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donchris
Dec 15, 2008, 16:06
According to Rocky Mountain News the Denver Nuggest are shopping Linas Kleiza.

Newsday reported New York turned down an offer of forward David Lee for Kleiza.

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/dec/14/nuggets-report-nuggets-measure-themselves-elite/

Kleiza's having a slow start but he's a beast in the paint. (or was) I wouldn't trade Lee for him but I'd still try to work out a deal. This would give us a nice supporting cast for who ever we go after in 2010.

TunerAddict
Dec 15, 2008, 16:53
Hes a good player. Should deff look into it. How about Curry? They could use a legit paint scorer...

DaTPRiNCE
Dec 15, 2008, 18:15
he'snice and all but i wouldnt give up Lee or Nate to get him he would really help us with his shot off the bench him coming off the bench with Nate would be lethal

WVKnickfan
Dec 15, 2008, 22:33
How about JJ,Curry for Linas Kleiza?

D-Lee42fan
Dec 15, 2008, 22:42
yeah Kleiza is a badass but dont trade LEE for him, im not in favor of that, i do like that proposed trade curry for Kleiza though. haha.

rollingstone
Dec 16, 2008, 00:37
the problem with Denver is that they dont have many contract to trade that arent their starters
so its hard to make a deal with them unless its three - way
Kleiza has too dam small contract lol

I think they would go for Curry+Lee for Kleiza (great for both i think), they arent saving cap space for 2010, but they just dont have short contracts to throw in to make it work :/

Edit - forgot about their short deals that became available for trading since December 15. Now its possible for them to trade Curry+Lee for Atkins+Kleiza+Steven Hunter + one of their 800k contracts

rollingstone
Dec 16, 2008, 01:47
one thing about Kleiza - he's looking for about 25 mil, 4 years deal after the season - which he is worth, but maybe not to a team with LeBron, since he would be LeBron's backup
He can get around 25 mil in Europe, with no taxes, so dont think he would go for much less

Kiyaman
Dec 16, 2008, 06:03
Denver have to think that Donnie Walsh is the idiot of NBA Basketball after we gave them an all-around hustling player "Tazman Balkman" whom energy off the bench is more dominating than Kleiza or dum-dum Timmy Thomas.

I too, would've tried my luck again on Walsh to see if he would give me back change for $100 dollars when I only gave him $10 dollars the first time (2nd round pick).

Kleiza for Lee....now that is a BIG JOKE! inwhich Donnie Walsh trading potential invited such an offer to be offered to our organization.

Kleiza is a defenseless player that cant average 10 points a game from 8 to 10 shots this season. He supposed to be an offensive threat off the bench with J.R. Smith. PG-Billups might not be happy with Kleiza performance.
Hopefully, this trade rumor will make Kleiza work overtime on his offensive game to make up for his poor defense. Plus the Knicks dont need another one dimensional 6.8 SF, we have Q.Rich, Jefferies, Galinari, and Timmy Thomas at that position inwhich we need to get rid of.

rollingstone
Dec 16, 2008, 08:31
Denver have to think that Donnie Walsh is the idiot of NBA Basketball after we gave them an all-around hustling player "Tazman Balkman" whom energy off the bench is more dominating than Kleiza

Kleiza is a defenseless player that cant average 10 points a game from 8 to 10 shots this season. He supposed to be an offensive threat off the bench with J.R. Smith. PG-Billups might not be happy with Kleiza performance.
Hopefully, this trade rumor will make Kleiza work overtime on his offensive game to make up for his poor defense. Plus the Knicks dont need another one dimensional 6.8 SF, we have Q.Rich, Jefferies, Galinari, and Timmy Thomas at that position inwhich we need to get rid of.

lol @ Balkman is better than Kleiza
Kleiza got skills and muscle, Balkman got athletism and energy. these players are so totally different, its funny to even compare them. they both hustle their butts off on the court, thats the only similar thing about them

Kleiza is no SF in our team, he's a 245 pounds all-muscle PF in D'Antoni's system. The guy was one of the top around the rim finishers last season. He's all about running, driving and drawing fouls near the rim. Hell knows why Karl is mostly using him to shoot from 3 in Denver. Karl is a pretty bad coach imo, he's lucky Billups came there and saved him from losing the job

Kleiza cant defend most starting SFs, but he's strong enough to push around most starting PFs.
Comparing him to a 208 pounds energy guy like Balkman is ridiculous :)

Now trading Lee for Kleiza straight up makes little sense, but if we can get rid of one bad contract on the way, that deal is more than good for us.

The only thing that worries me is his future in NY - the guy is pretty much same height and weight as LeBron, and would figure to be his backup. Not sure we could pay LeBron's backup the money that the other teams will throw at Kleiza this summer

metrocard
Dec 16, 2008, 09:22
Balkamn > Klieza, Balkman is taking his minutes and role in denver.

rollingstone
Dec 16, 2008, 09:40
Balkamn > Klieza, Balkman is taking his minutes and role in denver.

It's just wrong.

Kleiza is playing 22.6 minutes instead of 23.9, but that mostly comes from K-Mart being healthier and playing more. Kleiza is actually used much more at SF than last year - he is pretty much reduced to perimeter forward in Karl's system now, almost half of his shots are coming from 3pt land this season (it used to be less than 1/3 in previous seasons)

He isn't used as a small ball PF nearly as much as before. which is kind of a shame, since that's where Kleiza was at his best

DaTPRiNCE
Dec 16, 2008, 10:43
i would like us to get Smith from Denver he's real good and would be nice in our system...

rollingstone
Dec 16, 2008, 11:00
JR Smith is quite good, but he's also crazier than Ron Artest
We must stay away

metrocard
Dec 16, 2008, 11:04
Artest isn't crazy...Kleiza isn't really that good, Balkman is establishing himself in Denver, which is forcing Kleiza out of town.

rollingstone
Dec 16, 2008, 11:36
the only way Balkman is forcing Kleiza out of town is by not being able to shoot from 3.
which gives Karl another excuse to use Kleiza as their 3pt shooting guy off the bench
Balkman has more DNP-CDs than he has 23 min+ games, while Kleiza is averaging 23 min and playing in each. where are all these ideas about Balkman's establishment coming from

about Artest - fudge it, im gonna stay out of this one
guess we'll have to agree to disagree here

metrocard
Dec 16, 2008, 12:09
Nah, Artest isn't crazy, only a hateful bias man would believe so. He's really a family guy and a great teammate.

Kleiza been playing for George Karl for years but still hasn't got a bigger role, Denver's experiment with Kleiza obviously failed, now they're looking to better things, like the Tazman.

rollingstone
Dec 16, 2008, 13:22
Nah, Artest isn't crazy, only a hateful bias man would believe so. He's really a family guy and a great teammate.


Are u implying that crazy people dont love their families? Only a hateful biased man would believe so. U should be ashamed. Even a completely mentally disabled person is still a person, can love and be loved by their family and friends. If u think otherwise - better sort out your views buddy.

As far as im concerned, i wish Artest stays on track, that will make some team much more competative.
But that wont prevent me from saying that a 23 year old kid from Denver called JR Smith is a similar liability to Artest, and even much bigger. Which is exactly what im saying


Kleiza been playing for George Karl for years but still hasn't got a bigger role, Denver's experiment with Kleiza obviously failed, now they're looking to better things, like the Tazman.


Now about Kleiza - you mean he didnt get Carmelo Anthony's role? Ok lol.... a guy must totally suk, if he cant push Carmelo out of SF job.

SpursFan4Life
Dec 16, 2008, 17:22
Nah, Artest isn't crazy, only a hateful bias man would believe so. He's really a family guy and a great teammate.

I seem to remember him requesting time off to record a rap album. Sounds like an outstanding teammate.

KBlack25
Dec 16, 2008, 17:25
I seem to remember him requesting time off to record a rap album. Sounds like an outstanding teammate.

I think it was time off to go promote his rap album, which makes him an even better teammate!

Paul1355
Dec 16, 2008, 18:02
This deal was shot down by DOnnie Walsh because the Nuggets wanted David Lee straight up for Kleiza...not happening. We could use Lee in a better deal to get rid of a guy with some cap thats hurting us....hopefully Q Rich goes. This guy is an embarissment to this team.

Anybody watch him when they mic him up? He tries to be a leader on the team and then he misses shots and gets turnovers, he's horrible.

DaTPRiNCE
Dec 16, 2008, 18:12
i agree with metro artest isnt crazy what has he done that was so crazy, him being a bad teammate(i think he's a good teammate) has nothing to do with him being crazy, he's crazy because he ran into the stands after a fan threw a cup of beer at him? im pretty sure anyone here would do the same thing artest did after getting something thrown at you especially when u were just minding your own business,

DANUTZ39
Dec 16, 2008, 18:51
i agree with metro artest isnt crazy what has he done that was so crazy, him being a bad teammate(i think he's a good teammate) has nothing to do with him being crazy, he's crazy because he ran into the stands after a fan threw a cup of beer at him? im pretty sure anyone here would do the same thing artest did after getting something thrown at you especially when u were just minding your own business,

I think artest is a good basketball player, even maybe a good teammate, but the dude is just crazy(or very stupid). You dont run into stands after drunk fans (who by the way pays your sorry azz salary). I think he should know he is in the entertainment business (and makes a lot of money cuz of that) not in some hood project in Queens. If he dosen't realise that he is either crazy or very stupid.

SpursFan4Life
Dec 16, 2008, 19:12
I think it was time off to go promote his rap album, which makes him an even better teammate!
Ah right. My mistake. Also, that whole jumping into the stands and punching a fan thing comes to mind.

jimkcchief88
Dec 16, 2008, 22:02
Kleiza is tight (Hey MIZZOU) but I don't know if I trade him for David Lee straight up. Kleiza sure would florish in D'antoni's system though because he can run the floor and shoot the 3.

metrocard
Dec 16, 2008, 22:15
Whats "crazy"?

Where did I say crazy people can't love their family?

I said Artest is a family man, meaning he has a lot of good ethics within the family and is a man amongst men.

You're a nobody, don't try to jump on me with this "buddy" ****, you'll get pimp slapped, fool.

Right, you're assuming a lot of unstated things now, I guess when you're a nobody and have nothing to talk about to a God like me.

I'm just being an ******* and masturbating my ego don't get too bent out of shape like the others and form an coalition of angry virgins who want to kill me.

Kleiza isn't really going anywhere in Denver and will be replaced by balkman.

Kleiza's 15 and 6 per 36 min < Balkman's 10 and 10, 1 blk, stl, great man to man defense.

Denver is winning now, and Kleiza won't really be apart of it.

Peace.

rollingstone
Dec 17, 2008, 03:25
Hehe dont worry Metro, I dont want to kill u, im having fun with u
i just love to rile up people when they seem to ask for it :)

metrocard
Dec 17, 2008, 05:29
You can't though.
Your offline life must pretty boring for you to say such a thing.
You got bodied, but realize you have nothing insightful to say so you come up with some homosexual **** that you like to have fun with me? I don't even read your post(till you threw yourself at me for attention).
I'm really an obsession.

rollingstone
Dec 17, 2008, 07:41
lol i really pissed u off in this thread didnt i? :)
well well metro bark some more
post me another 100 word story about your offline life
entertaining, and yea, addictive :)

Paul1355
Dec 17, 2008, 10:24
Whats "crazy"?

Where did I say crazy people can't love their family?

I said Artest is a family man, meaning he has a lot of good ethics within the family and is a man amongst men.

You're a nobody, don't try to jump on me with this "buddy" ****, you'll get pimp slapped, fool.

Right, you're assuming a lot of unstated things now, I guess when you're a nobody and have nothing to talk about to a God like me.

I'm just being an ******* and masturbating my ego don't get too bent out of shape like the others and form an coalition of angry virgins who want to kill me.

Kleiza isn't really going anywhere in Denver and will be replaced by balkman.

Kleiza's 15 and 6 per 36 min < Balkman's 10 and 10, 1 blk, stl, great man to man defense.

Denver is winning now, and Kleiza won't really be apart of it.

Peace.

If Balkman is going to replace Kleiza then he can stay in Denver. Thats just sad.

Eddy Currys House Special
Dec 17, 2008, 12:59
Metrotard at it again. Balkman's fresh off of getting two dnps against Dallas and Houston (on the second night of a back to back). I love what Balkman brings to a team but if anybody thinks that he's anything more than a 7th or 8th man on a good team they are completely lost. Kleiza is a starter on half the teams in the league, including the Knicks and Nets.

As for the proposed trade I wouldn't do it either. The way he's playing and how D'Antoni's system increases a player's numbers I reckon that by the tradeline Lee would have even more trade value.

jpz17
Dec 17, 2008, 18:34
you can't compare Linas and Renaldo.. they are too different.. Linas is ok on d and Balkmen sucks at shooting.. Kleiza has dropped over 40 a couple times though.. I say go for him in FA

donchris
Dec 17, 2008, 19:03
Denver have to think that Donnie Walsh is the idiot of NBA Basketball after we gave them an all-around hustling player "Tazman Balkman" whom energy off the bench is more dominating than Kleiza or dum-dum Timmy Thomas.

I too, would've tried my luck again on Walsh to see if he would give me back change for $100 dollars when I only gave him $10 dollars the first time (2nd round pick).

Kleiza for Lee....now that is a BIG JOKE! inwhich Donnie Walsh trading potential invited such an offer to be offered to our organization.

Kleiza is a defenseless player that cant average 10 points a game from 8 to 10 shots this season. He supposed to be an offensive threat off the bench with J.R. Smith. PG-Billups might not be happy with Kleiza performance.
Hopefully, this trade rumor will make Kleiza work overtime on his offensive game to make up for his poor defense. Plus the Knicks dont need another one dimensional 6.8 SF, we have Q.Rich, Jefferies, Galinari, and Timmy Thomas at that position inwhich we need to get rid of.

Damn Kiyaman did Donnie Walsh do something to some one in your family? You seem to have it out for him. The irony is you think a trade of Kleiza for Lee is a bad move and Walsh agrees with you, or you agree with Walsh. Walsh turned down the deal according to this article. Don't you think that's a good thing? Still no props for Walsh?

This talk about Balkman being better then Kleiza is utter nonsense in my opinion. Balkman is a nice role player that's got some defensive skill but Kleiza can take over a game. Metro's got a good point in saying the experiment failed. That could be true, or it could be that George Karl doesn't know how to coach C/F. This guy did oversee trading Camby didn't he? Let's face it, Billips saved Karl's job. He was on his way out, now his team is #2 in the western conference.

Back to Keliza, I'd love to see us find a way to keep Lee and bring on Keliza, so what if he backs up Labron in 2010, that's assuming we even get James. We could make a playoff run this year if we could get Keliza and if Gallo comes back and meshes with the team. Some one said Rose and Curry for Keliza, that could be a possiblity if a third team were involved.

jpz17
Dec 17, 2008, 20:12
Damn Kiyaman did Donnie Walsh do something to some one in your family? You seem to have it out for him. The irony is you think a trade of Kleiza for Lee is a bad move and Walsh agrees with you, or you agree with Walsh. Walsh turned down the deal according to this article. Don't you think that's a good thing? Still no props for Walsh?

This talk about Balkman being better then Kleiza is utter nonsense in my opinion. Balkman is a nice role player that's got some defensive skill but Kleiza can take over a game. Metro's got a good point in saying the experiment failed. That could be true, or it could be that George Karl doesn't know how to coach C/F. This guy did oversee trading Camby didn't he? Let's face it, Billips saved Karl's job. He was on his way out, now his team is #2 in the western conference.

Back to Keliza, I'd love to see us find a way to keep Lee and bring on Keliza, so what if he backs up Labron in 2010, that's assuming we even get James. We could make a playoff run this year if we could get Keliza and if Gallo comes back and meshes with the team. Some one said Rose and Curry for Keliza, that could be a possiblity if a third team were involved.

:agreed: Co-sign!! Same type of thing I was saying except much more longer and explained.. You are turning back into that dominate poster you always were!!:thumbsup: You are for sure a top 10 now.. unless you talk about Marbury then you get a little crazy, but don't we all..

knickzrulezH20
Dec 17, 2008, 21:20
:agreed: Co-sign!! Same type of thing I was saying except much more longer and explained.. You are turning back into that dominate poster you always were!!:thumbsup: You are for sure a top 10 now.. unless you talk about Marbury then you get a little crazy, but don't we all..


lol jst congratulate him on the good post no need to get into the "top 50" **** or w.e, nd yea donchris cudnt have said it beta

dave2138
Dec 18, 2008, 00:04
he's crazy because he ran into the stands after a fan threw a cup of beer at him? im pretty sure anyone here would do the same thing artest did after getting something thrown at you especially when u were just minding your own business,

A sane person would have probably just got a towel..

metrocard
Dec 18, 2008, 00:20
lol jst congratulate him on the good post no need to get into the "top 50" **** or w.e, nd yea donchris cudnt have said it beta

Whiteboy, fall back. JPZ would **** on your mother's bed. lol @ this dude all concerned with the "top 50".

Don Chris speaks the truth, except when he disagrees with me, lol.

DaTPRiNCE
Dec 18, 2008, 07:52
A sane person would have probably just got a towel..

not nessecarily loll....how bout i throw a cup of beer at you when ur minding your own business and steamed....lets see how u react loll.......all im saying is that if i was in his(Artest) shoes i would have reacted the same way and that doesnt make me crazy deos it?

dave2138
Dec 18, 2008, 12:01
depends..if I told you have the choice to

a)Get a towel, play for the rest of the season and collect 6 or so million $

b)Attempt at throwing a punch at a stupid, drunk fan, not play the rest of the season and not collect 6 or so million $.

I'm actually glad that whole event happen, that was a very entertaining 15 minutes of television for me.

I don't really think he is crazy, ... but I don't think he should be allowed to go near sharp objects or within 100 feet of any woman or child.

knickzrulezH20
Dec 19, 2008, 00:18
depends..if I told you have the choice to

a)Get a towel, play for the rest of the season and collect 6 or so million $

b)Attempt at throwing a punch at a stupid, drunk fan, not play the rest of the season and not collect 6 or so million $.

I'm actually glad that whole event happen, that was a very entertaining 15 minutes of television for me.

I don't really think he is crazy, ... but I don't think he should be allowed to go near sharp objects or within 100 feet of any woman or child.


same 4 me, nd i dont got anything against artest, he is a top SF in this league and i love his toughness he brings to any team he goes to (look at what happened to the pacers and kings when they lost him) but i feel sorry for the pacers organization. tht entertainin 15 min for us, cost them a title. that was their year, jermaine o'neal was a beast in the paint, and artest was a top 3 SF. and tht one incident screwed tht team nd forced them to rebuild earlier than they should have

trueOrangeandBlue
Dec 19, 2008, 09:38
Artest is a great defender. I always liked him since his St Johns days. Any time I heard grumbling bout him coming to NY I liked what I heard. Problem was even Zeke was affraid to have a whole team of problem players. I guess that was the only thing that would scare him away from a big name. I dunno, you can put him on any teams top scorer and he will keep them in check pretty well. Just my :2cents: on him.

As for the incident at the palace.... I have a pretty hot head myself and would have reacted the same.... but I also dont make millions of dollars to play basketball...