I agree that having other elite defensive players helps you play better defense yourself. When you don't have to focus on covering for other players' lapses you can focus more on your own man, that's just logic. Having more defensive minded players on the roster would certainly help guys like STAT who've never been known to be strong defensively, no doubt about it.
But the problem lies in the coach's philosophical approach to the game, because of his high emphasis on playing uptempo and high octane scoring, the types of players that Donnie Walsh targets is sorta limited. His rotations are also often determined by the players that can hit open jumpers and bring something offensively to the table. Yes, it's true he's playing Ronny Turiaf and has played guys like Jared Jeffries in the past, but that was out of absolute necessity. No coach is going to only play offensive minded players, but in general their rotations are directly influenced by the type of system they want to run. Ben Wallace became a defensive star player in Detroit playing for Larry Brown because he had a defensive approach, a defensive philosophy to the system he was trying to run. Wallace would never have had that same opportunity if he'd stayed in Orlando because the system they were running was more offensively oriented.
Obviously the onus is on every player to apply the skills that they are taught, but if you're not being taught these skills how does one learn is the issue I'm arguing here. STAT said himself ‘I took it upon myself to get better defensively’ but he also added that Coach Gentry played a big role in taking on that new mindset ‘He really implemented some strategies that were helpful to me. I took what I learned last year and carried it over to this year.'
Like you said yourself it is a problem if STAT was never taught D in the NBA. I think it points to a general lack of importance that D'Antoni places on that aspect of the game. Not to say that he tells his guys NOT to play defense obviously & not even to say that he never coaches defense at all, but in general he needs to drill a much bigger emphasis on that aspect of the game if he expects his players to up their effort.
I found this piece interesting and I think you mean Terry Porter Statmvp:
AMARE STOUDEMIRE: THE BAD DEFENSE ISN’T MY FAULT
BY AUSTIN BURTON
Amare Stoudemire, Dime #14
In an interview with a Phoenix Suns TV program, Amare Stoudemire praises new coach Terry Porter while taking a backhanded swipe at Mike D’Antoni:
“I love Terry Porter, his method,” Stoudemire says in the interview. “His way of coaching is going to be great for us. You know, he’s extremely focused on the defensive end, something that we haven’t practiced at all in the previous three years, and now we’re definitely practicing and improving on the defensive end.”
Now from a team standpoint, I can almost believe STAT’s claim that D’Antoni didn’t practice defense. I’ve talked to Team USA players like D-Wade and Carlos Boozer about the way D’Antoni would perk up in practice when it came time to work on offense, but was almost invisible during defensive time. But never one defensive drill in three years? He didn’t have an assistant whose job was to focus on defense?
And if Amare is looking to blame D’Antoni for his own personal defensive deficiencies, he’s in the wrong. At the pro level, every player has to take it upon himself to improve individual parts of his game, including defense. I’m sure D’Antoni’s lessons didn’t include, “Stand straight up while Mehmet Okur blows by you for a dunk.”
I'm in agreement w the above..
rono, STAT directly referenced Coach Gentry's name in the quote I referenced
I don't know what Terry Porter taught him but the article you referenced is just further proof that MDA placed so little importance on drilling the defensive aspect of the game in STAT's eyes. That to me is a major problem.‘I’ve got to give it to Alvin Gentry,’ Stoudemire added. ‘He really implemented some strategies that were helpful to me. I took what I learned last year and carried it over to this year.’”
But i will not admit that Mike D isn't effective on the defensive end when his old Phoenix teams were consistently ranked middle of the pack in defense per 100 possessions. These are results and statistical facts the both of you seem to conveniently ignore while continuing to post, and believe unwaveringly, nonsensical quotes from a player who by all accounts disliked our coach up until this summer. Lame.
STATS quote and my stats don't jibe guys. What say you??
With good enough players, similar focus and results w D-rating and the uber productive scoring star players will bring, that could be enough to win a chip.
Last edited by ronoranina; Feb 20, 2011 at 19:29.
This is what you asked Kblack a few pages back: "What exactly do you see with this team defensively?"
I posted clear statistical evidence that support Mike D can get results defensively.
Now you push the goal post farther(ty Isayyugh) by calling said results "average".
I even showed how our team has improved from last year to this year and all you can continue to do is cling to those thin, at best, remarks from STAT, who we all kno sux @defense.
I'm sorry to say it, but you really are an awful poster Clydeandthepearl..
Last edited by ronoranina; Feb 20, 2011 at 19:15.
Dude, they're in this f*cking thread. Clyde prolly didn't read my post either.. Here, read and learn:
Last edited by ronoranina; Feb 20, 2011 at 19:42.
I know you think I'm awful. Hey what can I say. Your spinning, whirling and circumventing doesn't work with me. I cant help if your argument is lost and you're yet to realize it. I'll let STAT continue to own you from this point forward. He's doing an excellent job of it. I'm actually tired of beating up on you and Black.
Enjoy tonight's All star game...