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Thread: With the final proposal, are the knicks better with or without Melo? Make your call

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    Thumbs up With the final proposal, are the knicks better with or without Melo? Make your call

    "The Nuggets appear to be closing in on a deal to trade star forward Carmelo Anthony to the New York Knicks.

    The teams talked through the weekend and are working out the final details of what would be a blockbuster trade. NBA commissioner David Stern did not want a major trade announced on the day of the All-Star Game.
    While final details were still being negotiated, the latest trade offer includes New York sending guard Raymond Felton, forwards Wilson Chand-ler and Danilo Gallinari, centers Timofey Mozgov and Eddy Curry and a first-round draft pick to the Nuggets for Anthony, Chauncey Billups, Shelden Williams and Anthony Carter or Renaldo Balkman, according to NBA sources.
    "I said I hoped to have a word by today, one way or another," Anthony said Sunday after the All-Star Game at the Staples Center. "I've been up early dealing with this and all the festivities, but the night is still young on this side (of the country)."



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    I VOTE, WE ARE BETTER WITH MELO.....DUH!

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    I gotta agree, as much as I hate giving Denver everyone, we would be good with Melo. But at this Point with everything I couldnt careless if we get Carmelo or not

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    I want Balkman!

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    Originally Posted by StEpHoN_mArBuRy
    I want Balkman!
    I'm right there with you.

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    I think this deal is done by 8:00 tonight and we keep moz.

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    The Knicks are better with 'Melo.

    But they could be better if they worked out a better deal for him.

    In the end, I'm sure they'll find a way to make it work.

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    Billups better not beef about coming to NY. He can still ball, better than Ray, it's all on him. By himself Melo is not worth all these guys, Denver got a very good deal.

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    Default Mozgov?

    When did Mozgov become part of the deal?

    Without Mozgov, one could argue that even if we got Melo as a free agent we would have to give up Chandler because of his cap hold and that, therefore, were were essentially trading Melo for Gallinari and Billups for Felton. I have never been a Felton fan -- he shoots too much, and not that well, for a point guard. Even though I really like Gallinari and will be disappointed to see him go, Melo is plainly an upgrade at SF.

    The down side is that Melo and Amar'e shoot a lot, and need the ball. Melo, particularly, is a ball movement stopper. And neither plays much defense. Moreover, Melo's and Amar'e's contracts will soon be over a combined $40M per year. We are going to have real cap problems going forward.

    If Mozgov is added to the trade, this is an Isiah like move. I do not like it. I would have preferred to just wait and I would not really care if Melo went to the Nets. I enjoy watching a developing "team." I do not believe that Melo is going to make us an elite team.

    I expect the trade to happen, but I cannot believe that Mozgov will be added to Gallinari, Chandler and Felton. With the max contracts for Amar'e and Melo and an expected reduction in cap space uner a new CBA, I do not see cap room for any third "star."

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    No, an Isiah move would be trading these guys for Kevin Martin. At least Melo is a legit superstar.

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    Originally Posted by tiger0330
    Billups better not beef about coming to NY. He can still ball, better than Ray, it's all on him. By himself Melo is not worth all these guys, Denver got a very good deal.
    This.

    Imo Billups is the key whether this trade will be a good one or not. We all know that Melo can ball, but you still need a solid PG and a solid bench /legit big man to have success in this league.

    I'm not a big Felton fan, but what I have seen from Billups this season ain't hyping me up about him coming to NYC....and there is talk about him not wanting to get traded...he might turn into a huge bust here.

    I don't have a good feeling about this trade. I want Melo no doubt, but I think our offer is too much. I'd like to keep either Chandler or Felton or at least involve Telfair or Ridnour in that Minnesota deal to get another PG in case Billups flops.

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    I tentatively vote YES, but (crosspost):

    But this is some bull****. And I don't blame Melo.

    We should have taken it on ourselves to be the biggest mensch in this situation.

    Melo doesn't "deserve" ****, really. Coming to MSG, joining a contender, and being worth 150M and god knows what else in future endorsements...That is what we could have offered him, and if he doesn't think he deserves that....well, **** outta luck son, have fun in a NJ basement and look at your bank account after ever lame season loss and get a therapist to make you feel better about it.

    I personally don't think he'd do this. He would come here, regardless of not getting his "dream" desire. Because we still offer the dream, the best dream, even if it's not sating his every whim.

    This is us bending over, desperation style, cloying for him. Weakness, crumpled solidity, desperation, internal conflict...this infiltrated our negotiations and front office. Surprise surprise.

    It's not that is trade isn't better for our franchise (I think it is), or that Melo won't be tremendous (I think he will be).

    But the loss of respect, trust, and dignity it represents. And the loss of a much shrewder, superior plan. Which still included Melo.

    Finally, this bodes horribly for us ever actually winning a chip, IMHO. Especially if Walsh now goes. This isn't going to make us mint. And the way we went about this, in the end, shouldn't inspire confidence in anyone that we make the necessary future moves to actually be a legit contender in this day's NBA.

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    The Knicks are better this season without Melo....

    The Knicks have done a fairly well (great-job) with their new players meshing together. The brewing chemistry of young-players Douglas, Fields, Gallo, Chandler, and Turiaf on offense/defense has been a rewarding performance from a group of outstanding role-players in their first season together.
    Over 80% of the mistakes and flaws we seen early in the season from this group of role-players has dissapeared from their team performance.

    Should this group of high velocity role-players be given a 2nd-season to improve their team-chemistry for next season?
    The Knicks been lacking a defensive presence in the paint to stop oponents from scoring in the paint. Does adding Melo fix this problem?
    The Knicks been getting outrebounded all season by oponents. does adding Carmelo help this problem? when our SG rookie Landry Fields average more rebounds than Carmelo.

    Amare is the Knicks high scoring Foward, does the Knicks need another high scoring foward or a high scoring Guard?
    If u had the choice of trading Eddy Curry contract on the deadline for SF-Melo or SG-Ellis to add to the Knicks, which player would be your choice???

    P.S. Douglas & Fields defensive pressure backing-up Felton & Ellis would be the start of a dynamic 4-Guard backcourt rotation.


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    we can't deal Rayray

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