but come on... You throw two legit, consistent players, that command a double team, on the same squad and you're heading in the right direction. Swear that all we need is a backup PG and a big center and swear we're a playoff team....well you're delusional.
    I think this game and that home loss to PHI says everything about this group. PHI owned us recently and we allowed them to wipe us off our own court w/out a fight.

    THEN, we take LJ off CLE. We add Amar'e and Felton. All we talked about for 2 years was that CLE was just as bad as NY, that if you had LJ switch teams then CLE would stink and NY would win 60 games. PLZ!

    This game proves that lie.

    We desperately needed this win, and they just humiliated this team.

    WE ARE SNIFFING the 8th seed. If we're lucky. Then we get to watch the Knicks as they get swept in 4 blowouts.

    PLZ.

    Haven't we had enough of emotional weeks, morale victories, as the losses pile up?

    45 wins would be the max.

    Watch the next 20 games, and witness 4-16.

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    Yea man, that point about Gallo is true. I don't know why people think that a 6'10'' SF with ZERO BODY CONTROL is going to develop into an all-star. Notice what I said...body control, not athleticism. Dirk has pretty good body control, but he's not athletic, what the **** does Gallo end up doing when he "drives?" If it's not a clear path then get ready for a circus act.

    Melo has superior body control to go along with excellent athleticism. Throw in everything else he has in his skill-set and you have a special player that comes around one or twice every decade.

    GO. GET. THAT. MAN. NOW!!

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    Originally Posted by nuckles2k2
    Yea man, that point about Gallo is true. I don't know why people think that a 6'10'' SF with ZERO BODY CONTROL is going to develop into an all-star. Notice what I said...body control, not athleticism. Dirk has pretty good body control, but he's not athletic, what the **** does Gallo end up doing when he "drives?" If it's not a clear path then get ready for a circus act.

    Melo has superior body control to go along with excellent athleticism. Throw in everything else he has in his skill-set and you have a special player that comes around one or twice every decade.

    GO. GET. THAT. MAN. NOW!!
    What did we get from Chandler and Gallo? On a night the Cavs did everything to take STAT away, and force those 2 wannabe clowns to be them?

    They go 8-28 from the field. 3-16 from 3. 16 of their 28 shots come from their laziness to work for points. Ah, the Cavs are guarding us. Why work hard? Just shoot bombs. Clank.

    They combine for 6 rebounds (1 on offense), 5 assists, 2 steals, 4 turnovers and 5 fouls.

    A disgusting stat line.

    Felton was good. 23, 11 and 7.

    STAT was off again. But what can you do. He needs help. Felton came to play, but we had nothing else.

    This is why Chandler-Gallo are frauds. This is the game you need them to lead. But they just aren't good enough to do that, and probably never will be.

    S-Williams got the Knicks 12 points and 7 rebounds in 21 minutes.

    Gallo (39 minutes) and Chandler (40 minutes) got us 20 points and 6 rebounds in 79 combined minutes.

    It's all about FIRE. HEART. WILL. COMPETITIVENESS. Gallo and Chandler lack these traits and that is all you need to know. Imagine who much they would shrink when the playoffs arrive?


    They fall apart under regular season pressure. Post season pressure would destroy them.

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    Originally Posted by nuckles2k2
    Yea man, that point about Gallo is true. I don't know why people think that a 6'10'' SF with ZERO BODY CONTROL is going to develop into an all-star. Notice what I said...body control, not athleticism. Dirk has pretty good body control, but he's not athletic, what the **** does Gallo end up doing when he "drives?" If it's not a clear path then get ready for a circus act.

    Melo has superior body control to go along with excellent athleticism. Throw in everything else he has in his skill-set and you have a special player that comes around one or twice every decade.

    GO. GET. THAT. MAN. NOW!!
    Gallo has the worst body control in the league. Omg its brutal to watch.

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    Originally Posted by Knicks4lyfe
    Gallo has the worst body control in the league. Omg its brutal to watch.
    I like this post. It complements the thread perfectly.

    People are starting to see what me and Kiyaman having been seeing.

    Antoni sucks.

    The Knicks would be 18-10, if they had a defensive minded coach.

    Allowing 109 points against the worst offensive team in the league is unacceptable. But Antoni could care less. He just wants the team to chuck up 3s.

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    Originally Posted by mafra
    It's like the curse of those Ewing days are back. The days when we had no other viable options for a game winning shot, than to hand the ball to our 7-footer 18 feet away from the basket, and watch a fall-away low pct shot clank off the rim.

    This is what D'ant designed?

    Where's the creativity? Notice how MO WILLIAMS attacked the basket? We fall away.

    This loss is good b/c it should prove to Walsh.... once and for all.... that if we wait on Melo we're going to be screwed. Gallo will never develop into anything beyond a JJ Redick type player. A bench player.

    1-10 from the 3? I would sit him for a week now.

    Chandler gets STATS but he's never there when the game matters most. He disappears too often.

    I would gladly deal both of them to get Carmelo. Send Randolph packing too.

    Fields is the only guy I would hesitate about dealing. As for the rest, I'm tired of watching you lose games. GOOD RIDDANCE.
    Ewing days..LMAO! You must be talking about the late ewing days with sprewell ? That team was a contender at least, this team just like I knew was a joke. They can't handle New york. with the exception of stat and felton. who on this team could take over..stat can't rely on anybody..as usual..I knew it .

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    The Knicks deserve to lose, they are playing the same way they were playing in the beginning of the season. This game will be a wake up call, and will bounce back.

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    Yes, this game was as bad as the beginning of the season, but come on, even the Lakers had close games against teams that might not even make the playoffs. Chandler? He's consistent and had an off night. Gallinari is the one who's inconsistent. We do need a second option.

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    Before the season started... Who would expect that we would be 16-12 right now?

    and come on... this game snapped our 8 game winning streak on the road.

    But we do need 2nd option....and quickly. Our boys are working too hard with this small rotation this early in the season.
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    Gallo drives me insane.

    He'll have a great game and then he'll chuck 10 3's. Under NO CIRCUMSTANCES should a player ever be shooting 10 3's, let alone when he makes ONE of them...

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    We need to beat these teams to have any respect in the league...

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