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I love Felton. Honestly I do, but if Paul is available, he is to good. Like Ron said, Paul is just on a whole another level. If Ray Ray can average 18 and 9, Paul would blow this system out of the water.
Melo is not top 10
Monta Eliis >>>>>>> Melo
Melo is not top 10
Monta Eliis >>>>>>> Melo
Wow dude.. You really have an insane amount to learn when it comes to players, their attributes and deficits.
There's just no way you can compare the impact Melo has on a game to what Ellis can bring to bare.
Melo is a world-class dominant scorer who w decent players around him can get you a 50 win season and a deep playoff run, by himself-- meaning w out another star player.
Ellis is a really good scorer on a bad team. That's it..
He is not of Melo's ilk. Stop.
Rona why is it that me and you are the only ones to understand that.
I can see where both of you guys are coming from, and agree. I can also understand where Knicksfan can say what he is saying. Yes, Ellis is a scorer on a bad team. Hopefully we all agree on that. On the other hand, IF Ellis were in a better system and good locker room leadership (ie, STAT since he's come to NY or Boston) Ellis could shake that label. Carmelo though is a much better all around player than Ellis. Rebounds at a higher rate, creates for others, AND scores the ball well. Like Rono said, Melo took a mediocre team to 50+ wins and the playoffs by himself. If Melo is a man of his word he waits it out till FAgency or forces Denver to deal him to NY at the deadline for pennies on the dollar so we can keep most of our lineup intact. If Melo is there and can be had at a reasonable price you go out and get him. For all we know the DLee deal over the summer may at one time have included Ellis but, I'm wagering a bet here that their GM valued him higher than his true value when you break down his game and stats and Donnie passed.
Ellis brings all the attention on offense that Melo brings he can score from all over the court and actually spreads the ball better than Melo. Some of you haven't seen Melo play only playoffs. Billups and Nene carry Melo year in and year out so far to the playoffs. Melo scores that's it. We are already the highest scoring offense but one of the lower defense teams and your idea is to bring in more offense.
Melo is sometimes a black hole on offense, Remember the Nuggets vs Knicks game how many times did Clyde say he ain't passing that up and Melo shot jumper after jumper. I even watched a few games on league pass this guy goes iso mode and keeps his head towards the rim no passes.
Damn son I would love the Day people think for themselves and stop letting the media tell them what to think.
We don't need no Melo. The crazy thing is a lot of people lobbying for Melo where saying Yellow Mellow and few months back. That sound familiar.
Go check metro's old thread and you'll see. Damn everyone just follows what ever player espn says we need
I can see where both of you guys are coming from, and agree. I can also understand where Knicksfan can say what he is saying. Yes, Ellis is a scorer on a bad team. Hopefully we all agree on that. On the other hand, IF Ellis were in a better system and good locker room leadership (ie, STAT since he's come to NY or Boston) Ellis could shake that label. Carmelo though is a much better all around player than Ellis. Rebounds at a higher rate, creates for others, AND scores the ball well. Like Rono said, Melo took a mediocre team to 50+ wins and the playoffs by himself. If Melo is a man of his word he waits it out till FAgency or forces Denver to deal him to NY at the deadline for pennies on the dollar so we can keep most of our lineup intact. If Melo is there and can be had at a reasonable price you go out and get him. For all we know the DLee deal over the summer may at one time have included Ellis but, I'm wagering a bet here that their GM valued him higher than his true value when you break down his game and stats and Donnie passed.
Yes your right I did call him Yellow Melo some months back. And I haven't been shy about pointing out his weaknesses. He aint my fav player, not even close. I haven't been shy bout that. But he would help us A LOT. I'm just trying to be being rational. You should try it.
It's not rational to say a scorer like Melo wouldn't help a team that likes to outscore people.. Our already prolificly effective scoring would reach uber effective status overnight almost. To me it's silly to deny that he wouldn't help us. Just like it's silly for you to think Ellis > Melo You just sound dumb.
If you make a list of the Top-10 Best Small Forwards in the league this season you get something like that:
LeBron James, Kevin Durant, Paul Pierce, CARMELO ANTHONY, Lamar Odom, Rudy Gay, Josh Smith, Andre Iguodala, Danny Granger and Michael Beasley.
If you make a list of the Top-10 Forwards it has to be similar to:
LeBron James, Dirk Nowitzki, Amare Stoudamire, Kevin Durant, Pau Gasol, Paul Pierce, CARMELO ANTHONY, Kevin Garnett, Blake Griffin and Kevin Love (yeah, i keep out Tim Duncan)
And if you make a list of the Top-10 overall you get:
LeBron James, Kobe Bryant, Amare Stoudamire, Dirk Nowitzki, Kevin Durant, Dwight Howard, Dwayne Wade, Chris Paul, Pau Gasol and Deron Williams. Right behind them there is just 3 players who could enter that list. Their names are Paul Pierce, Derrick Rose and... CARMELO ANTHONY. That's how good he is.
Paul Pierce? GTFOH
OKAY SO IF WE WANT MORE SCORING WHY NOT ELLIS HE IS A SCORER PLAIN AND SIMPLE MELO IS OVVERATED EVERONE KNOWS THIS. HE IS NOT A LEADER HE HASN'T LEAD HIS TEAM ANYWHERE. BILLUPS IS THE LEADER , WHAT HAPPEN WHEN A.I WAS ON THE TEAM HE DIDN'T LEAD THEM ANYWHERE.
WE DON'T NEED MELO
So a forward who can score from the post and beyond the arc almost at will, create his own shots, who's clutch, a good rebounder and defender and has strong leadership in a winning team is not enough for you to be considered among the best? Good to know.
If you make a list of the Top-10 Best Small Forwards in the league this season you get something like that:
LeBron James, Kevin Durant, Paul Pierce, CARMELO ANTHONY, Lamar Odom, Rudy Gay, Josh Smith, Andre Iguodala, Danny Granger and Michael Beasley.
If you make a list of the Top-10 Forwards it has to be similar to:
LeBron James, Dirk Nowitzki, Amare Stoudamire, Kevin Durant, Pau Gasol, Paul Pierce, CARMELO ANTHONY, Kevin Garnett, Blake Griffin and Kevin Love (yeah, i keep out Tim Duncan)
And if you make a list of the Top-10 overall you get:
LeBron James, Kobe Bryant, Amare Stoudamire, Dirk Nowitzki, Kevin Durant, Dwight Howard, Dwayne Wade, Chris Paul, Pau Gasol and Deron Williams. Right behind them there is just 3 players who could enter that list. Their names are Paul Pierce, Derrick Rose and... CARMELO ANTHONY. That's how good he is.