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    Default Your Playoff Prediction: How far can we go w our 2 stars?

    Right now were 28-26 and slotted currently as a 6th seed. The team w the 5th seed is Atlanta w a record of 34-21.

    It'll take some doing, but I think we can make push for the 5th seed w our current roster. If we really get hot there's Orlando at 36-21 to tackle. Not sure that's doable tho.

    The upcoming schedule for the remaining 28 games looks like this:

    Milwaukee Bucks
    @ Cleveland Cavaliers
    @Miami Heat
    @Orlando Magic
    New Orleans Hornets
    Cleveland Cavaliers
    @Atlanta Hawks
    Utah Jazz
    @Memphis Grizzlies
    @Dallas Mavericks
    Indiana Pacers
    @Indiana Pacers
    Memphis Grizzlies
    @Detroit Pistons
    @Milwaukee Bucks
    Boston Celtics
    Orlando Magic
    Milwaukee Bucks
    @Charlotte Bobcats
    Orlando Magic
    New Jersey Nets
    Cleveland Cavaliers
    Toronto Raptors
    @Philadelphia 76ers
    @New Jersey Nets
    @Indiana Pacers
    Chicago Bulls
    @Boston Celtics

    Seems a bit tough, but were built tough now. I say bring it. Let's knock Atlanta outta the box and give Dwight a run for his money. I think we go 19- 9 during this stretch for a season record of 47- 35.

    In the playoffs.. I think we can get past the 2nd round as currently constructed.

    We've got:

    Billups
    Fields
    Melo
    Amare
    Turiaf

    Douglas
    Walker
    Shawn Williams
    Sheldon Williams
    Brewer
    Mason
    Rautins
    Balkman
    Carter
    Azubuike

    Thoughts?
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    I think we can take out the Hawks or Magic in the 1st round if this team gels well down the stretch of the season, so I can easily see them advancing to the 2nd round. After that it depends on the matchup, if we're up against the Bulls then I think we got a shot, but I doubt we can beat the Heat or Celtics.

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    We will still end up in 6th place. Will play the Bulls in the first round. Will lose in the first round, but it will go 7 games.

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    Melo has only gotten past the 1st round twice in his career.

    He is no Michael Jordan or Kareem.

    We still need a big man or several like the Celtics have.

    Our depth just became pathetic and Isiah is the true GM.

    This is not good for the future of the Knicks.

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    Originally Posted by 1970KnicksLove
    Melo has only gotten past the 1st round twice in his career.

    He is no Michael Jordan or Kareem.

    We still need a big man or several like the Celtics have.

    Our depth just became pathetic and Isiah is the true GM.

    This is not good for the future of the Knicks.

    Chandler was gone after this season anyway so the immediate future would be

    Felton
    Fields
    Melo
    Amare
    Moz

    With Gallo coming off the bench

    Now we have

    Billups
    Fields
    Melo
    Amare
    Turiaf/Barron (Barron who did average 11 and 11 last season in 7 games)

    With Brewer and Shawne Williams (Better 3 point shooter than gallo) off the bench



    Now PLEASE tell me how this is not good for the future?


    Im SICK of people saying this isnt good for the future and either not backing it up or overrating the pieces that were never praised two weeks ago. This is just people trying to dump on this trade. Get over it, we are way better today, tomorrow and in 2 years

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    Well I think first and foremost we have to release Anthony Carter and Mason. Both are completely useless. Then ideally I would love for Balkman to somehow get off the team, Azu's contract, and maybe Billy Walker for Samuel Dalembert or Chris Kaman or even Marcus Camby/Przybilia.

    C- Camby
    PF- STAT
    SF- Melo
    SG- Fields
    PG- Billups

    6th Man: Brewer
    Turiaf
    Shawne Williams
    Shelden Williams
    Douglas
    Barron
    Rautins

    Id go to war with this group

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    Originally Posted by BreenForPrez
    Chandler was gone after this season anyway so the immediate future would be

    Felton
    Fields
    Melo
    Amare
    Moz

    With Gallo coming off the bench

    Now we have

    Billups
    Fields
    Melo
    Amare
    Turiaf/Barron (Barron who did average 11 and 11 last season in 7 games)

    With Brewer and Shawne Williams (Better 3 point shooter than gallo) off the bench



    Now PLEASE tell me how this is not good for the future?


    Im SICK of people saying this isnt good for the future and either not backing it up or overrating the pieces that were never praised two weeks ago. This is just people trying to dump on this trade. Get over it, we are way better today, tomorrow and in 2 years
    +1 Agree 100%

    There is NO WAY this trade is bad for the future. Some are probably just over rating the guys we lost, not to mention under rating the acquisition of a 2nd superstar in Melo.

    We would never of won a championship with just one star, it never has happened or will happen. We needed Melo, and just wait till this time next year to see who will follow STAT and Melo, then we can talk future...

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    Originally Posted by 1970KnicksLove
    Melo has only gotten past the 1st round twice in his career.

    He is no Michael Jordan or Kareem.

    We still need a big man or several like the Celtics have.

    Our depth just became pathetic and Isiah is the true GM.

    This is not good for the future of the Knicks.
    Just ignore him guys,he doesn't know what he's talking about.

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    Originally Posted by AmareForPresident
    Just ignore him guys,he doesn't know what he's talking about.
    Actually, he's not that far off! James carried many a horrible Cleveland squad into the playoffs on his back and to the finals... Melo has not. Amare, Billups and Melo does not trump James, Wade and Bosh nor do they trump Pierce, Garnett, Rondo and Allen.
    We will need size up front to support Amare! Amare does not play D and neither does MELO!!!! So, that being said we have a foundation to build on but we still need more pieces if we are going to beat Boston and stay competitive with Miami and the west over the next 5 years! We should be a competitive team; thank GOD we kept fields, and we should be fun to watch but we still have a few more moves to make to solidify this team as a bonafide contender for the championship.
    We need to sign DWIGHT HOWARD or DERON WILLIAMS; preferably Dwight. But if he ends up in LA; then Deron!

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    Look guys i'm a huge knicks fan, and they are my 2nd favorite team behind Miami but reality is there is now way they can win the eastern conference unless they become a defensive minded team. No team has ever gotten to the finals let alone won an nba championship focusing soley on offense so for the knicks to be able to compete with Bostons, the miami's and the chicago's they need to adapt a defensive mindset and D'antoni may not like it but those are the facts and Carmelo is purely a scorer nothing else really, while other top players in the league play both sides defense and offense. The knicks have a great offense but without defense it doesn't mean anything.

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    Originally Posted by 1970KnicksLove
    Melo has only gotten past the 1st round twice in his career.
    Melo has made the playoffs every year in the league including 2 WC finals without a second superstar. (no, an over the hill AI does not count)

    He is no Michael Jordan or Kareem.
    Melo is 26 and scores 25 and boards 8 per game ion his sleep. To even compare him to MJ or Kareem and draw a definitive conclusion is a joke. That said, no one is stating he is of that caliber but he is just a slight notch below and has the potential to attain that status if he can win some chips in NYC.

    We still need a big man or several like the Celtics have.
    Correct...STILL need as in we were already getting dominated on the boards and in the paint therefore this is a constant and irrelevant to this trade. If anything Melo is a big upgrade with regards to rebounding over Gallo.

    Our depth just became pathetic and Isiah is the true GM.
    Meh. D'ant runs a tight rotation and if anything Shaun Williams and Walker can step up and get more minutes now. Further, I doubt we are done and at least we will sign a back up center. BTW, Sheldon Williams and Corey Brewer can easily crack the rotation and provide some adequate depth.

    This is not good for the future of the Knicks
    Loosing a bunch of role players to get a 26 year old mega star is great for our future. We can fill needs over the next few years to round out our roster and that is always easier than securing a talent like Melo. A core of Amare and Melo is very attractive to vets looking to get a chip and you will see them flock to NYC for a chance at glory. (I predict Artest will end his career as our stopper off the bench on a very cheap contract in a few short years) Add in the fact that every contract other than Melo and Amare is a short term deal and we have flexibility moving forward.


    Simply put, you are wrong!

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    I think if they get rolling, we can get to the ECF's against (probably) Boston. I don't think we win that series this year, but it would be amazing!

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    TO TR1LL10N Melo has made the playoffs every year in the league including 2 WC finals without a second superstar. (no, an over the hill AI does not count)

    From ESPN: Anthony led the Nuggets to the playoffs in each of his first seven seasons in Denver after winning a national title at Syracuse as a freshman and had them positioned for another playoff run this year. But Denver advanced out of the first round just once during that time.

    The Nuggets have NOT gone to the WC finals twice. WRONG.


    Melo is 26 and scores 25 and boards 8 per game ion his sleep. To even compare him to MJ or Kareem and draw a definitive conclusion is a joke. That said, no one is stating he is of that caliber but he is just a slight notch below and has the potential to attain that status if he can win some chips in NYC.

    The point is that giving up 4 starters and all those draft picks is only worthy of a Kareem or a Jordan. If Walsh were actually running the show they wouldn't have to give up that much. Mike Lupica also agreed.
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    Correct...STILL need as in we were already getting dominated on the boards and in the paint therefore this is a constant and irrelevant to this trade. If anything Melo is a big upgrade with regards to rebounding over Gallo.



    Meh. D'ant runs a tight rotation and if anything Shaun Williams and Walker can step up and get more minutes now. Further, I doubt we are done and at least we will sign a back up center. BTW, Sheldon Williams and Corey Brewer can easily crack the rotation and provide some adequate depth.

    Isiah is in the asylum now and running the show. This is not good at all.I hope we are not done we need a lot more help.



    Loosing a bunch of role players to get a 26 year old mega star is great for our future. We can fill needs over the next few years to round out our roster and that is always easier than securing a talent like Melo. A core of Amare and Melo is very attractive to vets looking to get a chip and you will see them flock to NYC for a chance at glory. (I predict Artest will end his career as our stopper off the bench on a very cheap contract in a few short years) Add in the fact that every contract other than Melo and Amare is a short term deal and we have flexibility moving forward.


    Simply put, you are wrong!

    NO I am not wrong. Just my opinion. I have been a KNicks fan since 1967 which was probably before you even born. Lupica agrees with my opinion so I will leave it at that.
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    Originally Posted by MusketeerX
    We will still end up in 6th place. Will play the Bulls in the first round. Will lose in the first round, but it will go 7 games.
    Cant see that bro. We owned the Bulls without Melo.

    The next 21 games I count 15-6 16-5.

    Playoffs: If we are not in a game 7 in the second round we got a problem...

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    Originally Posted by Clyde & The Pearl
    Cant see that bro. We owned the Bulls without Melo.

    The next 21 games I count 15-6 16-5.

    Playoffs: If we are not in a game 7 in the second round we got a problem...
    Bulls never had a full team, though. Noah and Boozer have only played in 9 games together this season. They have a lot more depth, and with Noah and Boozer at full health, I can't see them losing. I actually think the Bulls have a shot at making the Eastern Conference finals... giving the Heat/Celts a run for their money.

    Also, I think you need to give the New New York Knicks 10 games to learn how to play together.

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