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    Media isnt this the truth!

    You know, down don’t bother me.”
    ALBERT KING
    [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] fans have apparently become so starved for success that O.K. is great and mediocre is the accepted norm.
    This is the sense you get from listening to fans and watching the foot-dragging by the Knicks’ so-called brain trust over the [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] situation: .500 is O.K.
    The Knicks need Anthony. He knows it, the Knicks know it.
    They need him at any price, because the price will pale in comparison with what the Knicks will eventually get in return: the chance, at long last, to compete for an [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] championship.
    That great day will not happen for the Knicks as currently constituted — and this includes the coach and team president.
    Anthony is one of the N.B.A.’s top 10 players and one of its [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]. He would make a good team great and, along with Amar’e Stoudemire, would anchor a Knicks franchise that hasn’t won a championship in 38 years.
    Now the Knicks, who are [Only registered and activated users can see links. ], have an opportunity to go from O.K. to outstanding. But there is resistance.

    How can the Knicks’ front office hold this up? How can the Knicks continue to play their fans for suckers? The better question is, how can Knicks fans let them?
    For two years leading up to the [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] sweepstakes, [Only registered and activated users can see links. ], the Knicks’ president, and [Only registered and activated users can see links. ], the coach, told fans not to worry. Ignore the losses, they said, because they were clearing salary cap space for James. When James picked Miami, the Knicks scrambled and got Stoudemire to keep the fans at bay. But now that they can add a superstar who would push the Knicks over the top, Walsh and D’Antoni have opted to dribble, not shoot.
    Who is stonewalling, and why?
    Certainly not [Only registered and activated users can see links. ], the Madison Square Garden chairman, who clearly wants Anthony in the fold. That leaves Walsh and D’Antoni, although the team [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] saying Dolan, Walsh and D’Antoni were on the same page.
    “We want to make it abundantly clear that we have been in constant communication throughout this process and the three of us are in complete agreement with everything that we are currently working on,” the statement said.
    The reality is quite different.
    If he hasn’t already, Dolan should summon Walsh and D’Antoni and tell them that if they mess this up, if Anthony is not a Knick by the end of the week (the trade deadline is Thursday), the clock will be ticking on their tenures as Knicks employees.
    The clock should be ticking anyway after this foolishness. If they pass on Anthony, the Knicks will once again be steaming toward another port of mediocrity.
    What is the Knicks’ brain trust thinking? Or better yet, why do they seem to be playing scared?
    What are Walsh and D’Antoni afraid of? That expectations will suddenly soar and that Knicks fans will no longer look at the their team as the Little Engine That Could but rather as the Diesel Engine That Had Better?
    D’Antoni talks about the future, but is he really talking about his future, his job security? Better to be celebrated for hovering around .500 than being expected to win championships. He can fashion a high-scoring carnival act of a team that scores plenty of points and also allows plenty.
    Critics say Anthony does not play defense. But D’Antoni doesn’t coach defense, so it’s a perfect marriage. The Knicks score an average of 106.2 points a game, second in the N.B.A. to Denver. However, the Knicks allow an average of 105.8. Only one team, Minnesota, is worse. The Knicks’ system is great for statistics and for players in a contract year but not for players interested in winning championships.
    You know, down don’t bother me.”
    ALBERT KING
    [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] fans have apparently become so starved for success that O.K. is great and mediocre is the accepted norm.
    This is the sense you get from listening to fans and watching the foot-dragging by the Knicks’ so-called brain trust over the [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] situation: .500 is O.K.
    The Knicks need Anthony. He knows it, the Knicks know it.
    They need him at any price, because the price will pale in comparison with what the Knicks will eventually get in return: the chance, at long last, to compete for an [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] championship.
    That great day will not happen for the Knicks as currently constituted — and this includes the coach and team president.
    Anthony is one of the N.B.A.’s top 10 players and one of its [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]. He would make a good team great and, along with Amar’e Stoudemire, would anchor a Knicks franchise that hasn’t won a championship in 38 years.
    Now the Knicks, who are [Only registered and activated users can see links. ], have an opportunity to go from O.K. to outstanding. But there is resistance.

    How can the Knicks’ front office hold this up? How can the Knicks continue to play their fans for suckers? The better question is, how can Knicks fans let them?
    For two years leading up to the [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] sweepstakes, [Only registered and activated users can see links. ], the Knicks’ president, and [Only registered and activated users can see links. ], the coach, told fans not to worry. Ignore the losses, they said, because they were clearing salary cap space for James. When James picked Miami, the Knicks scrambled and got Stoudemire to keep the fans at bay. But now that they can add a superstar who would push the Knicks over the top, Walsh and D’Antoni have opted to dribble, not shoot.
    Who is stonewalling, and why?
    Certainly not [Only registered and activated users can see links. ], the Madison Square Garden chairman, who clearly wants Anthony in the fold. That leaves Walsh and D’Antoni, although the team [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] saying Dolan, Walsh and D’Antoni were on the same page.
    “We want to make it abundantly clear that we have been in constant communication throughout this process and the three of us are in complete agreement with everything that we are currently working on,” the statement said.
    The reality is quite different.
    If he hasn’t already, Dolan should summon Walsh and D’Antoni and tell them that if they mess this up, if Anthony is not a Knick by the end of the week (the trade deadline is Thursday), the clock will be ticking on their tenures as Knicks employees.
    The clock should be ticking anyway after this foolishness. If they pass on Anthony, the Knicks will once again be steaming toward another port of mediocrity.
    What is the Knicks’ brain trust thinking? Or better yet, why do they seem to be playing scared?
    What are Walsh and D’Antoni afraid of? That expectations will suddenly soar and that Knicks fans will no longer look at the their team as the Little Engine That Could but rather as the Diesel Engine That Had Better?
    D’Antoni talks about the future, but is he really talking about his future, his job security? Better to be celebrated for hovering around .500 than being expected to win championships. He can fashion a high-scoring carnival act of a team that scores plenty of points and also allows plenty.
    Critics say Anthony does not play defense. But D’Antoni doesn’t coach defense, so it’s a perfect marriage. The Knicks score an average of 106.2 points a game, second in the N.B.A. to Denver. However, the Knicks allow an average of 105.8. Only one team, Minnesota, is worse. The Knicks’ system is great for statistics and for players in a contract year but not for players interested in winning championships.
    Knicks fans have bought into the Walsh-D’Antoni line that “we can’t get Carmelo because we don’t want to lose our core; we can’t mortgage our future for one player.”
    What core? What future? Who is there not to give up? Stoudemire is the only Knick who is not expendable.
    Danilo Gallinari? Wilson Chandler? Fine players, those two, but they are not approaching All-Star status and perhaps never will. They are complementary players, and complementary players, while essential to a team’s success, come a dime a dozen.
    Players like Anthony do not.
    Look around the N.B.A. Every outstanding team has at least two great players and the subsequent luxury of being able to add complementary pieces each season. If the Knicks put Anthony alongside Stoudemire, they too could be in a position to begin adding complementary pieces — and maybe another star. The Knicks could finally have a three-headed monster.
    But first they need Anthony.
    How do you not make this move if you are the Knicks? How do you not demand this move if you are a Knicks fan?
    Look around the N.B.A. Every outstanding team has at least two great players and the subsequent luxury of being able to add complementary pieces each season. If the Knicks put Anthony alongside Stoudemire, they too could be in a position to begin adding complementary pieces — and maybe another star. The Knicks could finally have a three-headed monster.
    But first they need Anthony.
    How do you not make this move if you are the Knicks? How do you not demand this move if you are a Knicks fan?



    this is the paragraph that i like most out of this article:

    Knicks fans have bought into the Walsh-D’Antoni line that “we can’t get Carmelo because we don’t want to lose our core; we can’t mortgage our future for one player.”
    What core? What future? Who is there not to give up? Stoudemire is the only Knick who is not expendable.
    Danilo Gallinari? Wilson Chandler? Fine players, those two, but they are not approaching All-Star status and perhaps never will. They are complementary players, and complementary players, while essential to a team’s success, come a dime a dozen.
    Players like Anthony do not.

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    poor editing on this article, clean it up a bit.

    also, while not making the deal was never an option, not having to give up the entire roster was not on our agenda either. we had leverage and we squandered it, now it's going to come down to the wire and we will give up many pieces to get carmelo. I think the plan now is to stay just flexible enough to pick up CP3 in 2012. the 3 headed monster of cp3/melo/amar'e will make us title contenders at the very least.

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    Originally Posted by p0nder
    poor editing on this article, clean it up a bit.

    also, while not making the deal was never an option, not having to give up the entire roster was not on our agenda either. we had leverage and we squandered it, now it's going to come down to the wire and we will give up many pieces to get carmelo. I think the plan now is to stay just flexible enough to pick up CP3 in 2012. the 3 headed monster of cp3/melo/amar'e will make us title contenders at the very least.
    Yep, and the funny thing is...that was always the plan. Keeping Chandler, Gallo, and Felton would stand in the way of getting CP3 or D-Will. So it's a matter of lose all of them now or lose one now and the other two later?

    And with the pieces we pick up, the flexibility is still in place in 2012. I think the real issue is the fact that people don't really like change and they'd rather see the players they were cheering for, for the long haul. That was never going to happen.

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    you know whats funny is, I have heard walsh quoted as saying he doesnt want to blow up the core of the team, but by no means have I heard any quotes stating that walsh wont blow up the core for melo.

    I repeat
    walsh has said I"dont" want to blow up the core
    He never said I "will not by any means" blow up the core.

    now pay attention and read carefully.

    Every one has let the media fixate them on the knicks working against the grain, including the author of this article.

    In reality if you look at what has to be done, Walsh has been respectful to who is already in a knicks jersey, out of fear if the deal some how doesnt get done, i.e. nuggets brass refuses to trade melo the knicks out of spite, you still have to suit up these core players for the remainder of what potentially should be a playoff bound season. LAst thing walsh would ever say, or any good GM for that matter, is "of course we want to blow up our core, these guys are mediocre at best, Cant wait to get rid of them"

    how can you not see the writing ont he wall, in that walsh has to play the respect game, for that just in case its not 100 percent melo is a knick outcome.

    how would you feel if your boss said

    wow we got this chance to get a big wig executive in
    but I have to fire 25 percent of the office to get him here.

    soooo, you you and you ! youre expendable peace.

    then a week later the executive goes to another office

    and youre stuck at work knowing your boss just threw you under the bus in front of the entire league.

    I knwo these guys are professionals, and make alot of money, but its clear that they have an affection for the knicks, and dont want to leave.

    I Respect walsh for respecting them, but in the end I feel walsh knows he will have to do whatever it takes for melo

    despite the medias translation of his inability to rip his currently rostered players as an inability to do what it takes to land a star.

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