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Meh... I guess he does deserve some credit.. he has been managing timeout situations and lineups alittle better recently.. And we are playing some defense. Still has a long ways to go before I support him tho.
Lin was sent to the bench with 2:28 left in the first quarter and returned with 7:20 left in the second quarter. He didnt get another rest the entire second half...
We'll see how well Chandler is implemented into the offense once Amare comes back. That will be a big test. Amare is not going to be happy unless he has the majority of those pick and rolls.
If you hear the postgame interviews, Jeremy kept telling D'antoni that he was good and could stay in the game. D'Antoni joked that he wouldn't listen to Lin as much anymore and probably rest him more.
Besides... the way TD and Bibby have been playing? The game was way too close to let them drag our team down. If you noticed, Lin let Shump and others initiate the offense and kind of acted as a decoy to get some rest in the 4th quarter. That let him conserve some energy and save some juice for defense. He's a smart guy. He'll be okay.
Crazy⑧s;205923 said:Sorry, I think you're right.
Crazy⑧s;205857 said:Why the sudden turn around, though? For Mike, I mean, not you.
Didn't we have less wins in his second season with us?I agree with iSayUghh to some degree.
I'd definitely err on the side of "stubbornness" over "pragmaticism" (is that a word?) in this case, however, being stubborn is not so bad if there is an end game in sight (Baron Davis).
This is not some thread like the MDA apology thread nor am I absolving MDA from his many coaching sins in the past. This is more to point out that as well as Lin, Jefferies, Novak, Tyson, Fields, Shumpert being a big influence in our upswerve, MDA deserves credit too.
And amid the losing streak and even since, there have been a lot of things said about MDA like "so now we're good, let's just hope MDA doesn't find a way to screw it up" which I think is unfair. He's improved our record and our play consistently for 4 years with the exception of a blip after Melo was added.
Another thing I hear is "well MDA should have seen Lin was good blabla" well then so should all the other teams that had him on their roster and the 99.9% of talent scouts that also overlooked him.
Regardless of our awful defense previously, we are now playing good defense. Regardless of our awful offense this season we are now playing great offensively! Instead of wondering how Mike can screw things up how about we wonder how good this team can be, an MDA offense (best in the league) with a very good defense, with a pretty damn nice roster.
Love the enthusiasm Smokes but...
We have a long climb ahead of us.
Incorporating the Broadway Bigs. Lin has superseded Mike's penchant for LOW % SHOTS by going to the hole, hence The Mad Byson's offensive resurgence. I would say this is inspite of Mike- meaning I and everyone saw our strength (Bigs) but were unable to exploit them
Lin comes in, drives and dishes, lobs to JJ and TC, and all of a sudden "he's a genius"... I can't co-sign that because IMO he had enough talent to get the ball inside more, and didn't... Lin did.
But as I said, it matters not that Mike gets the credit when we finally realize how to play fundamentally. Although I know, and You should too, that was OPPOSITE to Mikes approach.
Anyway, I think we should wait until playoff time comes before deciding on Mike. We're a work in progress and then the top coaches and decisions will be there and needed- then we can see if Mike learned his lesson.
Don't you think it's strange that we are winning by doing things totally opposite of what Mike wanted? We've had our highest % of high % shots since he's been here.
Chandler is getting the ball early and often- that wasn't Mike.
Cutting down the threes- that's not Mike.
Rebounding and put backs which are directly related to more scoring inside- not Mike.
So either Mike has learned his lesson, chose to acquiesce, or was left with no choice. Either way we're winning, so no complaints from me. (I do however recall many DNP's, and 40+ threes per game... and scrubby TD who hasn't been seen since)
Love the enthusiasm Smokes but...
Lin comes in, drives and dishes, lobs to JJ and TC, and all of a sudden "he's a genius"... I can't co-sign that because IMO he had enough talent to get the ball inside more, and didn't... Lin did.
nobody penetrates, so we attempt low % fgs = mda suxorz
lin penetrates, creating high % fgs = mda suxorz
do they not offer logic classes at the schools you people went to?
Damn RED, you basically said everything I was going to say.
I agree what we're witnessing is the opposite of Antoni ball. More points in the paint and a higher overall FG% due to higher % shots. Novak's success is primarily due to Lin's drives to the basket and his ability to make TC a threat on offense. All of these things open up the perimeter for a guy like Novak to excel. Antoni wanted Bibby and TD to play PnR and shoot 3s. Lin is playing PnR and attacking the paint which = better results.
I think ON THE COURT, Lin has a better understanding than MOA. We all know the biggest advantages MOA saw in TD and Bibby was their potential for making 3s. MOA likes to spread the floor for shooters, while Lin prefers to attack, draw the defense and drop off or lob to the post guys.
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If you're calling 3s low % fgs then MOA will not agree with you. Do some research and you will find that MOA sees open 3s as a higher % or equal to shot attempts in the paint.
youre confusing straight % with weighted average. that point makes the difference in the chance of making a shot less meaningful. MIKE DANTONI's team is taking high % shots, and people are assuming that just because lin is creating them, it has nothing to do with dantoni.
unless you have significant samples of lin with dantoni, lin with another coach, and dantoni with another pg, you cannot draw conclusions as far as who is responsible for the success strictly from the box score.
Sound ****ing post.
+3
you have no idea how relieved i am to find people are willing and/or able to accept logic. its sad that i have to say that tho.