The Difference: why it's imperative to get a 2nd 'superstar'

iSaYughh

Starter
I flip-flopped a bit on just how badly I think we need Melo. I've always wanted him, but the chance we might whiff and a basic faith in the team as a fan recently, and I began to wonder if we could just add nice, neat, well-rounded moves instead of quality ballers who fit

Iggy
Gasol
Dalembert
Pryz
Ridnour
TChandler
Varaj

etc.

We would likely be able to compete on a level equal to what we'd get if we "just got Melo". Or had to relinquish Chandler, Fields, et. al.

We'd be more *complete*

But the problem is actual the supposed solution.

We don't want to be a *complete* team. Realtically, we shouldn't strive for that right now.

Being a "complete" team basically means that IS your team. It's who you are and you'll go to battle with it for better or worse.

But let's be real, all these nice...astute...poised trades and cool players we'd be bringing in...basically make us the Hawks, maybe a bit better. Even ORL.

We lock ourselves into an assuredly GOOD position, but one locked into never being GREAT.

Getting Melo, even if we agree doesn't make us any better right away...even if we agree he brings up more problems in finding other players and moving players around.

Makes us infinitely superior if not just because he offers our team and franchise a higher ceiling. A ceiling needed to most realistically bring about a championship.

My first reaction to Melo talks, which I forgot about, was it was a slam dunk case to do what it takes to get him: for the blueprint. You pair Melo with STAT, forget everyone else...Felton, Gallo, Chandler....That is a championship look, it's a championship blueprint that now needs to be filled in. This is why we have Walsh, and why we supposedly trust him and think he's at least pretty good.

Melo + STAT and a bag of WNBA balls is closer and more poised to winning a championship and being a dynasty than the cool, well-rounded and built, *complete* lineups we are envisioning as the other solution.
 

mafra

Legend
I think it works indeed. best if we keep Fields and one of the Chandler/Gallo mix. BUT, you probably do it even if you only get to keep 1 of those 3.

Felton-Amar'e-Melo plus (Fields or Gallo or Chandler) is a good team. NOt deep, but you'll attract that and build in the offseason.

Tough enough to stop Melo or Ama're by themselves. Put them together, with Felton the 3rd option... OH BOY.
 

clumsy

Rotation player
Honestly with Mike D'Antoni as coach i don't really think we need more scoring. We are already #2 in the league in scoring.

We just need to horde Quality defensive players.
 

clumsy

Rotation player
I know Melo is better than Chandler is pure offensive talent, but it can be argued their Value is not that different.

CHandler's man defense is pretty damn good. Melo only plays it when he wants to.
 

la2ny

Starter
im sticking to what I said b4

Melo-Stat-Felton is a better core and has a better chance realing in better talent to surround them(and for cheaper) in the offseasons 2 come

than Stat-Felton
 

SSj4Wingzero

All Star
We might lead the league in scoring but we get shut down against the truly tough defensive teams. We lead the league in scoring because we had a dozen games against some truly bad defensive teams (Clippers, Nuggets, Warriors, etc.)

Play us against the Heat who wisely triple-teamed STAT and see what happened...that's why we need a better #2 option
 

Kiyaman

Legend
Is this another MELO thread

Is this another MELO Thread???

Carmelo is a SF!
The Knicks dont need anymore SF!
We have a 17-12 record based on the strong-contribution of our
offense/defense SF. The Knicks has been using a 6+ man rotation
for the majority of their wins this season.

Amare & Felton has only been 35% of the Knicks success in 29 games,
some people need to stop acting like the two-players are the entire roster.
Amare is playing like a $100M player (right now), and Felton is playing like
a top $MLE$ player.

Landry Fields is a SF contributing bigtime as a SG. He needs to come off
the bench for 28 to 32 mpg in his rookie season to dominate over oponents
bench players. Will he burn out to hit the wall before the end of the season?
HELL-YEAH! averaging 32 mpg of a 100% of pure-hustle and determination.
Walker & Mason need to be traded for a decent well playing SG to
average 18 to 24 mpg.

Toney Douglas is a dangerous 6th-Man weapon as our defensive-pressure PG,
all the NBA top-10 PG has been having problems exploiting their offensive
game when being defended by Douglas, which leads to alot of Knick
fastbreaks that Douglas is never rewarded for. Being Fields backup at SG
each game does not make Douglas a SG. Felton may have 4 years of
NBA experience over Douglas in playmaking skills, which Douglas growth as
a young upcomming player will matchup to by next season.

Wilson Chandler is a monster at SF with his all-around offense/defense attack.
He will score off of a broken play or moving without the ball, but his best
contribution is his defensive awareness at multi-position.

Dandy Gallo is finding his complimentary game as a Big-SF that could add in
the running game, and blow oponents out with his peremeter game with
fakes to get to the line in a halfcourt offense. His defense is used mostly
in the 2nd half of the game which has been well for the win.

Shawn Williams is a 6.9 SF who have been very useful off the bench and
from the peremeter, on offense he is what we want from our backup SG.
At times he does look lost at the PF position, and when oponents screen
him as a defender on their top frontcourt scorer.

Turiaf is a strong PF that will do what he have to do to defend the paint,
he is not much of a rebounder or scorer but he is that teammate on the job
screening/ picking/and bumbing bodies on both ends.

These are the players you list in a trade..... for a SG or center
Curry/ Mozgov/ Randolph/ Walker/ Mason has not found away to break
into the rotation for 12 minutes per game. Azu will not be 80% healthy
untill next season, plus Rauntins belong in the D.League.
:smokin: :gony: :smokin:
 
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