Mike Woodson to lean on stars

NYCLakerfan

Rotation player
It's gonna be very interesting seeing STAT in the post it's probably gonna be rocky, and it's good some coach is finally demanding that he operates down their even if it is like 9 years into his career.
 

KingCharles34

All Star
Maybe Amare will finally learn how to play defense...I dont think id be looking to go to him that much though, we'll see what he does against the Pacers
 
Sorry to hear that.

While I'm cool with keeping Amar'e around, Melo is dead for me.

His reaction to D'Antoni's demission was the reaction of a selish and arrogant asshole imo.

It's obvious to me that he pulled the strings in the background that led to D'Antoni's exit, disrespecting his coach and co captain Amar'e (who's a huge D'Antoni supporter and friend of him) in the process.

I also remember the trash he talked about George Carl and Denver after the trade.

Melo is a snitch and a cancer to any team he's on.

I wish we had never traded for him, but Deron Williams or signed Amar'e AND Joe Johnson in 2010 to form a very nice 1-2 punch.

Melo is basically Kobe without the skills, talent, work ethic and success that Kobe has.
 

Weissenberg

Grid or Riot
Carmelo said all the right things but before the game while every Knick looked a bit upset he looked like a five years old kiddo right before the Christmas, smiling and joking around. :teeth:
 

carlhil2

Benchwarmer
Sorry to hear that.

While I'm cool with keeping Amar'e around, Melo is dead for me.

His reaction to D'Antoni's demission was the reaction of a selish and arrogant asshole imo.

It's obvious to me that he pulled the strings in the background that led to D'Antoni's exit, disrespecting his coach and co captain Amar'e (who's a huge D'Antoni supporter and friend of him) in the process.

I also remember the trash he talked about George Carl and Denver after the trade.
Melo is a snitch and a cancer to any team he's on.

I wish we had never traded for him, but Deron Williams or signed Amar'e AND Joe Johnson in 2010 to form a very nice 1-2 punch.

Melo is basically Kobe without the skills, talent, work ethic and success that Kobe has.
And DWill didn't get his coach fired? God, you guys are blinded by hate!:afro:
 

LeFlume

All Star
Media got rid of D-Antoni. Stephen A said a few days earlier that If Dolan wanted Phil he could have him and that he must go.
 

quiggle

Starter
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nyk_nyk

All Star
Sorry to hear that.

While I'm cool with keeping Amar'e around, Melo is dead for me.

His reaction to D'Antoni's demission was the reaction of a selish and arrogant asshole imo.

It's obvious to me that he pulled the strings in the background that led to D'Antoni's exit, disrespecting his coach and co captain Amar'e (who's a huge D'Antoni supporter and friend of him) in the process.

I also remember the trash he talked about George Carl and Denver after the trade.

Melo is a snitch and a cancer to any team he's on.

I wish we had never traded for him, but Deron Williams or signed Amar'e AND Joe Johnson in 2010 to form a very nice 1-2 punch.

Melo is basically Kobe without the skills, talent, work ethic and success that Kobe has.

Well Melo is going nowhere at this point so either get on board with this team and Woodson or check for the other NY team.
 

Scipio

Benchwarmer
`Melo didn`t get rid of Dumbphoney. The media didn`t get rid of Dumbphoney. The only person who got rid of Dumbphoney was Dumbphoney.

His terrible coaching, his ridiculous arrogance, his complete inability to draw up plays, his inability to use the talent at his disposal . . . I could go on and on and on all day about how pathetic a coach Mr. Pringles is.

Stop keep deflecting the blame onto an individual player or the media or the fact that the popcorn in the garden wasn`t warm enough or the rains didn`t come and the crops failed. FFS.

He is gone because he is a terrible coach. Look at his record since joining the Knicks. Look at him sitting on his arse every game and only getting up to clap and say let`s go let`s go.
 

Weissenberg

Grid or Riot
Who cares about what Stephen A says? It's a shame that screaming puppets like him are considered as NBA specialists.

There are numerous factors that forced D'Antoni to leave. Dolan rejected D'Antoni's application to extend his contract. Walsh left. Knicks struggled (swept in the playoffs, 18-24 record this season). Players unwilling to ajudst to D'Antoni's system and MDA unwilling to adjust the system. I think Carmelo intentionally stopped giving any effort to force MDA to leave. However, when the media turned against Anthony he had to step up and do something quickly, so he spreaded the rumor that he'll demand a trade if D'Antoni's still in charge after the season and few hours later MDA resigned after Dolan forced him to do so. But it's still MDA's fault, as an HC you can't ignore your owner's favorites.
 
The coach is suppose to lean on his stars. Only a arrogant dunce will try to win a battle without using his best weapons. Any star and real fan will be heated to see their team not being used to its best potential.

I'm not even sure D'Ant will get another gig in this league after he was expose so often in the bright NYC lights. When the team starts winning like they were built to do....the memories of pringles will fade away...along with his already depleting fanbase.
 

nuckles2k2

Superstar
Lol @ people on here.

Paying more attention to politics than the actual team.

I guess MDA's decision to force the man who is considered our most talented player...to fit into his system, and make not a single ****ing adjustment, when it wasn't working...was what...good coaching?

Then when Melo, who hasn't been coached by MDA virtually his entire career like Amar'e, shows signs of frustration, and I can reasonably assume he also spoke to Mike about it....we look at Melo like "yo, what gives? BUY IN!!"

Another media term bandied about that people pick up, and regurgitate like a bulimic getting rid of that food.

I'm sorry...when you're doing exactly what you're told...and it's not working, at what point do you say "nah, let's try something else."

As much as people don't wanna hear it, or agree with it...that's actually more of a sign of leadership as apposed to some slap dick asshole that's gonna be a yes-man with the "ok, mhhmm, yep, you want me to....yeah, ok, no problem, yep, ahhhh well if it doesn't work I'll just do it again, yea, fine, no prob."

A star player not being utilized properly in the offense for the sake of an ideology, and "system"; yet he's somehow wrong to be upset...because...I dunno...he's either not meeting some contrived standard that's been set only in the minds of a small faction of people, or because the media keeps saying "let's talk about Carmelo?" So you get people ranting about his FG% without the slightest idea of what's causing the drop in FG% other than "his shots aren't falling, and I can't believe he's not buying in"

Like it or not, you gotta build your team around your stars. When you acquire a star, there's a reason why it's called a "franchise changing move." Hell, the best coaches just switch it up on the fly to accommodate the talent they have, like Greg Popovich. Spurs went from a defensive stalwart, to an up tempo, 3-point shooting, juggernaut last year.

Rosters cultivate your team's philosophy, and identity. You might have your own beliefs, and want to run a different kind of system, but if you don't have the players for it, you have to work with what you have -- even if that means changing your MO for the time being.

Melo is one of, if not the most important component on the roster, once you have him, love it or not, you gotta work with what you have -- not despite what you have.

MDA has his MO, philosophy, and team identity set before he even has his roster. That's ass backwards.
 
Lol @ people on here.

Paying more attention to politics than the actual team.

I guess MDA's decision to force the man who is considered our most talented player...to fit into his system, and make not a single ****ing adjustment, when it wasn't working...was what...good coaching?

Then when Melo, who hasn't been coached by MDA virtually his entire career like Amar'e, shows signs of frustration, and I can reasonably assume he also spoke to Mike about it....we look at Melo like "yo, what gives? BUY IN!!"

Another media term bandied about that people pick up, and regurgitate like a bulimic getting rid of that food.

I'm sorry...when you're doing exactly what you're told...and it's not working, at what point do you say "nah, let's try something else."

As much as people don't wanna hear it, or agree with it...that's actually more of a sign of leadership as apposed to some slap dick asshole that's gonna be a yes-man with the "ok, mhhmm, yep, you want me to....yeah, ok, no problem, yep, ahhhh well if it doesn't work I'll just do it again, yea, fine, no prob."

A star player not being utilized properly in the offense for the sake of an ideology, and "system"; yet he's somehow wrong to be upset...because...I dunno...he's either not meeting some contrived standard that's been set only in the minds of a small faction of people, or because the media keeps saying "let's talk about Carmelo?" So you get people ranting about his FG% without the slightest idea of what's causing the drop in FG% other than "his shots aren't falling, and I can't believe he's not buying in"

Like it or not, you gotta build your team around your stars. When you acquire a star, there's a reason why it's called a "franchise changing move." Hell, the best coaches just switch it up on the fly to accommodate the talent they have, like Greg Popovich. Spurs went from a defensive stalwart, to an up tempo, 3-point shooting, juggernaut last year.

Rosters cultivate your team's philosophy, and identity. You might have your own beliefs, and want to run a different kind of system, but if you don't have the players for it, you have to work with what you have -- even if that means changing your MO for the time being.

Melo is one of, if not the most important component on the roster, once you have him, love it or not, you gotta work with what you have -- not despite what you have.

MDA has his MO, philosophy, and team identity set before he even has his roster. That's ass backwards.

:thumbsup: yet this might still have to be said in some other unheard of languages, lol

great post dude.
 

Kiyaman

Legend
Some KO members refuse to go to school!!!

Sorry to hear that.

While I'm cool with keeping Amar'e around, Melo is dead for me.

His reaction to D'Antoni's demission was the reaction of a selish and arrogant asshole imo.

It's obvious to me that he pulled the strings in the background that led to D'Antoni's exit, disrespecting his coach and co captain Amar'e (who's a huge D'Antoni supporter and friend of him) in the process.

I also remember the trash he talked about George Carl and Denver after the trade.

Melo is a snitch and a cancer to any team he's on.

I wish we had never traded for him, but Deron Williams or signed Amar'e AND Joe Johnson in 2010 to form a very nice 1-2 punch.

Melo is basically Kobe without the skills, talent, work ethic and success that Kobe has.


If u dont know u need to ask somebody before spitting Shutbull....
Dantoni 1-9 start, Dantoni personal DNP, Dantoni tanking two seasons,
Dantoni 6 game losing streak at the end of January force the Melo trade.
Dantoni was 99% FIRED the week Lin-Sanity had a tripple-double in the
D.League. There are a HELLUVA lot of ex-Phoenix players and ex-Knicks
players celebrating bigtime on Dantoni Firing (resigning) from the Knicks.

Dantoni coaching did not keep him a Knicks headcoach for 4 seasons....
it was the top NBA analyst, commentators, annoucers, and writers reminding
folks constanly for 3 and a half years of "Dantoni taking on Isiah Thomas
mess"....
Isiah being the most hated player/coach/GM in the history of the NBA.

The Knicks got rid of Dantoni for the same reason Denver & Phoenix got rid of Dantoni....
Melo had nothing to do with the Knicks getting rid of Dantoni....
the damn media bringing-up Melo name consistently with Dwight Howard everyday,
weeks before the trading deadline at every Knicks loss....brang Dolan into the picture....
Dolan raise the prices of tickets to a sold-out MSG with the addition of Melo.
Do the DAMN MATH....Dantoni shouldve been FIRED 3 years ago.
 

fender0577

Rotation player
Lol @ people on here.

Paying more attention to politics than the actual team.

I guess MDA's decision to force the man who is considered our most talented player...to fit into his system, and make not a single ****ing adjustment, when it wasn't working...was what...good coaching?

Then when Melo, who hasn't been coached by MDA virtually his entire career like Amar'e, shows signs of frustration, and I can reasonably assume he also spoke to Mike about it....we look at Melo like "yo, what gives? BUY IN!!"

Another media term bandied about that people pick up, and regurgitate like a bulimic getting rid of that food.

I'm sorry...when you're doing exactly what you're told...and it's not working, at what point do you say "nah, let's try something else."

As much as people don't wanna hear it, or agree with it...that's actually more of a sign of leadership as apposed to some slap dick asshole that's gonna be a yes-man with the "ok, mhhmm, yep, you want me to....yeah, ok, no problem, yep, ahhhh well if it doesn't work I'll just do it again, yea, fine, no prob."

A star player not being utilized properly in the offense for the sake of an ideology, and "system"; yet he's somehow wrong to be upset...because...I dunno...he's either not meeting some contrived standard that's been set only in the minds of a small faction of people, or because the media keeps saying "let's talk about Carmelo?" So you get people ranting about his FG% without the slightest idea of what's causing the drop in FG% other than "his shots aren't falling, and I can't believe he's not buying in"

Like it or not, you gotta build your team around your stars. When you acquire a star, there's a reason why it's called a "franchise changing move." Hell, the best coaches just switch it up on the fly to accommodate the talent they have, like Greg Popovich. Spurs went from a defensive stalwart, to an up tempo, 3-point shooting, juggernaut last year.

Rosters cultivate your team's philosophy, and identity. You might have your own beliefs, and want to run a different kind of system, but if you don't have the players for it, you have to work with what you have -- even if that means changing your MO for the time being.

Melo is one of, if not the most important component on the roster, once you have him, love it or not, you gotta work with what you have -- not despite what you have.

MDA has his MO, philosophy, and team identity set before he even has his roster. That's ass backwards.
Great post :beer:.

:thumbsup: yet this might still have to be said in some other unheard of languages, lol

great post dude.
Yes it will, sadly, lol.:peace:.
 

abcd

KnicksonLIN.com
Mike Woodson knows how to maximize what he gets out of his players. I like what I saw from Anthony and Stoudemire against the Blazers. Anthony passed the ball for once his life, and he only took 12 shots. Stoudemire finally looked tough.

That being said, Anthony and Stoudemire both look like they lost a step. Neither of these guys are Superstars anymore. They can be valuable All Stars, though, if they pass the ball and play some defense. SHAT and JELLO have it in them to pass the ball and play defense, so it's really up to them.
 
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