David Aldrige say Melo to Jersey will get done by next week.
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Knicks4lyfe
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Until he signs an ext, I believe it's all smoke and mirrors and face saving. Den is not gonna kill any potential deals on national tv. A lot can change from one week to the next.
knicksin60
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I think Carmelo signs an extension with the Nets.With a lineup that includes Melo, Hamilton and Billups, the Nets could end up winning the remaining games on their schedule and become a future dynasty.
la2ny
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dynasty? Idk. Playoff team is a foreseable thing though. Billups already stated he wants a buyout if traded to NJ so they'd start Farmar-Hamilton-Melo-Humphries-Lopez. Thats a first round exit team.
As for their chances to get cp3, they would have to do something about Rips' contract because he kills their flexibility.
As for their chances to get cp3, they would have to do something about Rips' contract because he kills their flexibility.
johnnyrose
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Yeah I heard that to on Tnt?
And did you hear the announcer saying why would carmelo want to go to the east when he has more of a chance to win out on the west ?!
Because The heat and chicago will always dominate the east!!! Not only did that brainless announcer discounted New york as ever being a contender or a threat in the east, But he is also denouncing The celtics who are still the team to beat in the east..
First how the heck are you going to put "The Bulls" on The same category as The celtics? or heat or orlando for that matter..That just really upset me right now..I guess he's trying to say that melo won't have a chance if He joins the knicks..
What a J**K !
StEpHoN_mArBuRy
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^ Lol don't take it so seriously. These guys are wrong all the time so I'm never made when they state their opinions cause they're just that.. opinions.
I find it funny that Denver warns NJ about leaking out info and DA leaks this info out in Denver. Wow. All these rumors depends on location and association/ Sheridan is pro NY. Wojo or Yahoo is pro Nets. DA is in Denver right now.
Only consistency is Melo wants NY, Den and NJN want each other and the CBA issue. All of which conflict against each other.
I tell this much, if NY was in New Jersey's position with record and trade stuff, ESPN TNT and all would be laughing at us. But the Nets never get ridiculed.
Only consistency is Melo wants NY, Den and NJN want each other and the CBA issue. All of which conflict against each other.
I tell this much, if NY was in New Jersey's position with record and trade stuff, ESPN TNT and all would be laughing at us. But the Nets never get ridiculed.
la2ny
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The commissioner, the owner, the agents, they?re running one big hustle on Carmelo Anthony(notes). Together, they?ve thrust him into a circumstance where the Denver Nuggets and New Jersey Nets are holding hostage basketball seasons, and everything?s playing out to turn a popular NBA star into a villain.
As NBA commissioner David Stern threatens doomsday labor-talk scenarios ? rollbacks of existing contracts, tens of millions of dollars out of the pockets of NBA stars, the nuking of the players union ? Anthony is too terrified to go into free agency. And why wouldn?t he be, when the commissioner is pushing to someday make himself the highest-paid player in the NBA.
Anthony is forced to leave a terrific basketball market largely because this has become a sport of stars who need to play for great owners and great management teams. He doesn?t want to stay with the Nuggets. Stan Kroenke has invested hundreds of millions into the Nuggets, and he fired a past executive of the year ? Mark Warkentien ? so he could have his 30-year-old son, Josh, and a former international scout, Masai Ujiri, make the trade of his franchise star.
They?ll be judged on the results, which is good, because the process has been clumsy. Mostly, it?s confirmed the reasons Anthony wants out: The Nuggets are far more farce than they are formidable.
Too bad, too. Anthony likes those fans, that city, and he hates that it had to play out this way. Only, he has no choice. ?Melo lived through the dysfunction and ethical nightmares of Bret Bearup as a force in the Nuggets? front office, and he watched Warkentien have his contract expire and let go without legitimate reason.
When Ujiri had a deal in place with New Jersey and Detroit over the weekend to finally move Anthony to the Nets, he backed away. Why? Stan Kroenke didn?t like the deal, a league source said. Never mind the three teams had all but agreed on it. For Kroenke, the Nuggets were taking back too much salary. ?Kroenke has laid down a parameter they can?t take contracts back and they need to dump as much [money] as possible,? a league source said.
Kroenke is someone who Anthony should fear: As an NFL owner, Kroenke loves the hard salary cap and is pushing hard to see it implemented in the NBA. Anthony?s playing the game the way Denver?s owner and the league?s commissioner framed it: Get yours, and get it now.
The consequences of these trade talks dragging on and on have destroyed two seasons ? the Nuggets and the Nets. They?ve insulted paying customers in Colorado and New Jersey, and left Anthony at the mercy of his most dubious decision of all: Hiring Leon Rose and William Wesley of CAA to represent him.
As happened with LeBron James?(notes) inner-circle last summer, there?s a growing tension within Anthony?s camp over the agendas of the agents. Rose and Wesley ? the famous Worldwide Wes ? have pushed for the Nuggets to make a deal with the Nets. Wesley is a close associate of Nets minority owner, Jay-Z, and everyone believes he wants a further entr?e into the lair of Russian billionaire owner Mikhail Prokhorov. Within the league, they all get it: Wes wants access to Prokhorov?s empire, wants to get the coaches he reps hired in Jersey and get full access to the franchise.
After they deliver New Orleans? Chris Paul(notes) to the Nets ? which could be impossible with Richard Hamilton?s(notes) contract clogging the salary cap ? Wesley will have what he wants: a franchise to call his own. CAA is selling itself as the powerhouse agency that?ll package you with the stars, but that?s easy in free agency. How?s it worked for Anthony and Paul? How?s CAA helped their images? How have they muscled teams into doing deals for them?
Rose is ultimately indebted to Wesley as the recruiting muscle of his agency, but has a unique affinity and loyalty to Hamilton. Hamilton is one of his longest-standing clients, and Rose wants badly to pull Hamilton away from the rebuilding Pistons and partner him with Anthony and Chauncey Billups(notes) in New Jersey. Rose ? not anyone else ? constructed the idea to send Hamilton to the Nets. How this all benefits Anthony remains a mystery.
Yes, it gets Anthony his $65 million now. It makes him the centerpiece of the 2012 move into Brooklyn and all. Yet, Anthony keeps hearing Ujiri and his agents tell him: The Knicks don?t have a deal for you. The Knicks aren?t trying that hard (which isn?t true). Anthony watched all his free-agent buddies get everything they wanted over the summer ? LeBron and Dwyane Wade(notes), Chris Bosh(notes) and Amar?e Stoudemire(notes) ? and wonders: Why do I have to settle? Why do I have to become the bad guy this season?
?There are so many different agendas at play in this deal,? one league official said. ?But there?s no question: Leon and Wes want [the Nets] ? even if it?s for different reasons.?
In every way, Anthony is a pawn in a bigger game. He?ll be blamed as the reason basketball seasons in Denver and New Jersey have collapsed under the weight of his trade talks. Only, he has no choice. This is his free agency now, and he?s trapped from above with the agendas of David Stern and Stan Kroenke, and those below with Leon Rose and Worldwide Wes. In the end, they?ll get everything they want out of this lost season.
And ?Melo, he?ll probably end up in Jersey.
CAse in point about WOJO
As NBA commissioner David Stern threatens doomsday labor-talk scenarios ? rollbacks of existing contracts, tens of millions of dollars out of the pockets of NBA stars, the nuking of the players union ? Anthony is too terrified to go into free agency. And why wouldn?t he be, when the commissioner is pushing to someday make himself the highest-paid player in the NBA.
Anthony is forced to leave a terrific basketball market largely because this has become a sport of stars who need to play for great owners and great management teams. He doesn?t want to stay with the Nuggets. Stan Kroenke has invested hundreds of millions into the Nuggets, and he fired a past executive of the year ? Mark Warkentien ? so he could have his 30-year-old son, Josh, and a former international scout, Masai Ujiri, make the trade of his franchise star.
They?ll be judged on the results, which is good, because the process has been clumsy. Mostly, it?s confirmed the reasons Anthony wants out: The Nuggets are far more farce than they are formidable.
Too bad, too. Anthony likes those fans, that city, and he hates that it had to play out this way. Only, he has no choice. ?Melo lived through the dysfunction and ethical nightmares of Bret Bearup as a force in the Nuggets? front office, and he watched Warkentien have his contract expire and let go without legitimate reason.
When Ujiri had a deal in place with New Jersey and Detroit over the weekend to finally move Anthony to the Nets, he backed away. Why? Stan Kroenke didn?t like the deal, a league source said. Never mind the three teams had all but agreed on it. For Kroenke, the Nuggets were taking back too much salary. ?Kroenke has laid down a parameter they can?t take contracts back and they need to dump as much [money] as possible,? a league source said.
Kroenke is someone who Anthony should fear: As an NFL owner, Kroenke loves the hard salary cap and is pushing hard to see it implemented in the NBA. Anthony?s playing the game the way Denver?s owner and the league?s commissioner framed it: Get yours, and get it now.
The consequences of these trade talks dragging on and on have destroyed two seasons ? the Nuggets and the Nets. They?ve insulted paying customers in Colorado and New Jersey, and left Anthony at the mercy of his most dubious decision of all: Hiring Leon Rose and William Wesley of CAA to represent him.
As happened with LeBron James?(notes) inner-circle last summer, there?s a growing tension within Anthony?s camp over the agendas of the agents. Rose and Wesley ? the famous Worldwide Wes ? have pushed for the Nuggets to make a deal with the Nets. Wesley is a close associate of Nets minority owner, Jay-Z, and everyone believes he wants a further entr?e into the lair of Russian billionaire owner Mikhail Prokhorov. Within the league, they all get it: Wes wants access to Prokhorov?s empire, wants to get the coaches he reps hired in Jersey and get full access to the franchise.
After they deliver New Orleans? Chris Paul(notes) to the Nets ? which could be impossible with Richard Hamilton?s(notes) contract clogging the salary cap ? Wesley will have what he wants: a franchise to call his own. CAA is selling itself as the powerhouse agency that?ll package you with the stars, but that?s easy in free agency. How?s it worked for Anthony and Paul? How?s CAA helped their images? How have they muscled teams into doing deals for them?
Rose is ultimately indebted to Wesley as the recruiting muscle of his agency, but has a unique affinity and loyalty to Hamilton. Hamilton is one of his longest-standing clients, and Rose wants badly to pull Hamilton away from the rebuilding Pistons and partner him with Anthony and Chauncey Billups(notes) in New Jersey. Rose ? not anyone else ? constructed the idea to send Hamilton to the Nets. How this all benefits Anthony remains a mystery.
Yes, it gets Anthony his $65 million now. It makes him the centerpiece of the 2012 move into Brooklyn and all. Yet, Anthony keeps hearing Ujiri and his agents tell him: The Knicks don?t have a deal for you. The Knicks aren?t trying that hard (which isn?t true). Anthony watched all his free-agent buddies get everything they wanted over the summer ? LeBron and Dwyane Wade(notes), Chris Bosh(notes) and Amar?e Stoudemire(notes) ? and wonders: Why do I have to settle? Why do I have to become the bad guy this season?
?There are so many different agendas at play in this deal,? one league official said. ?But there?s no question: Leon and Wes want [the Nets] ? even if it?s for different reasons.?
In every way, Anthony is a pawn in a bigger game. He?ll be blamed as the reason basketball seasons in Denver and New Jersey have collapsed under the weight of his trade talks. Only, he has no choice. This is his free agency now, and he?s trapped from above with the agendas of David Stern and Stan Kroenke, and those below with Leon Rose and Worldwide Wes. In the end, they?ll get everything they want out of this lost season.
And ?Melo, he?ll probably end up in Jersey.
CAse in point about WOJO
mafra
Legend
I think the NYK horse is starting to catch up as the race heads to the final turn. In NY's favor are two important facts:
1- Carmelo wants NY. His 1st choice. He can sign or not sign extension.
2- DEN's owner cares more about shedding salary than getting picks
Working against NY are 3 key factors:
1- Melo's agents want him in NJ for their own selfish reasons.
2- DEN's GM wants draft picks.
3- Since NY is Melo's 1st choice, there may be resentment from DEN.
I think right now it really is 50/50.
After all, say the Knicks send Randolph to Minny for a #1 pick. Send Fields to MEM for Mayo. Wouldn't Chandler or Gallo plus Mayo plus a lottery pick plus salary releif... wouldn't this be pretty darn attractive?
1- Carmelo wants NY. His 1st choice. He can sign or not sign extension.
2- DEN's owner cares more about shedding salary than getting picks
Working against NY are 3 key factors:
1- Melo's agents want him in NJ for their own selfish reasons.
2- DEN's GM wants draft picks.
3- Since NY is Melo's 1st choice, there may be resentment from DEN.
I think right now it really is 50/50.
After all, say the Knicks send Randolph to Minny for a #1 pick. Send Fields to MEM for Mayo. Wouldn't Chandler or Gallo plus Mayo plus a lottery pick plus salary releif... wouldn't this be pretty darn attractive?
WHEW!..For a second there I thought there was some truth to this..Keep those D.Aldridge reports coming...nothing he says comes true..
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NYKLiFER
Benchwarmer
Lol
Thats what I am saying...Melo has to be fucing stupid to extend with Jersey . HEY MELO COME TO NY YOU WILL GET YOUR MONEY ONE WAY OR ANOTHER AND YOU WILL BE HAPPY CAUSE WE ALL KNOW YOU WANT TO BE A KNICKS STICK TO YOURS GUNS KID YOU WONT REGRET IT!!!!!!
Thats what I am saying...Melo has to be fucing stupid to extend with Jersey . HEY MELO COME TO NY YOU WILL GET YOUR MONEY ONE WAY OR ANOTHER AND YOU WILL BE HAPPY CAUSE WE ALL KNOW YOU WANT TO BE A KNICKS STICK TO YOURS GUNS KID YOU WONT REGRET IT!!!!!!
LJ4ptplay
Starter
I agree....
NYKLiFER
Benchwarmer
wth ?
tHATS ****ING STUPID BRO! So your saying give up Randolph, Fields and Chandler or Gallo what the **** are you smoking. Again I really think we need Melo but not at that Expense **** him let him go to Jersey and rot..He already made more than 100 Mil in his career and probably has 50Mill tucked away in stocks and investments he will never need anymore money if his career ended now. so he needs to realize that money aint everything and take a page out of cliff lees book. and go where his heart tells him to go which is NEW YORK ****ING CITY .
tHATS ****ING STUPID BRO! So your saying give up Randolph, Fields and Chandler or Gallo what the **** are you smoking. Again I really think we need Melo but not at that Expense **** him let him go to Jersey and rot..He already made more than 100 Mil in his career and probably has 50Mill tucked away in stocks and investments he will never need anymore money if his career ended now. so he needs to realize that money aint everything and take a page out of cliff lees book. and go where his heart tells him to go which is NEW YORK ****ING CITY .
metrocard
Legend
NJ is hilarious. Billups and Rip? They should be rebuilding right now. They look like Isiah is running the cards behind the scene. Sad franchise.
SSj4Wingzero
All Star
Exactly.
Billups and Rip are old and Rip was a DNP-CD recently in Detroit...didn't even come off the bench...and he's going to start in NJ? LOL.
Billups is old and can still pass the ball once in a while but he's also single-handedly chucked the Nuggets out of games before.
Melo is good but...