MDA is a funny dude, and quick with his quotes. Humor -- and picking up on it -- being one of the most clear, plain to decipher metrics for gauging the intelligence of someone, or lack thereof, and...well...(pause)...
Is it any surprise that most people who believe premier, award-winning NBA coach Mike D'antoni (a defensive pro baller in his own right) doesn't like defense, know how to play defense, or teach defense....Also had to watch Gallo go to the line 15x/game for month before hesitantly declaring and letting everyone know that he might have more than one skill....
Or that this crowd's mascot believes Herb Williams would save us and have us at .600
These jibronies openly admit to not even watching videos proving their assertions wrong. Smh, loll...
Videos....Lord have mercy if plain King's English text is written and asked to be read and comprehended.
This is basically Rocky V.
Clyde'sPearlNecklace is the mullet-haired meathead. The scummy charlatan promoter with the poorly styled fur coats (who actually thinks he's styling) and who pumps his ego up, then ditches him to get caned by Balboa in the end is Ginger..err, Red.
As we know, the mullet haired punk got some smoke blown up his ass, thought he had the backing of a legitimate powerbroker, and greedily (ignorantly) kept stepping to Balboa. Despite no good reason, and the fata compli of a WWF smackdown.
"That fact the stat adjusts for pace is the exact reason its relevant to our team due to how we play"
If you think about the way we play, our offense does force teams to play our style. They have to play at our pace. Which means we'll have inflated points against numbers thruout a given season. But the fact d-rating eliminates pace as a factor for the teams we play against makes our d rating all the more relevant and more significant than other stats. It's saying here's what your doing on average against other teams defensively having adjusted for the fact you play a fast pace. It's a more accurate representation of how well we play defense, which is why it applies so well.
So you're wrong. The fact we play a faster pace makes our D-rating more relevant.
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Do you think he's not happy? Do you think he's not excelling? Do you think he's hopefully waiting for MDA to get the boot?
So the team is in its early stages of development. If this is so true how do you explain the overall offensive prowess of this team. I mean they're rated #2 in offense in the NBA. Please explain to us all why they're so good offensively, but struggle on defense if they're still developing so much.
I doubt we'll improve this much, but 13th-17th wont be good enough for a chip. I think it was this thread where I pointed out all the teams but two that have won chips since 1973 or 1974 were rated top ten in defense.
Ron if JVG had this same exact team would they play better defensively? Yes or No...
Honestly C&TP. I can't argue w you anymore tnite. I've said where I stand clearly, posted evidence and debunked most of what you've been selling. Frankly I'm a bit tired & frustrated w you. Now I know how Kblack feels..
But I will say this..
Mike D made it to the conference finals twice and the the conf semifinals in three consecutive yrs w the Suns, w out a ten man rotation and a worse overall roster than we're likely to have if we get Melo and Paul along w Donnie making other shrewd acquisitions.
If he gets enough talent to utilize a 10th man rotation, continues to grow in the area of D-rating, and our FO acquires Melo and Paul/ D-Will I think we can get alittle closer than those Suns teams. I believe maybe we can even win a chip. This is where I stand.
And w the current roster I'm not sure we'd be that much better defensively w JVG, but we sure wouldn't score like we do. That much I can tell you.
Well, yea we'd definitely be a little better. I can't front..
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on JVG: I think we'd be better defensively but not nearly as fluid on offense. We wouldn't be a .500 team. and honestly, without D'antoni, i'm not sure we get Amar'e to play here.
I always liked JVG as a coach and thought he was great for the knicks. Tho many people called for his head early and often. NY is the most unforgiving city on it's head coaches. I think this is just par for the course really. Every knicks fan thinks he could do a better job as head coach.
Currently our team, using the Points Per Possession rating, is 21st in the league defensively (bottom third). They have a win differential is .4 a game (which I believe is a lot more telling). The differential tells me you are going to be right around the .500 mark if the law of averages hold. It also means, that games could go one way or another; aka, we could have just as easily lost more games than we won. Essentially, when we step on the court, it is a coin toss whether we win or not.
That's not a good thing.
So, we've played Amar'e 40 minutes a game, run him down, run down the rest of the team, for a record just barely over .500. The costs are not worth the mark, in my opinion, which is my problem with MDA's system.
It will get only worse as the season runs along.
MDA's system may be better in a 41 game season, but 82 games and play-offs... just don't think it happens.
You look at teams like the Bulls, who have some better defensive players, but also boasts Carlos Boozer (who is playing MUCH better defense) because of the Coach. The Spurs are playing great defense, despite having a bunch of players that are average and below average defenders.
Coaching makes a huge difference. D'Antoni has been credited as saying he is always going to try and outscore his opponents and worry about defensive later down the line, if at all. It's not a sustainable system for one or multiple championships.
I think we just traded all of Mike D'Antni's excuses. No wonder he was against this trade.Anyway, two big stars can be quite enough, thank you. Oklahoma City is doing just fine with two, Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook. The Utah Jazz did just fine for about a dozen years with two. Hell, Chicago has just one, Derrick Rose, and a terrific ensemble cast tearing up the league right now. The number of stars on hand ain't the Knicks' issue.
But I know two things that are:
The Knicks are lousy defensively and coach Mike D'Antoni is allergic to his own bench. These things aren't debatable. They're facts already entered into evidence.
In fact, bad defense and a lack of depth are both things associated with D'Antoni teams, as in all of them. Talk to guys who played for the Suns during the terrific playoff runs Phoenix made to reach the Western Conference finals, and they'll tell you under oath that the Suns paid less attention to defense than any other good team in the league. The Suns and now the Knicks are going to try to outscore you, which is even more difficult in the Eastern Conference than it is in the West, and neither Stoudemire nor Anthony is overly concerned with defense. That's going to hurt, beginning in the short term, as in the stretch run and the playoffs this spring. Different as the top three teams in the Eastern Conference are, the one thing the Celtics, Heat and Bulls all have in common is they can shut you down. The Knicks ... not so much. Some of the pressure, then, is going to be on D'Antoni, who is going to have to find some reserves he can trust among the players already on hand. Take the aforementioned Mason, for instance. Yes, he fell off dramatically last year but was still good enough to play in 161 of 164 games the past two seasons for Gregg Popovich. It's unlikely he completely forgot how to play or shoot. Yet, under D'Antoni, Mason doesn't play at all. Ever. Eighty-two games two seasons ago, 10 games this season. D'Antoni is going to have to trust his bench and develop a player or two who are still unproven, perhaps Corey Brewer, perhaps Andy Rautins. In the meantime, he's going to have to rely on Shawne Williams (who, to be fair, has produced with a great shooting season), Shelden Williams, Toney Douglas and the like off the bench. Personally, I'll take the Knicks' reserves over what Miami has right now.
I fully expect D'Antoni to be fired by the end of next year. We will not win a championship with this roster. Not even close. The coach will take the fall. Another coach will come in and we will not win a championship. That coach will be fired. And by then Melo and Amare's contracts are up.
It's the endless cycle that is New York sports.