The 2012-13 Season: KnicksOnline Fantasy Basketball League on Y!

metrocard

Legend
Crazy⑧s;248803 said:
I'm down with 4 divisions, for sure.

I'd also probably bump offensive boards to 2.5 or even 3, as they're so much harder to come by than defensive boards - FT rebounds etc.

I was going to organize the divisions just wanted to get Metro's say so and what names you guys want to give to them

I'm thinking

Ewing
Frazier
Van Gundy

something like that

How about 4 Divisions into

Bronx
Manhattan
Queens
Brooklyn?

Seems like Rady and OrangeBlogman want in.
Theres already 16 teams.

I wonder how a 20 many man league would work. The talent pool would be water downed though.

How many teams we had last year?
 

iSaYughh

Starter
I meant I could do an 18 team league.

Let's do 18, re: Rady and O.

I wouldn't go higher than that. If the demand gets real high (especially next year), I would actually create two levels of play:

one league for more hardcore people, those who are veterans, those who have made the playoffs in a league

the other league would be for people who have yet to prove what leve of ball they are at.

And making the divisons the boroughs is awesome idea.
 

iSaYughh

Starter
9 man divisions, would we do 8, 12 or 16 team playoffs then

I'd go top records in each conference, get first round byes. If it's possible to do....It puts a real premium on maintaining total excellence and command of the regular season.

With 12 teams making it, we'd have 6 playoff teams from each conference. Which could work out funky....we need 8 or 4 at some pt to move forward cleanly....

Which is why I would do the two 1st round buys. These top seeds, would then play the lowest seeded team of the 6 in their conference, who advanced to Round 2.

Where we'd have 4 teams in each conference.

This makes sense in terms of letting a nice number of teams taste playoff action, increases the action in the playoffs, puts in some cool plot lines that will develop between the top alphas and the underdog or two who will sneak in, an it also doesn't make it a charity thing, as the true #1 seeds get a very reward for their excellence.

:2cents:
 

CA7

Scoring Champ
I'd go top records in each conference, get first round byes. If it's possible to do....It puts a real premium on maintaining total excellence and command of the regular season.

With 12 teams making it, we'd have 6 playoff teams from each conference. Which could work out funky....we need 8 or 4 at some pt to move forward cleanly....

Which is why I would do the two 1st round buys. These top seeds, would then play the lowest seeded team of the 6 in their conference, who advanced to Round 2.

Where we'd have 4 teams in each conference.

This makes sense in terms of letting a nice number of teams taste playoff action, increases the action in the playoffs, puts in some cool plot lines that will develop between the top alphas and the underdog or two who will sneak in, an it also doesn't make it a charity thing, as the true #1 seeds get a very reward for their excellence.

:2cents:

it'd be like top seed in each division makes it then the next 10 best records

Top 4 seeds get buys

other 8 play each other so the bracket looks like

1
vs
8/12

4
vs
5/9

2
vs
7/11

3
vs
6/10
 

iSaYughh

Starter
it'd be like top seed in each division makes it then the next 10 best records

Top 4 seeds get buys

other 8 play each other so the bracket looks like

1
vs
8/12

4
vs
5/9

2
vs
7/11

3
vs
6/10

Bingo. :beer:

If possible to give the buys out for top seeded dudes, it'd be awesome.
 

Crazy⑧s

Evacuee
I want to do 4 divisions also.

Hey, I made the stat categories as follows

Field Goals Made - 2 pts
Free Throws Made - 1pt
3pt Shots Made - 2.5pts
Points Scored - 2pts
Off Rebs - 2pts
Def Rebs - 2pts
Assists - 2.5 pts
Steals - 2.5pts
Blocks - 2.5pts
Turnovers - -1pts
Fouls - -1pts
Games play - .5pts
Games Started - .5pts

I didn't include total rebounds, 3pt shots attempted, free throws attempted, field goals attempted.

I did the scoring system like this because it's as balanced as I tried to make it. Favors defensive players, assist guys, help defenders, centers who block shots, 3pt specialist, and offensive guys.

Example statline

Carmelo goes for 25 points = 50pts
8 - 21 FG = 16pts
1-5 3pt shots - 2.5 pts
7 turnovers - -7 pts
0 assist
11 rebounds - 22 pts
1 stl - 2.5pts
1 blk - 2.5 pts
Game played - .5pts
Game started - .5pts


Total stateline of 57.5 (I think, off the head math)

Plus the offensive board total bumps it up a bit. Should there be some sort of minimum penalisation for a really poor shooting game? Like a sub 35% outing? I dunno if that's even possible, but if someone goes out there (Kobe) and throws up a 10 for 33 game, then that's just in favour of sheer volume.

How intricate can the stats be?

For example, and I'm sure it's impossible but wanna throw it out there, if a member of your fantasy team hits a game winner.

I'm seriously gonna have to have a thorough go through with all the rules and so forth.

Can we please get a run down, Metro?
 

CA7

Scoring Champ
Crazy⑧s;248972 said:
Plus the offensive board total bumps it up a bit. Should there be some sort of minimum penalisation for a really poor shooting game? Like a sub 35% outing? I dunno if that's even possible, but if someone goes out there (Kobe) and throws up a 10 for 33 game, then that's just in favour of sheer volume.

How intricate can the stats be?

For example, and I'm sure it's impossible but wanna throw it out there, if a member of your fantasy team hits a game winner.

I'm seriously gonna have to have a thorough go through with all the rules and so forth.

Can we please get a run down, Metro?

we'd have to use FG% as a category then, which makes sense for volume scorers. Kobe will get 40 and take 30 shots so I guess guys get faulted for Kobe's poor shooting night but still benefit from his points total
 

Crazy⑧s

Evacuee
we'd have to use FG% as a category then, which makes sense for volume scorers. Kobe will get 40 and take 30 shots so I guess guys get faulted for Kobe's poor shooting night but still benefit from his points total

I think that's definitely fair, personally. Especially if someone's putting in 20-30% of a sh*tload of shots and still dropping 25-30 points. Sh*t's lame and lame to watch.

Is it possible to set FG% brackets?

eg: -35% or less FGs equates to a 3 point penalty. -30% or less equates to a 5 point penalty, 25% FGs 7 point deduction and so on.

I can't stand the Paul Pierce's of this world that crank their stats by playing to the refs, either. So if someone like him has a poor shooting night but still gets 20-24 points out of acting and ***** play, penalize them.

All in favor....

I.
 

CA7

Scoring Champ
Crazy⑧s;248983 said:
I think that's definitely fair, personally. Especially if someone's putting in 20-30% of a sh*tload of shots and still dropping 25-30 points. Sh*t's lame and lame to watch.

Is it possible to set FG% brackets?

eg: -35% or less FGs equates to a 3 point penalty. -30% or less equates to a 5 point penalty, 25% FGs 7 point deduction and so on.

I can't stand the Paul Pierce's of this world that crank their stats by playing to the refs, either. So if someone like him has a poor shooting night but still gets 20-24 points out of acting and ***** play, penalize them.

All in favor....

I.

I think it just goes by all your players for the week and which ever team has a higher percentage gets the category
 

ronoranina

Fundamentally Sound
Crazy⑧s;248983 said:
I think that's definitely fair, personally. Especially if someone's putting in 20-30% of a sh*tload of shots and still dropping 25-30 points. Sh*t's lame and lame to watch.

Is it possible to set FG% brackets?

eg: -35% or less FGs equates to a 3 point penalty. -30% or less equates to a 5 point penalty, 25% FGs 7 point deduction and so on.

I can't stand the Paul Pierce's of this world that crank their stats by playing to the refs, either. So if someone like him has a poor shooting night but still gets 20-24 points out of acting and ***** play, penalize them.

All in favor....

I.

Re the bolded, heck no.

PP is crafty as shet. Dude knows how to get to the line and generate scoring even if he's having an off night shooting the ball.

Let's not get too craaaaazyy lol with how we utilize stats for scoring my friend.
 

smokes

Huge Member
There's no FG% category. Sorry guys.

Really? That seems weird... The standard categories for a fantasy league are PTS, REB, AST, STL, BLK, FT%, FG%, 3PM, TO

Didn't we use FGA at -0.5 to make this happen last year? That way you gain 1.5pt for FGM and 2pt for 3PM, plus a few more points for the PTS.

I prefer it that way, giving points for FGM and Points doesn't take into account poor volume shooting at all, doesn't punish you when your player shoots 30%.

I don't know but this scoring seems way different to last year? Maybe I'm wrong though. Would be nice to hear from isayugh what we had last year.
 
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iSaYughh

Starter
Really? That seems weird... The standard categories for a fantasy league are PTS, REB, AST, STL, BLK, FT%, FG%, 3PM, TO

Didn't we use FGA at -0.5 to make this happen last year? That way you gain 1.5pt for FGM and 2pt for 3PM, plus a few more points for the PTS.

I prefer it that way, giving points for FGM and Points doesn't take into account poor volume shooting at all, doesn't punish you when your player shoots 30%.

I don't know but this scoring seems way different to last year? Maybe I'm wrong though. Would be nice to hear from isayugh what we had last year.


Srry I've been aboard and mad busy, so haven't been able to check in much....but, ya, idk exact details on last year (i'd havta look it up to be 100% precise), but we did have something that equated to FG%; like Smoke mentioned, there was a penalization for essentially taking a shot and not making it (per the example in Smoke's post).

It's a pretty huge thing. In last years league, there was a very big premium on efficiency -- guys who could drop 10-14 a night, with high efficiency, while collecting boards, blocks, etc, were very very valuable.

A guy like Kobe was still very good -- as even a night where he only shoots 30%, will still give a ton of points if he's still scoring a ****load.....but, a high volume scorer couldn't just beast while shooting 30%.

Rest of the scoring looks same as last yr to me.
 

smokes

Huge Member
^ if you get time to check it out could you post the exact scoring system? I tried to find it but can't seem to access last years league in any way shape or form on yahoo website.

Gotta get these kinda things pinned down with ~1 week to go until the draft!
 

smokes

Huge Member
Also maybe the old regulars in here can tell me what's going on with all the homo loving this offseason?! Never seen so much green since my summer in the 'Dam.

:kissass:
 
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