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    Default Plan B is to get Iguodala or Anderson Varejao/Gibson

    According to Chris Broussard at ESPN;

    While the New York Knicks remain confident in their chances of acquiring Carmelo Anthony this season, they are preparing backup plans in case he winds up in New Jersey or elsewhere.

    After Anthony declared how important signing the three-year, $64.47 million contract extension is to him during last week's visit to Madison Square Garden, the Knicks realized they may have trouble signing him as a free agent next summer.

    More and more, the thinking at Knicks headquarters is that Anthony will sign the extension with some club -- be it New York, New Jersey or whomever -- rather than become a free agent with a lockout looming.

    So if the Knicks can't trade for Anthony by the Feb. 24 trade deadline, they've got two other potential Plan Bs in mind.

    In one, they may go after Philadelphia's Andre Iguodala, who would seem to fit nicely in Mike D'Antoni's system. Eddy Curry's expiring contract and one other player might be enough to pry Iguodala away from the Sixers, though Philadelphia doesn't want to give away its top player in a mere salary dump.

    The Knicks' other scenario would potentially bring Cleveland's proven role players Anderson Varejao and Daniel "Boobie" Gibson to Madison Square Garden. The Knicks are aware of their need for more toughness inside and Varejao would provide that. And Gibson could fill the backup point guard spot the Knicks have been looking to upgrade.


    The Knicks are weighing whether those two options are better than what they could get on next summer's free agent market.

    Of course, Anthony remains the most coveted prize, and the Knicks still believe they can get him. Denver would rather deal with New Jersey, though, since the Nets have more to offer.

    The Nets have several potential trades for Anthony on the table and are merely waiting for Denver to choose one, according to sources. That doesn't mean a deal could be completed immediately; just that the Nets would then begin getting agreements from the various parties involved.

    The Nets have trade scenarios based on two-team deals between them and the Nuggets, as well as three- and four-team deals on the table.

    The two clubs have stayed in periodic contact over the past few months, but haven't spoken since Saturday, according to one source.
    Personally, I prefer Varejao/Boobie. Varejao would solve a ton of our defensive issue and provide a nice amount of toughness while Gibson can be the third PG. Not sure what it would take to get them. Iguodala is overrated in my opinion and I've heard hes a terrible lockerroom influence.

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    If we go fer Iggs, Fields or Chandler along w Curry does it.. I think we'd do that.

    Godsn stays. I can't see him being included in any of these backup type trades.

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    Originally Posted by iJoe
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    Personally, I prefer Varejao/Boobie. Varejao would solve a ton of our defensive issue and provide a nice amount of toughness while Gibson can be the third PG. Not sure what it would take to get them. Iguodala is overrated in my opinion and I've heard hes a terrible lockerroom influence.
    I've never heard that bout Iggs..

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    Not so sure Philly trades Iggy unless they get at least 80cents to the dollar.

    They aren't a bad team, and may very well make a playoff push this year.

    With Jru's unexpected emergence into a quality starting PG on the rise, locking down a Jru/Iggy backcourt as a base isn't a terrible idea.

    They may actually want to trade Turner now. To get a player they can start at forward or center.

    Their bad contract isn't even Iggy. It's Brand, who's playing alright and it's not an unrealistic thought they ride out his contract till he can be trade bait himself, and build while competing now.

    I'd rather target Richardson if we can in off season, and keep assets like Fields. And make a trade for Mayo if anything. AR and a 2nd.

    Bird Right Chandler, the Mayo deal, and signing: Richardson, BigBaby and Kirilienko should be our priorities if Melo fail, while letting Turiaf and Curry and Azzy go.

    Felton-Douglas
    Richardson-Fields
    Gallo-AK47
    BigBaby-Chandler
    STAT-Moz
    6th Mayo
    bench -- Walker, Williams, Ewing Jr, anyone we get through draft

    That team could be a defensive beast, while only improving our offense w needed depth, improved shooting especially with range, a superior big man, and winning veteran leadership.

    The sheer amount of talent and assets we have, which could even be argued is TOO great, would let us consolidate for an upgraded bigtime Center if we wanted, or a PG even.

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    Originally Posted by iJoe
    According to Chris Broussard at ESPN;



    Personally, I prefer Varejao/Boobie. Varejao would solve a ton of our defensive issue and provide a nice amount of toughness while Gibson can be the third PG. Not sure what it would take to get them. Iguodala is overrated in my opinion and I've heard hes a terrible lockerroom influence.
    Hmmmm, Iggy and Varejo; I remember suggesting them a month ago!

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    Maybe terrible is too strong of a word. He's more of a me first player who blames losses on his team and not himself. He's ****ier than he has the right to be and isn't the guy you'll see cheering on him teammates, but pouting on the sidelines.
    Then again... you should take this all with a grain of salt, because you never really know whats going on behind the scenes.

    I like Iggy cause he's a great defender. Hes not consistent from 3 range, but has a decent pullup in midrange which he relies a bit too much on. His main strength will be in transition where with the Knicks he can create major havoc. I actually think he's a better fit for us than Melo, in that we need a 2 more than a 3 and he'll be less of a strain on our salary cap.

    I'm mixed about him, but would still rather have Varejao for intimidation.

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    i dont believe in that plan b crap.... just like if we failed to get lebron .

    joe johnson and boozer where going to be the plan b

    i have a feeling if that deal with melo dont come tru he already has something on the table

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    Originally Posted by KNICKMATIC809
    i dont believe in that plan b crap.... just like if we failed to get lebron .

    joe johnson and boozer where going to be the plan b

    i have a feeling if that deal with melo dont come tru he already has something on the table
    That is what happen when you put all your eggs in 1 basket! Hopefully Walsh has learned from the LaBron disgrace and has open dialogue with the various teams that are putting quality guys on the block.

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    I have the solution:

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    Knicks take SESSIONS VAREJAO
    Cleveland take TURIAF RAUTINS MASON AZUBUIKE

    We have all the pices now
    we can keep AR CHANDLER CURRY' CONTRACT

    GUARDS:
    Felton -Sessions
    Fields - Douglas
    Walker

    F/SF
    Gallo - Chandler - S. Williams

    PF/C
    Amare - Varejao - Mozgov

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    Originally Posted by Aristoteles
    I have the solution:

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    Knicks take SESSIONS VAREJAO
    Cleveland take TURIAF RAUTINS MASON AZUBUIKE

    We have all the pices now
    we can keep AR CHANDLER CURRY' CONTRACT

    GUARDS:
    Felton -Sessions
    Fields - Douglas
    Walker

    F/SF
    Gallo - Chandler - S. Williams

    PF/C
    Amare - Varejao - Mozgov
    You do not want to give up Turiaf

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    And Ramon Sessions is not that good. Backup PG at best, really.

    Iggy would be a good player but is Iggy really THAT much better than, say, Wilson Chandler or OJ Mayo?

    Again, I'm not sold. Iggy is a 2 guard who isn't a great shooter for his position. Iggy's a good defender but I'm not sure we take that contract.

    Again I think we're better off just trading for OJ Mayo if you want to go for the Iguodala route. We could probably get Mayo for less due to Memphis' financial situation and the fact that they want to dump salary, he's much younger, cheaper, under team control, and he's a much better shooter.

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    Again I see the merit in Iguodala but someone tell me just exactly how and why Iguodala is that much better than OJ Mayo.

    If anything we could trade for Mayo and then pick up a Tyson Chandler-type player to give us a starting 5 of Felton-Mayo-Gallo-Amar'e-T. Chandler with Wil, Douglas, Fields, Mozgov coming off the bench for us which would be a great 9 man rotation

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    Originally Posted by SSj4Wingzero
    Again I see the merit in Iguodala but someone tell me just exactly how and why Iguodala is that much better than OJ Mayo.
    OJ Mayo is still somewhat of a project and doesn't really play D while Iggy is a defensive juggernaut. Their offensive numbers are almost the same...

    Originally Posted by SSj4Wingzero
    If anything we could trade for Mayo and then pick up a Tyson Chandler-type player to give us a starting 5 of Felton-Mayo-Gallo-Amar'e-T. Chandler with Wil, Douglas, Fields, Mozgov coming off the bench for us which would be a great 9 man rotation
    My only issue with bringing in a Center is that Amare is at his best when playing Center... I know he wants to play the 4 but there is no denying that his best numbers and his most productivity comes when he's at the 5.

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    Originally Posted by hometheaterguy
    My only issue with bringing in a Center is that Amare is at his best when playing Center... I know he wants to play the 4 but there is no denying that his best numbers and his most productivity comes when he's at the 5.
    Didn't Stat have a monster season at the 4 alongside Robin Lopez?

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    Originally Posted by Aristoteles
    I have the solution:

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    Knicks take SESSIONS VAREJAO
    Cleveland take TURIAF RAUTINS MASON AZUBUIKE

    We have all the pices now
    we can keep AR CHANDLER CURRY' CONTRACT

    GUARDS:
    Felton -Sessions
    Fields - Douglas
    Walker

    F/SF
    Gallo - Chandler - S. Williams

    PF/C
    Amare - Varejao - Mozgov
    I rarely like line up ideas but this one is pretty nice and realistic and cleveland might do it since honestly they know they have to scrap that team eventually. also while Turiaf is nice he hasn't been able to start at the 5, Verajao could which would allow Amare to play the 4 where he is beast. also with the Curry contract we could make moves to get a dynamic scorer since we would still have that as cap space and AR as a trade piece.
    Last edited by Wargames; Dec 22, 2010 at 06:53.

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