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This trade works...I would be more for this because we would next year have a $13 million trade chip in Billups next season, helping us retain cap flexibility and gives us the ability to make one more move next year.
However, I fear Billups literally collapsing on the floor b/c of the up-and-down pace of D'Antoni.
no. you do pretty much whatever it takes to get melo. as long as you dont give up more than 4 or 5 people and as long as you dont get rid of stoudemire. its obvious teams need at least 2 superstars to win titles..you get the superstars AND THEN you get the role players to encompass them. not the other way around! you dont get the role players first and then throw a start into the mix. if the knicks arent trying viciously to get this deal done, their judgement is MORTALLY impaired.
and theres no excuse to not get him. this is totally different than lebron. melo has made it 100% crystal clear that he wants to play in his HOMELAND in the basketball mecca. lebron always maliciously beat around the bush when he would praise ny so he could get ny excited. melo, however, is making it SPARKLING CLEAR. and we have no excuse to not get him.
I'll do it, just give me the dynamite....
But we really need to be honest here setting up a big three in their primes is hard to do capwise. Until this playoff season is over we won't even be able to judge if a team of three elites and some role players/Garbage work players can compete for a chip. Also if the league create a franchise tag or alters the MLE (be removing it or making it available only once every two years) the Heat and teams like them are screwed. Now don't get me wrong I realize you got to make that deal to get Melo because if we get him that opens up more moves for us. But you can't give them all away their is no guarantee that the Knicks will be able to replace them with workable pieces, and the way the new contracts are going to be built there is not guarantee that we could even if we wanted make a big three.
Nobody is arguing that role players are harder to get than superstars, that is an idiotic argument.
But if we trade all our pieces in one shot for Carmelo, we will be plucking from the bottom of the barrel for roleplayers, we won't have the $ to even sign Raymond Felton-level players. We will be stuck with a team of a ton of Roger Mason Jr.-type guys. If we had LeBron-Wade-Bosh maybe that would work, but Carmelo-STAT-Garbage Role players isn't half as good as Wade-James-Bosh-Garbage Role Players. If we trade all our guys just for Melo and get nothing else that is tradeable back, you can forget about D12 or CP3.
your fear of breaking up the family is hilarious. we SUCK. theres no reason to be apprehensive if we trade some guys for melo. we're a garbage team right now and getting a superstar like melo is imperative. we'll have role players GOOD ENOUGH to play alongside stat and melo..plus if we trade away "everybody" like you say then thats a lot of money comin off the books isnt it? plus we'd be SIGNING chris paul, not trading for him
hell, curry is getting paid 11 mil for this season alone
id rather have melo, stat, and "garbage" role players than stat and a bunch of below average role players stinkin up the joint (which is what we have right now)
I understand you would rather melo, STAT and trash than what we have now. But if we get Melo Stat and trash that is ALL we will have, never having the chance to add more significant pieces and make a finals. So if you are happy with the #4-5 seed yearly, then that's fine. Better than what we have now, but not competing for a title, ever.