josh smith to the knicks???? - Page 2

StEpHoN_mArBuRy · Jun 17, 2009, 11:48

I like to keep Chandler and acquire smith if that is at all possible. But if we must trade Chandler for Smith I say do it.

brooklyn_baller318 · Jun 17, 2009, 12:17

having smith and chandler on the same team would be relentless duo at sf but i agree that if we have to give up chandfler it is worth it because smith is an overall better player now and in the long run

dpryde · Jun 17, 2009, 14:56

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Originally Posted by metrocard

The truth is.

Josh Smith is the most talented player in the NBA.

The Atlanta Hawks are the worst at developing young talent...look at how slowly Williams and Horford have progressed, and these are top 5 lottery talent players.

I remember watching Smith back when he was balling against the Isiah Dumbasses in MSG...he dropped 39 and was so clutch in OT.

Josh Smith can score it.
Atlanta doesn't uses his strength.

He can be a Rasheed Wallace type player, more of a SF version.

His defense is underrated...people think he's just a shot blocker.
When he's focused, he could be a lock down defender.

He shot 49% in a lame offensive system.
His stats would increase immensely...similar to Shawn Marion in Phoneix.

This man has been caged for too long and is ready to break out at only age 24.

That means a good 6-12 years under New York as potential as a Knicks ledgend.

Josh Smith can do what Boris Diaw did in Phoneix, times a zillion.

Projected Josh Smith stats in 09-10 as a Knickerbocker

22 ppg
10 rebs
3.5 blocks
2 stls
3.5 assist
50% FG
35% 3pt

All NBA 2nd team
All star appearance

Hopeful Knicks line up for 2009-2010

PG - Ricky Rubio
SG - Wayne Ellington(Knicks buy first round pick with cash$$$)
SF - Danilo Gallinari
PF - Al Harrington
C - Josh Smith

Lets go do this.

agreed with everything except i dont think josh smith is the most talented devoloping player. that goes to kevin durant

brooklyn_baller318 · Jun 17, 2009, 19:18

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Originally Posted by dpryde

agreed with everything except i dont think josh smith is the most talented devoloping player. that goes to kevin durant

i think josh smith is the most talented developing 2 way player
durant is a pure scorer... not much on the line of defense
smith is a scorer rebounder shot blocker and lock down defender
smith is one of the few players that has not ceiliing... he can be as good as he wants and as good as a coach will let him be
d'antoni's style fits him perfectly he can shut down a big time scorer on one end and get into the break on offense throwning down dunks or hitting his mid range jumper... players like him, lbj, wade, amare, and bosh (all slashers/inside guys) will be even more efective if we can surround them with shooters to spread the floor... we may have the ability to do so with gallo, draft s curry , and then get a second rounder and draft another shooter in wayne ellington..... all of a sudden we are a team with star slashers and are deadly from 3 different positions at 3 point range

Arod2k9 · Jun 17, 2009, 22:43

I totally understand why the Hawks would trade such a talented player, and that is because his head is not always on the games. During this past season he would go on streaks of missing 8 free throws in a row. He would miss defensive assignments and is a hard player to coach. I wouldn't trade Chandler for him, who you can develop to give you the same production at a much cheaper price. Is not Isiah running the show, it is two very smart people in Walsh and D'antoni so they wouldn't think of making such a stupid move.

We need character players here, enough of the Marbury's, Tim Thomases, and Zach Randolph please. We need people that care for the game of basketball, one another, and willing to sacrifice for their team, teammates, and the city of New York.

Patience Folks Patience...

Toons · Jun 18, 2009, 06:57

i think josh smith is the most MULTI-TALENTED playe rin the league....before him, it was marion to me. If trevor ariza cud develop a 3 shot, why cant smith?

brooklyn_baller318 · Jun 18, 2009, 13:22

co-sign with toons... and with the d'antoni style of play hell have pleanty of opportunities to develope that shot

dpryde · Jun 18, 2009, 16:38

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Originally Posted by brooklyn_baller318

i think josh smith is the most talented developing 2 way player
durant is a pure scorer... not much on the line of defense
smith is a scorer rebounder shot blocker and lock down defender
smith is one of the few players that has not ceiliing... he can be as good as he wants and as good as a coach will let him be
d'antoni's style fits him perfectly he can shut down a big time scorer on one end and get into the break on offense throwning down dunks or hitting his mid range jumper... players like him, lbj, wade, amare, and bosh (all slashers/inside guys) will be even more efective if we can surround them with shooters to spread the floor... we may have the ability to do so with gallo, draft s curry , and then get a second rounder and draft another shooter in wayne ellington..... all of a sudden we are a team with star slashers and are deadly from 3 different positions at 3 point range

good post, i really do like smith but i hope he improves his attitude. if he exhibits a great work ethic he will become that great player. but even though i love him i still say hes 2nd to durant. smith cant even imagine to be as fluent and unstoppable as a scorer that durant will be. and durant has length like smith, which will help him block shots, and be pesky (not great) on defense. also smith does not have great vision, that is he cannot create for teammates. durant does. i dont think you could win a championship with smith as your first option. i just dont see his shot ever reaching true consistency and his passing is still okay but not great. once durant gains some muscle and experience he will be the guy you can build championships around as the first option. thus why i still maintain hes the more talented of the two.

dpryde · Jun 18, 2009, 16:40

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Originally Posted by Toons

i think josh smith is the most MULTI-TALENTED playe rin the league....before him, it was marion to me. If trevor ariza cud develop a 3 shot, why cant smith?

good analogy smith will be marion 2.0 in the future.

mafra · Jun 18, 2009, 16:43

I would love Smith. Man, just what the Knicks need (and help them attract Lebron).

Guy plays defense!

Plus, he also has playoff experience. Very key!

Smith, Gallo, Chandler would be a nice trio.

Add Terrence Williams or a point guard to that in this draft; sign Gortat.... Now the Knicks are building something to attract them stars in 2010!

Gman56 · Jun 26, 2009, 09:45

man the idea of getting josh smith is nice

the ideal lineup this year would be:

PG: Duhon/Douglas/free agent?
SG: Chandler/Hughes
SF: J. Smith/Gallo
PF: Hill/Wilcox
C: Curry/Milicic (weakest spot unless we keep Lee)

smokes · Jun 26, 2009, 09:49

This deal was declared dead some days ago...

clumsy · Jun 27, 2009, 11:26

Dude is living off of his natural ability at this point so if we got him what you see is what you would get (which is still worlds better than anyone we have). I'm pretty sure that he has poor work ethic and that will not improve

Coastyn · Jul 01, 2009, 02:18

I love this thread, I think josh is the absolute perfect piece of the knicks puzzle...If by chance we get j kidd, imagine hill and smith at the 4 and the 5 running the floor and catching alleys all day. One thing i don't understand about these recent forums is...Why isnt CHRIS DUHON nor AL HARRINGTON talked about in trade rumors...these guys have limited years on their contracts and could stir up alot of interests with other teams to get big names.... I think J. Smith is the key, though