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    Default Knicks looking to trade JR Smith

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    Story going online now from @IanBegley & I: ESPN sources say Knicks, challenging as it sounds, have begun exploring J.R. Smith trade options
    JR to Detroit for Jonas Jerebko and 2nd round pick. Jerebko got 1 left plus a player option at 4.5 million. Addition by subtraction move for the Knicks. Detroit doesnt seem to conduct IQ tests prior to signings or trades

    Lets do it!!!

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    Like most Knick signings the front office made their bed and must lay in it. Teams see the real JR, walk the straight and narrow for a season, play your butt off and get paid by the Knicks. I don't see how you can trade a 30% shooter making 6M a year unless you package him with Shump or Timmy or picks we don't have.

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    OJ MAYO get it done

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    i dont think anyone will want him right now.. our best action would be to let him pick up his game so he could attract offers...

    if we were to keep him.. This damn potatoe head coach.. needs to stop playin him so damn much and play Tim hard. jr

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    Originally Posted by Number3
    i dont think anyone will want him right now.. our best action would be to let him pick up his game so he could attract offers...

    if we were to keep him.. This damn potatoe head coach.. needs to stop playin him so damn much and play Tim hard. jr

    Not a single team made JR an offer after he won 6th man award and put up his best career numbers......NOBODY WANTED HIM THEN AND NOBODY WANTS HIM NOW.....We are stuck with him ...

    the ONLY reason JR's antics even effect the Knicks is because WOOdy treats him like a superstar.......
    All the crap JR pulls this shoelace thing will be the straw that breaks the camels back for Woody ?????? The ONLY reason why Woody is speaking against JR is because the NBA made a big deal of it.....remember 5 days ago Woody was blaming Urich for passing to our 4th quarter PG ( JR ) AT THE TOP OF THE KEY WITH 18 SECONDS LEFT.....

    WOODY EMPOWERS JRS TO BE WHO HE IS....

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    Originally Posted by metrocard
    JR to Detroit for Jonas Jerebko and 2nd round pick. Jerebko got 1 left plus a player option at 4.5 million. Addition by subtraction move for the Knicks. Detroit doesnt seem to conduct IQ tests prior to signings or trades

    Lets do it!!!
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    I wasnt sold on trading Smith until all this happened. For a month now i've thought it'd make sense to trade JR before Shump and Hardaway. Im glad theres no more Shumpert trade rumors

    JR...Im still thankful for what he did last season. But ever since he disappeared in the playoffs he hasnt been the same and hes been a distraction to the team. I hope this happens, I'm about as excited as JR Smith on the 20th of April


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    As the great MSGKnicks33 once said....

    "F*ck Outta here"


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    Originally Posted by KingStarbury3
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    I wasnt sold on trading Smith until all this happened. For a month now i've thought it'd make sense to trade JR before Shump and Hardaway. Im glad theres no more Shumpert trade rumors

    JR...Im still thankful for what he did last season. But ever since he disappeared in the playoffs he hasnt been the same and hes been a distraction to the team. I hope this happens, I'm about as excited as JR Smith on the 20th of April


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    As the great MSGKnicks33 once said....

    "F*ck Outta here"


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    Notice how we started winning when Chris Smith was waived?

    I think the sooner we trade Smith, the sooner we become better.

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    Originally Posted by KingStarbury3
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    I wasnt sold on trading Smith until all this happened. For a month now i've thought it'd make sense to trade JR before Shump and Hardaway. Im glad theres no more Shumpert trade rumors

    JR...Im still thankful for what he did last season. But ever since he disappeared in the playoffs he hasnt been the same and hes been a distraction to the team. I hope this happens, I'm about as excited as JR Smith on the 20th of April


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    As the great MSGKnicks33 once said....

    "F*ck Outta here"


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    I was pulling for J.R. for a while. He seemed to make a lot of progress as a player and a person. I disliked Woodson as the coach more than J.R.'s play, but this dirty play, tweeting he always did that, and doing it the next game made me had it with him too. The Instagram thing about his brother also was bad.
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    JR Smith is literally untradeable under any circumstances to any team unless we are forcing another team to take him while they also steal from us yet another 1st round pick or Shump/THJ for nothing. This is literally the most unbelievable rumor in the history of sports that we are trying to shop JR today.

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    2one should be Felton two ballhoggers and two dribblers which bring nothing but TO's

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    Originally Posted by skisloper
    Not a single team made JR an offer after he won 6th man award and put up his best career numbers......NOBODY WANTED HIM THEN AND NOBODY WANTS HIM NOW.....We are stuck with him ...

    the ONLY reason JR's antics even effect the Knicks is because WOOdy treats him like a superstar.......
    All the crap JR pulls this shoelace thing will be the straw that breaks the camels back for Woody ?????? The ONLY reason why Woody is speaking against JR is because the NBA made a big deal of it.....remember 5 days ago Woody was blaming Urich for passing to our 4th quarter PG ( JR ) AT THE TOP OF THE KEY WITH 18 SECONDS LEFT.....

    WOODY EMPOWERS JRS TO BE WHO HE IS....

    So so true .. .. lastseason JR & Felton looked somewhat decent bc Jason Kidd veteran-influence to lower the "Turn-Overs" in our guard-rotation worked so well, especially in the 4th quarter of each game, where it was Kidds decision-making on the court for the final 8 minutes of a game.

    There are 2 reasons why I dont believe the Knicks are shopping JR.smith:
    1) ISO-Melo recruited JR.smith to become a Knicks at a time when we really didnt need JR services.
    2) We dont have a president GM, or an assistant GM to make wise small trade moves.

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    I'll trade a second round pick just to get JR off this team, thats how badly I want him off.

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    Originally Posted by metrocard
    I'll trade a second round pick just to get JR off this team, thats how badly I want him off.

    A 2nd round pick is not the incentive someone is looking for..........

    JR is the spotlight solely by the way Woodson handles the situation......If Woody benches him he cannot hurt us on the court. If benching him humbles JR then maybe using him 18 minutes a game can be beneficial.....
    Instead.....Woody gives JR power....its the like the more JR does wrong on and off the court the more Woody embraces him......This all lies with Woody more then JR,,,,,,this is coaching 101.

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    hey JR..........GET THE F*CK OUTTA HERE!!!

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    Knicks bench J.R. Smith, but NBA's clown prince will be back soon enough

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    J.R. Smith has been fined for tweeting, untying opponents' shoes and violating the NBA's drug program -- all this season. (AP)


    Within days of [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] arriving armed with a historic $3 million contract, Zhejiang of the Chinese Basketball League had come to regret signing the clown prince of basketball. From unreasonable demands on the kind of car needed to curry him around the city, to skipping practices for shopping excursions in neighboring cities, to a relentless pattern of insubordination, Smith's bad act had never been worse.
    Perhaps his greatest excess of idiocy had been a weekend of running a room service bill into the proximity of $3,000, a source with direct knowledge told Yahoo Sports. He kept ordering food, stacking piles of trays upon trays – "just to see if they would keep bringing it to the room," the source said.
    All uneaten, all on the franchise's tab – all a window into a fool.
    Smith would be fined more than $1 million in that lockout season in China, which is some kind of stupid considering he had gone overseas on the desperate premise of a money grab. He has come back to the States, signed two free-agent contracts with the New York Knicks and soon will push $1 million in fines for his NBA career. He's been suspended for a reckless driving death and fights and drugs. He's 28-years old, and he's learned little in his life except how to use basketball to get over on everyone again and again.
    This time, it was [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] and the ire of a Knicks organization that has longed enabled – even encouraged – the most mean-spirited and pointless of behavior.
    Across 48 hours, the Knicks tried a different approach with Smith. First, they floated the empty threat of trading him. And then coach Mike Woodson benched him on Thursday night in [Only registered and activated users can see links. ].
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    The Knicks benched Smith for their victory over the Heat. (USA Today)

    Smith will be back again, and the Knicks will be at his mercy. After Smith was the NBA's Sixth Man of the Year last season, he found a sparse free-agent market over the summer. And, now, with a three-year, $18 million contract, knee surgery and a suspension to start the season, the Knicks couldn't even start a trade conversation on Smith without attaching a good, young player or a first-round draft pick to him.This is a different NBA financial climate, where teams are stingier than ever on awarding long-term, guaranteed money to those as combustible and unreliable as Smith. Smith's exodus is a non-starter and the Knicks know it.
    If Smith didn't have such an inflated opinion of himself, he'd probably know it, too. Everyone understands how this will go now: Smith will tell everyone that he needs to grow up, that he's let down his coach and teammates and fans. The Knicks will start to play him again, and it's just a matter of time until Smith's self-destructive act will resurface. Once again, he'll be ignorant to the score in the final seconds of a game – like the loss he cost the Knicks in Houston – or he'll get into trouble off the floor. Or probably both.
    After his release from prison four years ago, Smith sat inside a New Jersey country club, and told me how the death of his close friend, caused by Smith's recklessness behind the wheel, had changed his life. From the guilt over the death, to a summer in a prison cell, to wanting his young daughter to never have to keep reading about his misdeeds, Smith vowed to be a changed man.
    “I think I was a follower to an extent,” Smith told me. “If someone would ask me to do something that was on the borderline, more than likely I’d say, ‘OK, let’s go.’ Now, I think I see the bigger picture finally. …I think I need to mature and understand what I say before I say it, and what I do before I do it."
    He can make it sound so sincere, but the con never ends. J.R. Smith was raised in a suburban, middle-class home with two good parents and access to an excellent education. He had a tremendous high school coaching mentor – Dan Hurley at St. Benedict's Prep in Newark, N.J. – and he has long been taught the difference of right and wrong. Smith's always loved to play the part of a tough city kid, but truth be told, he's a soft, spoiled suburban jump-shooter.
    And when Smith's benching ends with these Knicks, there will be no epiphanies. No revelations. Everyone knows how this story ends with him, how the money will dry up and how he'll wish he had done everything so differently in his career. It is sad and predictable and on a collision course with cliche.
    Someday, Smith will make that call to room service – insisting upon more of everything – and there will be no one to answer. J.R. Smith is 28-years old, and it is too late to threaten and punish a spoiled, suburban kid. No trade, no epiphanies, no changes. The Knicks deserve J.R. Smith, and he'll belong to them until the bitter end.

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