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KnicksWillRiseAgain
Mar 12, 2012, 17:07
A caller called into the Stephen A show and asked about Phil Jax. Stephen said he KNOWS from multiple sources that Phil Jackson "wants to be here" and if the Knicks "Want" him they can have him.

#FireD'Antoni

elcol
Mar 12, 2012, 17:23
Gogogoggogo!

LeFlume
Mar 12, 2012, 17:27
A caller called into the Stephen A show and asked about Phil Jax. Stephen said he KNOWS from multiple sources that Phil Jackson "wants to be here" and if the Knicks "Want" him they can have him.

#FireD'Antoni

If this is tru I will name my son after you..:gony:

Green rep comin your way sir.:gony:

KnicksWillRiseAgain
Mar 12, 2012, 17:29
If this is tru I will name my son after you..:gony:

Green rep comin your way sir.:gony:
KnicksWillRiseAgain is way to long...name him something whacky tho like Ronald or Pookie

KnicksWillRiseAgain
Mar 12, 2012, 17:30
He followed up on it by saying "Its up to Dolan. If Dolan wants him he can have him...But he has to want him.'

NicksKnicks
Mar 12, 2012, 17:35
Dolan is a total dumbass but even i dont think hes dumb enough to pass of Phil Jax!

Wargames
Mar 12, 2012, 20:32
http://ufrsports.com/review/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Phil-Jackson.jpg

- My Zen doesn't come cheap

really though he probably will want some say in the personnel on the team similar to Adelman in Minnesota. I have a feeling its control more than money that is jamming this up.

jimkcchief88
Mar 12, 2012, 21:03
Cmon home Phil!

knicksin60
Mar 12, 2012, 21:20
Doesn't Phil Jackson always toy with the idea of coaching the Knicks but ends up rejecting them whenever he's not coaching?

SSj4Wingzero
Mar 12, 2012, 22:34
Phil's not coming mid-season though. He's coming at the end of the year. If we fire D'Antoni now, we're just going to have the rest of the season with Mike Woodson as coach.

gaknickfan
Mar 12, 2012, 22:48
http://ufrsports.com/review/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Phil-Jackson.jpg

- My Zen doesn't come cheap

really though he probably will want some say in the personnel on the team similar to Adelman in Minnesota. I have a feeling its control more than money that is jamming this up.

:agreed: dont think this will happen dolemite is to much of a control freak to let Phil run the show ......dolemite will hire some yes man first

c0leworld
Mar 12, 2012, 22:48
i hate dantoni so much at this point already. please let the guy go. he makes me miserable

NYk_Reloaded718
Mar 12, 2012, 22:52
Phil Jackson is a pipe dream, doubt he comes but we can at least give woodson a shot at head coach

Wargames
Mar 12, 2012, 23:19
Both Wilbon and Stephen A Smith said he is willing to come. His wifey Dropped a ton of hints when he was leaving LA he would be looking at NY.

The only question is will Dolan fall back and let it happened. Now with that said correct me if I am wrong but isn't he somewhat a less involved owner with the successful rangers because their coach more or less runs that team? I am hoping I am right because he doesn't need to get involved am I right. He has the talent to sell MSG out. He has Lin to get all that money from the Asian markets that follow him. Why would he be against a coach who if he is successful will get him playoff money $$$ and atleast 1-3 championships to shut up all his haters. He want's to be the Yankee's go and get Joe Torre then.

insanity4289
Mar 13, 2012, 01:01
A caller called into the Stephen A show and asked about Phil Jax. Stephen said he KNOWS from multiple sources that Phil Jackson "wants to be here" and if the Knicks "Want" him they can have him.

#FireD'Antoni

Stephen A Smith talks spews more **** from his mouth than incarcerated bob.

Don't get hyped for no reason. This is a win - win situation for Smith if the Knicks get him, he says I told you so. If they don't, I told you its all Dolan's fault.


You really think Phil jackson had a conversation with this assdick and was like, "Hey Steve, don't tell anyone this, but I really want to coach for the Knicks before I retire"

Smith is just connecting rudimentary dots that any average fan could come up with.

Jackson played for the knicks
Jackson isn't coaching
+ Knicks have 1 of the most talented teams in the league
Phil Jackson wants to coach for Knicks

**** Stephen A. Smith a monkey on a typewriter could do his job

I Hate Joakim Noah
Mar 13, 2012, 01:20
Wargames I could not agree more.

It's Phil ****ing Jackson. The man has won 11 titles as a coach. I would not take lightly his wife saying stuff like that, and I would not take lightly the fact he was drafted by the Knicks, played over a decade there, & was a fan favorite. His accomplishments as a coach are already ridiculous. But can you imagine the heights his legacy would reach if he were to return and win a title with the Knicks, a 3rd different team? His popularity in NYC and basketball circles everywhere would ****ing explode.

Plus he's "only" 66. I say only because plenty of coaches have still coached older than that. Jackson also claimed he was quitting coaching forever after the Bulls. Obviously that did not happen. If he wants to do it this would be an absolute no-brainer for the Knicks FO. A guy who has coached star talent to titles with two teams, a current team with star talent but struggling, a return to the team he started with.

I couldn't see him taking over mid season though, I think if it happened it'd probably have to be next season.

Paul1355
Mar 13, 2012, 02:41
Phil's not coming mid-season though. He's coming at the end of the year. If we fire D'Antoni now, we're just going to have the rest of the season with Mike Woodson as coach.

we might actually have a chance with Woodson but for the future we have to throw money at Phil

CoolRunnings
Mar 13, 2012, 02:51
Lets say this does happen, STAT will have to adjust his game. He will have to learn to play with his back to the basket in order to run the traingle. I say this because I assume he would run it through Lin, Melo and Stat.

This could actually serve good for Amare's career from here on out. He's not that explosive above the rim type player any more and has to learn post moves and the use of his body to protect his shot and the ball.

Melo would love this because it would provide him with the iso that Kobe and Jordan recieved all those years.

I am all for Phil comming here but its a dream.

Wargames
Mar 13, 2012, 07:57
Amare is the one that doesnt fit in the triangle. He would have to learn to new skills but I got to agree him learning some post moves would extebd his career quite a bit. But who knows players these days all seem more or less allergic to post moves.

Bishop*
Mar 13, 2012, 09:16
Phill is the best coach for this crop of players we have. The triangle will be the best offense that will make our two big men Tyson and Amare feel comfortable in the the paint. Melo's passing game (sharp crisp) and iso moments will also get its place in the Triangle. I will only suggest we keep our defensive coach since Phill's defense philosophy can be shaky a times.

nuckles2k2
Mar 13, 2012, 09:31
Phill is the best coach for this crop of players we have. The triangle will be the best offense that will make our two big men Tyson and Amare feel comfortable in the the paint. Melo's passing game (sharp crisp) and iso moments will also get its place in the Triangle. I will only suggest we keep our defensive coach since Phill's defense philosophy can be shaky a times.

Amar'e would be atrocious in the triangle.

He doesn't protect the ball well, he doesn't operate with his back to the basket -- he faces up way too much, I don't think he's a good enough passer, he has atrocious foot work.

Sometimes it seems as if he's incapable of operating in traffic from a stand still position. He's better when he's attacking with pace, but that's not exactly the triangle offense.

Everyone else would fit well (Fields would have to improve that jump shot) but I'm not sure STAT would fit.

NYallDay
Mar 13, 2012, 09:47
Y wont stat fit? When MJ retired first time, the ran the triangle through Pippen. And since stat is no horace grant (stat cant defend or rebound), why cant knicks have chandler play the role of grant, and have stat be the bill wennington knocking down elbow jumpers?

This is just a hypothetical of course, what Steven A Smith says holds no weight, mostly because he sounds like a ignorant idiot the way he talks.
As someone mentioned, a monkey , while defecating, with a banana in one hand, a typewriter infront of him, can piece together better journalism than Smith the wanna b hood ignoramus.



Amar'e would be atrocious in the triangle.

He doesn't protect the ball well, he doesn't operate with his back to the basket -- he faces up way too much, I don't think he's a good enough passer, he has atrocious foot work.

Sometimes it seems as if he's incapable of operating in traffic from a stand still position. He's better when he's attacking with pace, but that's not exactly the triangle offense.

Everyone else would fit well (Fields would have to improve that jump shot) but I'm not sure STAT would fit.

LINvincible
Mar 13, 2012, 09:52
SAS claim to know Basketball. He was one of the head cheerleaders to bring Melo to NYC. What a jokster. Melo got paid and we are left with a player that can't play team basketball.

Yesterday this moron put all the blame on Lin and Coach Mike D. Really? Before Lin arrived, what was the Knicks record? After he was hurt, what did the knicks do again? 9-1? The guy is a buffoon and should be treated as one.

And back to Melo. How can you be a superstar in this league if you can't finish around the rim. What good are you if you can't play defense and on offense can't finish. My gosh, did the Knicks the hosed.

NYallDay
Mar 13, 2012, 09:59
you say to-mato , i say tom-ato , baffoon, monkey! its all the same :beer:. There should be a thread on how much we hate all these so called know it alls and experts. The only ones i respect are Clyde, Breen and Hahn, to some degree Tim Legler and the legendary but always under appreciated Hubie Brown. The Jon Barrys , Smiths, Barkleys, are like the blind leading the blind.


SAS claim to know Basketball. He was one of the head cheerleaders to bring Melo to NYC. What a jokster. Melo got paid and we are left with a player that can't play team basketball.

Yesterday this moron put all the blame on Lin and Coach Mike D. Really? Before Lin arrived, what was the Knicks record? After he was hurt, what did the knicks do again? 9-1? The guy is a buffoon and should be treated as one.

And back to Melo. How can you be a superstar in this league if you can't finish around the rim. What good are you if you can't play defense and on offense can't finish. My gosh, did the Knicks the hosed.

nuckles2k2
Mar 13, 2012, 10:52
Y wont stat fit? When MJ retired first time, the ran the triangle through Pippen. And since stat is no horace grant (stat cant defend or rebound), why cant knicks have chandler play the role of grant, and have stat be the bill wennington knocking down elbow jumpers?

This is just a hypothetical of course, what Steven A Smith says holds no weight, mostly because he sounds like a ignorant idiot the way he talks.
As someone mentioned, a monkey , while defecating, with a banana in one hand, a typewriter infront of him, can piece together better journalism than Smith the wanna b hood ignoramus.

Theoretically that could work, if STAT's shots fall. Last year he was killing from 15-18 feet with his jumper. This year his field goal percentage plummeted with that shot, and it's being contested more this season than it was last year. Plus he's not getting it in the same rhythm when the shots aren't coming out of PnR/pick-n-pop action. This year it's more of a spot up jumper, and it looks busted as hell.

If last night was the first sign that he can hit that spot up jumper (and he started bricking late in that game, so I dunno) then yea, it might work if he's not being relied on in the post.

I know Stephen A can be a blow hard. But the one thing that he said that stuck with me is his line about the eye test.

"You can say whatever you want to me, but my eyes ain't gonna lie to me."

iSaYughh
Mar 13, 2012, 10:59
Would be very surprised if Jackson came here.

But as far as "final hoorahs" go, it wouldn't get any better than this.

Still don't think he is up for the NYC basketball circus, and despite the sum of our parts being very very talented not sure he is willing to stick his neck out to try to make this team be a true contender.

nuckles2k2
Mar 13, 2012, 11:02
Would be very surprised if Jackson came here.

But as far as "final hoorahs" go, it wouldn't get any better than this.

Still don't think he is up for the NYC basketball circus, and despite the sum of our parts being very very talented not sure he is willing to stick his neck out to try to make this team be a true contender.

I think he could deal with the circus, I don't know if he wants to deal with Dolan tho.

I say his coming here lies solely on how much institutional influence Dolan is willing to give up.

That, to me, does not bode well for us.

But oh boy do I wish...

CLYDE
Mar 13, 2012, 11:09
If Jax came, unlike D'antoni, maybe he would allow Clyde to teach Lin and just in general teach the team how to play defense.

If Clyde taught them then Jax would make them do it.

iSaYughh
Mar 13, 2012, 11:17
I think he could deal with the circus, I don't know if he wants to deal with Dolan tho.

I say his coming here lies solely on how much institutional influence Dolan is willing to give up.

That, to me, does not bode well for us.

But oh boy do I wish...

Exactly. And it indeed bodes *horribly* for us.

platnumn
Mar 14, 2012, 01:41
Our players do not have high enough basketball-IQ's to efficiently run the triangle.

The triangle is only as good as the weakest person on the team understands it. We have some dumb people on our team.