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JayJ44
Mar 14, 2009, 23:59
Since he's been starting, he's been playing well. He had 22 points and 11 rebounds and led his team in +/- tonight against the Clippers. The other night he had 14 points and 14 rebounds against the Thunder. Would have been good in this system...

I'm talking about Renaldo Balkman btw. In case you didn't know his nickname.

metrocard
Mar 15, 2009, 00:44
I miss defense.

dave2138
Mar 15, 2009, 02:09
defense? whats that?

Kiyaman
Mar 15, 2009, 04:10
I miss the Tazman every time I see "Q.Richardson or Jefferies" on the court wearing a Knick uniform.

NY_Swagger
Mar 15, 2009, 13:22
Hello all, I'm a 'newbie'...he would have gave us that energy we lack when nate is starting...I'm happy to see his production going up with the minutes.

JayJ44
Mar 16, 2009, 00:54
Why doesn't Renaldo Balkman get more minutes?
More people have asked your friendly neighborhood columnist the above question than any other this season. In turn, I've asked George Karl the question multiple times throughout the season. Each time Karl's response has basically centered around Balkman being an insurance policy.
To some extent this makes sense given most coaches only like to go eight or nine players deep. With the injuries the Nuggets have experienced of late, though, Balkman has seen increased playing time. And as his minutes have increased, so has his production.
The question that remains is whether or not he will continue to see minutes once everyone is healthy again in Denver. Considering the team is 6-1 when Balkman starts, one would have to believe Karl will find a way to keep him a part of the rotation, right?
"There are choices on this team," Karl told HOOPSWORLD. "I don't think you can play everybody. If you have 20 to 25 minutes I would rather give one guy 25 minutes. So I think there are choices. When Kenyon's healthy there will be a choice to play Renaldo or Linas, and that's a choice that will have to be made in certain situations and circumstances. I'm happy for (Balkman). I think he's persevered through a difficult season. I told him a long time ago that you'll never know when you'll be playing, but be ready to play. I think he has done that very, very well."
Certainly Balkman doesn't have a very refined offensive game, and that's part of the reason Kleiza has been seeing the lion's share of the minutes off the bench. However, since the All-Star break Kleiza has been largely M.I.A.
Balkman, on the other hand, has been nothing short of fantastic. Over the course of his last three games he has grabbed 38 rebounds and scored 32 points. Perhaps most impressive, he's put up those numbers without having a single play run for him.
"It was great for him to fill in that spot for K-Mart," said Carmelo Anthony. "Coming in and grabbing boards and just hustling, I think that really got us going."
Opponents of the Nuggets have taken notice of what Balkman brings to the table, too.
"Those type of guys you don't judge by their stats," explained Oklahoma City head coach Scott Brooks. "He is an energy guy and has been terrific for them."
"He is a guy that fills the role of (Eduardo) Najera from last year," added former Nugget and current Thunder guard Earl Watson.
Even as well as Balkman has played, though, there's no guarantee he will get consistent minutes moving forward.
When asked about being ready to take advantage of his minutes, Balkman said: "You have to be. If I don't, you won't see me. When (Karl) calls my name I just have to be ready. He called my name (Wednesday morning) at shoot-around and I had to be ready."
For people who don't get to see Balkman behind the scenes, understand he's been professional all season long. There has been no moping or pouting in the locker room despite his inconsistent minutes. So whether he gets minutes or not, expect Balkman to continue to play the role of good soldier.
That said, with the Nuggets in the middle of a heated race for Northwest Division supremacy Karl can no longer afford to give Kleiza minutes hoping he'll come around. The Nuggets are in a place where every game matters, and if Balkman gives the team the best chance to win and it requires Kleiza to have a seat then that's what needs to be done.
Anything less could cost the Nuggets a division title and home-court advantage in the first round of the playoffs.

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=11920

goldenchild1688
Mar 16, 2009, 01:16
ive been saying this since we first traded him

thought it was a bad move then and its looking evem more so everytime he
gets the chance to play and produces like this.

hes a better shot blocker, rebounder then jeffries and he runs the floor well and can finish around the rim even though he lacks any offensive game. well so does jeffries, hes not much better on offense at all lol

reallly wish we wouldve kept him

i believe the only reason he was traded was because we desperately wanted to move jeffries and play him and hope we could find a suitor. but i knew anyone with sense knew that his play was not gonna justify his contract and interest anyone in signing him

LeFlume
Mar 16, 2009, 07:44
I miss Treovor Ariza, when we drafted i him I saw the future in him. I was right but I was wrong. He have been great for The Lakers.

Kiyaman
Mar 16, 2009, 09:32
When the Billups trade to Denver was made I thought.....Billups, Prince, and Big-Ben....their DEFENSE made a Championship Team in Detroit....so you know I was thinking Billups, Balkman, and K-Mart, Trio-DEFENSE in Denver will be a stalemate to the Western Conference best Defensive Team the Spurs. Watchout Lakers!
But coach Karl still have to much LUV for Klenza, Smith, and Nene getting above 28 mpg this season....even when Carmelo was out with injuries. It took a two week injury to K-Mart for coach Karl to recognize Balkman overall B-Ball high IQ in passing, picking, put-backs, rebounds, and hustle-scoring.

I know lee & Nate sure miss Balkman's Tazman hustle performance....Duhon would've LUV to add the Tazman to his give and go for more assist per game, and Chandler miss Balkman's picking his man off down low or up high to give him that first step to slash or go for his jump shot.

Kiyaman
Mar 16, 2009, 09:33
Balkman stat numbers dont compare close to the "hustle-performance" he give in the paint or on the open court.....Denvers (no playoff strategy) coach George Karl is learning that Balkman brings all kind of energy to his teammates while on the court.

Its nice to see Renaldo Balkman and Trevor Ariza starting for playoff teams.

Toons
Mar 16, 2009, 10:40
no its not...

KING~POETIQ
Mar 16, 2009, 13:36
Having balkman, hughes and chandler would of solidified our defense against most of the top scorers in the league (wade, lebron, kobe, etc.)

metrocard
Mar 16, 2009, 15:42
Doo Doo
Hughes
Ariza
Balkman
Thomas

could of been our defensive specialist line up.

KBlack25
Mar 16, 2009, 16:10
Doo Doo
Hughes
Ariza
Balkman
Thomas

could of been our defensive specialist line up.

No it could not have been. Hughes was traded for Tim Thomas.

Edit: Also, it could not have been because:

Ariza was traded in part for Steve Francis
Steve Francis was traded in part for Zach Randolph
Randolph was traded for Tim Thomas
Tim Thomas was traded for Hughes.

So Ariza and Hughes could not and would not have played together.

datruth
Mar 16, 2009, 16:52
No it could not have been. Hughes was traded for Tim Thomas.

i believe he's talkin about kurt thomas not tim thomas

KBlack25
Mar 16, 2009, 16:56
i believe he's talkin about kurt thomas not tim thomas

If he's talking about Kurt Thomas and not Tim Thomas, that's even more ridiculous. KT hasn't been on the Knicks since 2004-05, and has been on 3 teams since...

**** if he's gonna say KURT Thomas, why not suggest Marcus Camby?

Also, if the Knicks never trade Kurt Thomas, they never get the pick that becomes Nate Robinson. So there's that.

Dirk
Mar 16, 2009, 23:24
If he's talking about Kurt Thomas and not Tim Thomas, that's even more ridiculous. KT hasn't been on the Knicks since 2004-05, and has been on 3 teams since...

**** if he's gonna say KURT Thomas, why not suggest Marcus Camby?

Also, if the Knicks never trade Kurt Thomas, they never get the pick that becomes Nate Robinson. So there's that.

wait no i think is talking about partick Ewings :teeth:

WVKnickfan
Mar 16, 2009, 23:26
Well it looks like Balkman will probably be out for a while b/c he just pulled/strained his groin going for a rebound.

Kiyaman
Mar 17, 2009, 09:51
The point still remains the same there was no reason to trade Balkman this offseason other than personal reasons. Especially for Anthony Roberson!
SF-Q.Richardson performance in the 2007-8 season were so clueless to helping the team that it automatically put Balkman in the starting lineup for the 2008-9 season with Wilson Chandler as his backup. ****k the European rookie playingtime this season he is 19 and have alot to learn from garbage minutes.

There was no reason to trade for Norris, Marbury, Penny, Tim Thomas, Crawful, Mo Taylor, Malik, Q.Richardson, Davis, Jalen, Francis, and Zach. These players averaged $10M per season and did nothing to help this team WIN.
And the MLE signing of Baker and both J.J.'s was the icing on the cake.
It does not matter if we got draft picks Nate & Lee in the trades for an expensive cancer-player that did more damage to the team.

metrocard
Mar 17, 2009, 16:46
No it could not have been. Hughes was traded for Tim Thomas.

Edit: Also, it could not have been because:

Ariza was traded in part for Steve Francis
Steve Francis was traded in part for Zach Randolph
Randolph was traded for Tim Thomas
Tim Thomas was traded for Hughes.

So Ariza and Hughes could not and would not have played together.

Kurt Thomas, you girlfriendless internet lurking fat fool who's hungry for metrocard attention.

Thanks for another useless post.

metrocard
Mar 17, 2009, 16:50
If he's talking about Kurt Thomas and not Tim Thomas, that's even more ridiculous. KT hasn't been on the Knicks since 2004-05, and has been on 3 teams since...

**** if he's gonna say KURT Thomas, why not suggest Marcus Camby?

Also, if the Knicks never trade Kurt Thomas, they never get the pick that becomes Nate Robinson. So there's that.

Damn, you a fool.

Kurt Thomas being on a defensive squad is more ridiculous than Tim Thomas? You're just trying too hard.

Kurt Thomas has been on 3 teams, dude was still the best post defender on all those teams...their main stopper.

I mentioned KT from the Isiah Era (Layden traded Camby), I always felt like if Isiah left it alone, we would of been better off as a franchise.

KBlack25
Mar 17, 2009, 17:07
Damn, you a fool.

Kurt Thomas being on a defensive squad is more ridiculous than Tim Thomas? You're just trying too hard.

Kurt Thomas has been on 3 teams, dude was still the best post defender on all those teams...their main stopper.

I mentioned KT from the Isiah Era (Layden traded Camby), I always felt like if Isiah left it alone, we would of been better off as a franchise.


Aren't I supposed to be on your ignore list or something? In a power move to get me off the site?

metrocard
Mar 18, 2009, 23:00
You gay. :lol:

JayJ44
Mar 31, 2009, 18:55
Renaldo Balkman says he has the “heart of a lion.’’ But he usually doesn’t roar like one.
When talking about how New York gave him away last summer for next to nothing, the mild-mannered, long-haired Nuggets forward mostly has been tight-lipped. But he did offer at least one growl as he prepares Tuesday to go against his old team for the second time.
“They already do,’’ said Balkman when asked if he believes the Knicks regret trading him last summer.
The Knicks in July dealt Balkman to the Nuggets for pair of players with nonguaranteed contracts, Taurean Green and Bobby Jones and a 2010 second-round pick. The Knicks, who also threw about $500,000 Denver’s way, then waived Green and Jones.
Balkman, taken No. 20 by the Knicks in the first round of the 2006 draft and with a contract paying him $1.37 million this season, didn’t factor in their future. And with the Knicks deep into the dollar-for-dollar luxury tax, it was a cost-cutting move as they work toward having loads of salary-cap money in 2010.
Lately, the move has looked pretty good for the Nuggets. During his past 11 games, Balkman has averaged 8.8 points and 7.5 rebounds, raising his seasonal marks to 5.4 points and 4.1 rebounds over 14.9 minutes.
Until recently, Nuggets coach George Karl hadn’t used Balkman with any regularity. But Karl didn’t hesitate Dec. 28 unleashing Balkman when he first went against his old team.
Entering that game, Balkman had not played in five of Denver’s previous seven games and had logged just 11 minutes in the two in which his name was called. But Karl dusted off Balkman at Madison Square Garden, and he responded with nine points and eight rebounds in 18 minutes in a 117-110 win.
Don’t think for a picosecond Karl won’t give Balkman a long look Tuesday at the Pepsi Center.
“I think we like to have success against a team that told us they didn’t want us,’’ Karl said of Balkman’s thinking. “I think he will have some energy. (The Knicks) play the night before (at Utah).’’
Balkman tries to remain modest but can’t deny Dec. 28 was among his seasonal highlights.
“Everybody knew it was a good day for me, and we came out with a win,’’ Balkman said.
Balkman, who averaged 4.2 points and 3.8 rebounds in his two New York seasons, insists he harbors no bitterness against the Knicks for letting him go. He said he initially got the word from his agent, Andre Buck, and later talked with Knicks president Donnie Walsh.
“He was just telling me I’m a great athlete and he was sorry for letting me go, but he feels at this point (in Balkman’s career) I’m in a better place than I was in New York,’’ Balkman describing the kind way in which Walsh informed him the Knicks would be rebuilding without him.
Count at least one New York player at the time as being sorry to see Balkman go. Guard Jamal Crawford was Balkman’s teammate during his two seasons with the Knicks and began this season with New York before being dealt in November to Golden State.
“He’s a great energy guy,’’ Crawford said. “I missed him when we traded him. He’s constant energy. He can give you a big block, a big dunk, a big steal and a big rebound. He kept us in a lot of games with his energy in New York.’’
The Nuggets, trying to rebuild their frontline last summer after center Marcus Camby was dispatched in a salary dump and forward Eduardo Najera wasn’t re-signed as a free agent, were only happy to comply when Walsh, a longtime buddy of Denver executive Mark Warkentien, offered Balkman for next to nothing.
While it can’t be compared to the J.R. Smith heist of 2006, it was the second move in three years by the Nuggets in which a savvy signing by Warkentien came into play.
In March 2006, the Nuggets had interest in retaining third-string point guard Howard Eisley for the remainder of the season. With Eisley, who would never play another NBA game after that season, having little leverage, he was signed for the rest of the season and given a nonguaranteed deal for 2006-07.
The Nuggets in July 2006 then shipped Eisley and two second-round picks to Chicago for Smith. The Bulls, wanting to clear money to sign Adrian Griffin and stay under the luxury-tax line, then waived Eisley.
Griffin averaged 2.5 points for the Bulls in 2006-07 and was gone by the midpoint of the next season. Wonder if they regret that move.
A similar tactic was used by Warkentien late last season when the Nuggets gave Jones a take-it-or-leave offer of signing for the rest of the season with a nonguaranteed deal for 2008-09. Jones, who played last season for an NBA record-tying four teams, including two Denver stints, agreed to pack his suitcase one more time.
Then Jones was used along with Green, who was acquired in a February 2008 trade with Portland for Von Wafer and had a nonguaranteed deal for 2008-09, to facilitate the deal for Balkman.
Balkman showed enough in the preseason for the Nuggets to pick up his $2.11 million contract option for next season. That was an option the Knicks likely had little interest in picking up had Balkman not been moved.
“They did what they had to do,’’ Balkman said of the Knicks dealing him. “It’s all politics in this game. But I’m here for a reason.’’
The Nuggets hope that reason includes creating havoc against his old team for a second time this season

http://www.indenvertimes.com/2009/03/29/balkman-believes-knicks-regret-trading-him/



Mike D'Antoni's response when I told him that Renaldo Balkman said the Knicks "already" regret trading him:
"First of all, who's that?"
D'Antoni was about to walk away from the conversation when he realized it was a bit cold -- even for the player we all know by the nickname, "Cool" -- and explained.
“We don’t have regrets, no,” he said.
“We only had him for a little bit and he wasn’t going to play a whole lot. We don’t’ regret playing [Wilson Chandler] a lot of minutes and that would be taking Will’s minutes away and Gallo’s minutes. Now, we didn’t know that Gallo was going to be hurt like that, but when we made the trade we thought Gallo would take all the minutes up. It would be kind of crazy for even him to want to be there. So that was the thought behind it."
But it didn't stop there. This idea that the Knicks really blew it by trading Balkman away for two players -- Taurean Green and Bobby Jones -- that were then immediately waived was summed up by D'Antoni this way:
"And to be honest with you, I don’t think he would be a difference-maker.”
So there

http://blogs.trb.com/sports/basketball/knicks/blog/2009/03/no_regrets_on_balkman.html