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MSGKnickz33
Jan 24, 2008, 12:25
The Philadelphia 76ers(16-27) vs The New York Knicks(13-28)
Friday, Jan. 25, 7:30pm ET Live on MSG

Welcome to the MSGKnickz33 Pregame show. Im your host Jazzy Jeff and the Knicks will be playing their first game since Monday. We'll see what kind of an impact the 4 day rest will have. The 76ers have been struggling winning only 2 out of their last 10 games. The Knicks have won 4 out of their last 6 and they should be able to get this win against the 76ers. The Knicks were owned by Philadelphia in 2 back-to-back games earlier in the season. If you look at the players on both teams the Knicks should be at least 5 games ahead of the 76ers but obviously thats not the case.

STARTING LINEUPS

The Philadelphia 76ers

pg-Andre Miller
sg-Willie Green
sf-Andre Iguodala
pf-Reggie Evans
C-Samuel Dalembert

And Now Your New York Knicks!!!!

At Point Guard, Jamal Crawford
At Shooting Guard, Fred Jones
At Small Forward, Quentin Richardson
At Power Forward, Zach Randolph
At Center, Eddy Curry

The Official MSG33 Pregame Strategy


Rebound!!!! Knicks only average 34 rebounds against the 76ers
Score!!!! Play As a Team!!!! Knicks only average 83.5pts vs sixers, 76ers are the 10th best team defensively
Defense!!!! 76ers are the 3rd worst team offensively, dont let them become the Best team
Dont Sleep!!!! Keep an eye on willie Green--On Dec. 7 he came off the bench to score 15pts and dish out 6 assists


Who are the Best 3point shooters on the 76ers?


Louis Williams-36.6%
Willie Green-35.2%
Andre Iguodala-31.6%


*Philadelphia traded Kyle Korver to Utah for Gordon Giricek

The 76ers are the worst team in the league from 3 point range only shooting 32%. Although the Knicks have some of the worse perimeter defense the stats suprisingly dont back this up. Going by the statistics the Knicks perimeter defense can be described as average. Their oppenents 3P% is 36.3% which ranks 17th amongst all NBA teams.

Heres a list of teams who suprisingly have worse perimeter defense then the Knicks in order from best to worst:

Sacramento
Philadelphia
Memphis
Golden State
Washington
Indiana
Denver
New Jersey
Toronto
Miami
Chicago
Seattle
Milawaukee

A suprising list here, I would expect the Knicks to be at the bottom. With the exception of Fred Jones the Knicks starters are all poor perimeter defenders. Q-Rich has been a step slow all year, Crawford has always been a poor defender and same goes for Zach Randolph. And remember, alot of teams have power forwards who can knock down 3's.

MSG33 Presents Tonights Key Matchup: Reggie Evans vs Zach Randolph

http://www.nba.com/media/act_reggie_evans.jpg http://www.hotstovenewyork.com/images/zach_randolph.jpg

Lets take a look at what Reggie Evans did against the Knicks in the back to back games played in December:

Dec. 7= 33 minutes, 12points, 11rebounds
Dec. 8= 24 minutes, 6points, 14rebounds

Now lets take a look at Zach Randolphs numbers against Philadelphia:

Dec. 7= 27minutes, 4points(2-11), 5rebounds
Dec. 8= 14minutes, 2points(1-3), 2rebounds

Zach had his 2 worst games against the sixers. He will need to step up on offense Friday night to give the Knicks a chance to win. Hes a tough player to stop when hes knockin down his isolated double or triple teamed jumpshots and when his post game is on. Lets take a look now at his numbers from the past 5 games:

36.6mpg
18.8ppg
11.6rpg
45fg%
1.4spg

Somehow Zach came away with 4 steals against the Celtics to go along with his 24 points and 15 rebounds.

Lets take a Look at the Playoff Watch in the Eastern Conference:


Celtics(33-7)
Pistons(30-13)-4.5GB
Magic(27-17)-8GB
Cavs(23-18)-10.5GB
Wizards(22-18)11GB
Raptors(23-19)11GB
Hawks(17-21)15GB
Pacers(19-24)15.5GB
Nets(18-23)15.5GB
Bulls(17-24)16.5GB
Bobcats(16-26)18GB
Bucks(16-26)18GB
76ers(16-27)18.5GB
Knicks(13-28)20.5GB
Heat(8-32)25GB

The Knicks are only 5 games out of the playoffs. The Eastern Conference was suppose improve this year but as we see theres still only 6 teams with winning records.

OtHer NeWs

The Celtics lost to the Raptors 114 to 112. Boston took a 7 point lead into the 4th quarter but were unable to stop the Raptors.

Jose Calderon>>>Rajon Rondo
Calderon-24pts,13asts,3stls
Rondo-14pts,6rbs,4asts

Bosh-23pts,7rbs
Bargnani-20pts,7rbs,7asts

I thank everyone for tuning into my pregame show and hopefully we have a good entertaining game Friday night at the Garden. Stay tuned Saturday evening for my Knicks vs Warriors pregame show.

abcd
Jan 24, 2008, 13:46
The two main players the Knicks must watch out for is Willie Green and Louis Williams.Those two always take advantage of the Knicks' poor interior Defense, so they must do a lot of zone defense, and force them to the perimeter.Andre Igoudala always plays well, so as long as Crawford can match his scoring, the Knicks won't have to worry about him too much.The Knicks lost to the 76ers on two ocassions, this season, so I expect them to seek revenge. I think the Knicks will win this one.I expect the 76ers not to take the Knicks seriously, since they have a 13-28 record,and since they beat the Knicks twice in December, and it will backfire.

Kennedy Curse
Jan 24, 2008, 14:05
wow...EAST SUCKZ!...we can get to the 8th spot easily...i saw west and holy shyt...all the teams in there will probably all be fighting for 3rd in the east...there all like Orlando records...and thats like the 6 seeds and shyt...wow we can get 2 8th just need a good stretch....and oo yea...another lost in this 1...phily can beat us like nutting

nyKnicks126
Jan 24, 2008, 14:17
I will be at the game tomorrow. Section 305 Row C. I am goin with my uncle,cousin, and probably my dad.

I would like to see knicks destory the sixers after the first two looses in the beginning of the season.

metrocard
Jan 24, 2008, 19:05
yoooo nyKnicks126


my brother

stop playing


my college had the tickets on sale for 5 dollars...I'm going tomorrow too with mad college heads


yooo my dude, we gotta like meet up...lol I dont what section im gonna be in tho.

Thats mad real.

Greatest game thread ever, MSG is the man.

MSGKnickz33
Jan 24, 2008, 19:09
yoooo nyKnicks126


my brother

stop playing


my college had the tickets on sale for 5 dollars...I'm going tomorrow too with mad college heads


yooo my dude, we gotta like meet up...lol I dont what section im gonna be in tho.

Thats mad real.

Greatest game thread ever, MSG is the man.

Thanx for the props Metro. It took me I think an hour to make this 1 but with the knicks bein a bad team its important to have good game threads and other good **** to keep people here and to get new people here. My favorite part of the game thread is the the part about the Celtics, yall know how much I hate them by now.

Pricey
Jan 24, 2008, 19:15
how much do u hate them MSG? lol

MSGKnickz33
Jan 24, 2008, 19:21
how much do u hate them MSG? lol

I rooted for them last year and I was gonna try to root for them this year cuz I knew they would win anyways but i didnt think they would win like this. I predicted 55-60 wins. I actually felt bad and rooted for them at times last year but I seem to alway have problems with whatevers popular. When I use to watch wrestling I hated Stone Cold. When 50 Cent was on top I hated him, I hate Jay-Z, the Patriots, the Spurs, the Celtics but I do like the Yankees. All the media attention that the Celtics get, I turn on NBATV or ESPN and they talkin about the Celtics.

Pricey
Jan 24, 2008, 19:25
U were stone cold? nah man i was always The Rock or Edge but WWE is crap now.
Ive always hated the Yankees, if i was from NY i would be a Mets man. Im a LA Angels fella so. I sorta liked Spurs cause of Robinson but yeah once sides start winning more u sorta start to like them less. Its natural.

Eddy Currys House Special
Jan 24, 2008, 19:47
my college had the tickets on sale for 5 dollars...I'm going tomorrow too with mad college heads


there's a college that let you in? :shock2:

abcd
Jan 24, 2008, 19:50
wow...EAST SUCKZ!...we can get to the 8th spot easily...i saw west and holy shyt...all the teams in there will probably all be fighting for 3rd in the east...there all like Orlando records...and thats like the 6 seeds and shyt...wow we can get 2 8th just need a good stretch....and oo yea...another lost in this 1...phily can beat us like nutting
I wouldn't go that far.Statistically, the Knicks have a chance to make the playoffs.But when a team takes 2 1/2 months just to get 1 3 game winning streak, that tells you there is no way the Knicks can make it.Not with their terrible defense and their lack of consistency.And you must also remember that the Knicks were 29-34 (last year) with the 8th spot, and then they started losing games.Even if a miracle happens and the Knicks get to 8th place, they still gotta maintain it, which the Knicks have proven they are too inconsistent to do so.You are using logic with your decision making, but you must remember that the Knicks have no logic to them.They're the circus.They're a team that beats the Jazz one day,then loses to the Bobcats the next.

nyKnicks126
Jan 24, 2008, 20:27
Yo man I am at section 305 row c seats 5-8 me, my pops, my uncle (big dude), and my cousin will be there. If you want to come to section be my guest. I am Matt. You probably know how I look like from youtube, and myspace. during halftime, or the pregame if you want come down then that would be cool.

jimkcchief88
Jan 24, 2008, 20:38
The Sixers main gun is Andre Igudala. If he gets off to a fast start we are in trouble. I saw them in person for the Bulls home opener and the Bulls got spanked because they didn't take the Sixers seriously. The Sixers have fallen on rough times as of late but, are still a dangerous team. MSG nice job on the game thread as always. Still hatin' on the Celts that's funny. NBA league pass is free this week for all who have acess so I will be tuning in. See you tomorrow nite!!!

MSGKnickz33
Jan 25, 2008, 15:39
Thanx for the props, its appreciated these game threads take a long time to make. About 3 hours to gametime, any predictions? 76ers by 5......They owned us in December. For whatever reason Zach randolph was non-existant against Reggie Evans. I would think the quick athletics power forwards would shut down Z-Bo, not an undersized slower pf like Evans. We'll see what happens 2nite.

abcd
Jan 25, 2008, 17:59
Thanx for the props, its appreciated these game threads take a long time to make. About 3 hours to gametime, any predictions? 76ers by 5......They owned us in December. For whatever reason Zach randolph was non-existant against Reggie Evans. I would think the quick athletics power forwards would shut down Z-Bo, not an undersized slower pf like Evans. We'll see what happens 2nite.
There's always that weird player that people struggle against.Charles Barkley said he struggled against Popeye Jones.And David Lee was giving Yao Ming problems, when he guarded him earlier this season.So I guess Randolph's weird nemisis is Reggie Evans. I hope this isn't true, cause we're gonna need another double-double from Randolph, if we're gonna win this game.I don't expect Richardson to play well tonight, cause he's been struggling all season, so I expect someone else to pick up the slack, like Crawford,Curry,Randolph, or Nate, or maybe even David Lee.

Kiyaman
Jan 25, 2008, 18:52
Knicks Started Mardy Collins, great move.
If Mardy Collins play over 26 minutes the Knicks will WIN this game vs BUM Sixers.

Kiyaman
Jan 25, 2008, 18:59
The Knicks had the BEST Backcourt Tandem for "NO-DEFENSE Crawford" in Mardy Collins and refuse to force the two to bond in the backcourt.
Lastseason you never seen "Crawford & Collins" on the court together.

LJ4ptplay
Jan 25, 2008, 19:07
O.K. Calvin Booth may be the ugliest player in the NBA.

http://www.hoopsvibe.com/IMG/Calvin_Booth-arton20876-240x240.jpg

looks like humpty hump...

http://singingfool.com/photos/302/012706_8.jpg

Kiyaman
Jan 25, 2008, 19:10
With the Collins & Crawford backcourt Tandem all the Knicks have to do is add Nate as the third Guard, with Balkman & Chandler getting the majority of playingtime at the SF.
That would give this Knick Team a bonafied offense/defense backcourt unit with huge help from the SF position in controling the tempo of the game vs teams like the Sixers whom dont have their game plan tight.

Kiyaman
Jan 25, 2008, 19:17
Nice move putting in Balkman & Jefferies, but Lee & Curry are still on the court with Curry baffled on position. Nate could use either Crawford or Jones.

MSGKnickz33
Jan 25, 2008, 19:22
There's always that weird player that people struggle against.Charles Barkley said he struggled against Popeye Jones.And David Lee was giving Yao Ming problems, when he guarded him earlier this season.So I guess Randolph's weird nemisis is Reggie Evans. I hope this isn't true, cause we're gonna need another double-double from Randolph, if we're gonna win this game.I don't expect Richardson to play well tonight, cause he's been struggling all season, so I expect someone else to pick up the slack, like Crawford,Curry,Randolph, or Nate, or maybe even David Lee.

lol I remember Barkley sayin that. For some reason Popeye Jones, one of the ugliest players of his time owned Barkley. Z-Bo has already played better in 12 minutes then he did in those 2 games in December, he has 6 points and 6 rebounds. I wish Richardson would start playin better, I was almost ready to by a Q-Rich jersey before the season but once the season began he was terrible. He has finally showed some (few) signs of life in the past week or 2 but Im not gettin ready to buy a jersey again. He still hasnt proved nothin and played real bad against the Celtics. Oh yeah, he would still F*ck Pierce up and I hope the Minnesota Celtics beat the Boston Celtics tonight. I wanna see Al Jefferson dunk on and outplay Gay G (The Big Stick-it).


Knicks Started Mardy Collins, great move.
If Mardy Collins play over 26 minutes the Knicks will WIN this game vs BUM Sixers.

Its about time Collins gets some minutes. One thing he does well is rebounds. Hes had problems with turnovers but in his 8 and a half minutes of play he didnt have one.


O.K. Calvin Booth may be the ugliest player in the NBA.

http://www.hoopsvibe.com/IMG/Calvin_Booth-arton20876-240x240.jpg

looks like humpty hump...

http://singingfool.com/photos/302/012706_8.jpg

Good Find, definitly one of the top 10 ugliest.

jimkcchief88
Jan 25, 2008, 19:26
Another highlight move by Jamal. The shake, bake, blowbye, and dish for 2!!!If Jamal were James Bond he would drink his martinis shaken, not stirred.

Kiyaman
Jan 25, 2008, 19:32
Nate or Collins should always be on the court, what is the matter with our ex-player PG Coach Isiah Thomas?

Crawford is not a PG! his passing skillz are terrible (Bad timing).

MSGKnickz33
Jan 25, 2008, 19:36
When it comes to passin I think Jamal is inconsistent. He does make good passes sometimes but he has some passes that are way off. Overall Jamal is inconsistent (on offense), he never plays any defense.

Kiyaman
Jan 25, 2008, 19:41
lol I remember Barkley sayin that. For some reason Popeye Jones, one of the ugliest players of his time owned Barkley. Z-Bo has already played better in 12 minutes then he did in those 2 games in December, he has 6 points and 6 rebounds. I wish Richardson would start playin better, I was almost ready to by a Q-Rich jersey before the season but once the season began he was terrible. He has finally showed some (few) signs of life in the past week or 2 but Im not gettin ready to buy a jersey again. He still hasnt proved nothin and played real bad against the Celtics. Oh yeah, he would still F*ck Pierce up and I hope the Minnesota Celtics beat the Boston Celtics tonight. I wanna see Al Jefferson dunk on and outplay Gay G (The Big Stick-it).



Its about time Collins gets some minutes. One thing he does well is rebounds. Hes had problems with turnovers but in his 8 and a half minutes of play he didnt have one.



Good Find, definitly one of the top 10 ugliest.

Mardy Collins need consecutive playingtime to get familiar with the NBA.
Collins needs to know that he will get decent playingtime in every game to bring his confidence level up to his original born talent.
All PG make mistakes and turnovers within their first few minutes on the court.

MSGKnickz33
Jan 25, 2008, 19:46
Mardy Collins need consecutive playingtime to get familiar with the NBA.
Collins needs to know that he will get decent playingtime in every game to bring his confidence level up to his original born talent.
All PG make mistakes and turnovers within their first few minutes on the court.
I agree, I want to see him get consecutive playingtime. Im with you on all the young players (no homo), Mardy Wilson Chandler and Randolph Morris should all be gettin playin time. With Starbury injured Mardy Collins is needed. Did Isiah forget about the way he played at the end of last season while gettin consistent minutes?

Kiyaman
Jan 25, 2008, 19:50
Cheating Mardy Collins out of playingtime for Fred Jones, Marbury, and Crawford at the "Point position" is why this Knick Team only have 13 WINS in 41 games.

MSGKnickz33
Jan 25, 2008, 19:57
Other then Marbury I agree, Fred Jones and Crawford stole minutes from Collins.

Kiyaman
Jan 25, 2008, 19:59
When it comes to passin I think Jamal is inconsistent. He does make good passes sometimes but he has some passes that are way off. Overall Jamal is inconsistent (on offense), he never plays any defense.

Jamal is strictly a SG that plays worst defense than Allan Houston.
At least Allan Houston knew how to front his man so well for him not to dribble pass him, and let the coach know that he was not a PG in any capacity so let Sprewell play the PG. But Jamal is not Man enough to say to the coach that "I need all my energy at the SG position late in the game so keep me a PG in the game with me.".

GoKnIcKsDLEE42
Jan 25, 2008, 19:59
zach hasn't shot this good in awhile. I think we're guna be ok

GoKnIcKsDLEE42
Jan 25, 2008, 20:02
Cheating Mardy Collins out of playingtime for Fred Jones, Marbury, and Crawford at the "Point position" is why this Knick Team only have 13 WINS in 41 games.
yeah I agree exept 4 the Marbury part. How do u consider a top 10 pg a waste of minutes?

MSGKnickz33
Jan 25, 2008, 20:02
Jamal is strictly a SG that plays worst defense than Allan Houston.
At least Allan Houston knew how to front his man so well for him not to dribble pass him, and let the coach know that he was not a PG in any capacity so let Sprewell play the PG. But Jamal is not Man enough to say to the coach that "I need all my energy at the SG position late in the game so keep me a PG in the game with me.".

That might have somethin to do with the #11 connection, Crawfords on Isiahs D*ck and would never go against him.

MSGKnickz33
Jan 25, 2008, 20:06
yeah I agree exept 4 the Marbury part. How do u consider a top 10 pg a waste of minutes?

You might have just provoked another Marbury war but I gotcha back like the song by Gza, didnt know he had a video to it.

pSQieA85arg

GoKnIcKsDLEE42
Jan 25, 2008, 20:15
ahaha yeah when I hit post reply I was like oh here we go again lol. but I don't feel like fighting now I'm kinda tired lol. We should make an official starbury war thread so we don't trash all the other threads lol.

Knicks betta get there heads in the game quick

GoKnIcKsDLEE42
Jan 25, 2008, 20:21
Does anywun know wat jamal has been wearing on his shoulder for the past month? I know he was hurt but it wasn't his shoulder.

MSGKnickz33
Jan 25, 2008, 20:24
ahaha yeah when I hit post reply I was like oh here we go again lol. but I don't feel like fighting now I'm kinda tired lol. We should make an official starbury war thread so we don't trash all the other threads lol.

Knicks betta get there heads in the game quick

Im tired of fightin about Stabury too but if it happens im not stayin out of it. I was thinkin about startin an official Starbury war thread, next time a battle comes up thats what we gotta do.

It looks like Crawfords run is over, hes only shootin 2-9. What a pass from Zach Randolph. He would be one of my favorite players if he was a better team player, hes got so much ability and talent but hes wasting it in NY. Hes without question a way better passer then Curry (when he wants to be).

GoKnIcKsDLEE42
Jan 25, 2008, 20:27
Who saw that quote by dunleavy???? That got me pissed!

MSGKnickz33
Jan 25, 2008, 20:28
we got a thread on here about that, ABCD kimbo sliced/deboed/sonned Dunleavy

Kiyaman
Jan 25, 2008, 20:32
Why is Q.Richardson getting playingtime when Jefferies & Balkman is 10 times better than him even Jefferies & Balkman Jumpshot is more dependable than Q.Rich.

Kiyaman
Jan 25, 2008, 20:35
Zach Randolph need to take most of his jumpshot from the key of the fouline, this way his defender dont help defend the paint.