If you haven't noticed...
The stars run this ship now. MDA is a figurehead. These vets have taken it upon themselves to implement what they're comfortable with, o both sides.
Just sit back Mike, we got this. And just in case, for all those who want MDA to take credit for an improvement defensively, don't even try it. He could've proven his defensive accumen when he had rookies and newbies that needed coaching. He failed.
Now the students will have to show the teacher.
But. Red if this cat is open to change, truly open you gotta give him some props. If he realizes that playing defense isnt just a passing fancy, with the offense he runs we'll be a VERY HARD OUT come the playoffs.
^^Could that be a reason for the improved defense in addition to players committed to defending?Knicks had 40 mins of film and 90 mins of practice here in Miami. Spent a lot of time on, of course, defensive concepts.
All played for DEFENSIVE purposes. Yet another fallacy proven wrong...
Pshh... being reasonable will get you nowhere Trill
Players deserve the credit for every good thing.
Dantoni deserves to be mocked and blamed for every bad thing.
It's that simple right?
But with stars who actually have bb iq something everyone clammored that Gallo had, they limit mistakes on both ends, and limit the ancillary limatating affects of ssol.
But the fact remains MDA has a lot to be desired, and hopefully this is his lesson.
Don't sell me your garbage. I know basketball, and an argumentative broad when I see it.
You f*cking spin doctor, trying to give MDA credit after two maxs arrived. N*gga please. Save that sh*t.
F*cking pathetic and predictable. Gtfoh you pee-on.
Like my eyes and bb iq were lying after we saw years and years of ineptitude. Reminds me of your posts.
2nd.... The entire league know O'antoni doesnt preach defense as much as he should...show me one person is basketball that can tell us thet mike does a good job teachin defense.. just one person..
3rd...the player brought it.. billups is the real leader...greatdefensive coaches can do it without the player by implementing a system that fits the player
4th...mike cant make good adjustments on the defensive end
5th.. dont you think that because everybody talkin about our coach's lack of a defensive strategy.. is the only reason why he is bringing it up so much now.. what happen to the D in the past??
just point out one person/former player/current player that has been around O'antoni that actually gives him credit for his defense..just one
Every argument that I see here against MDA getting as much credit for yesterday has been, basically:
We got Billups, a better defensive player and leader, that is why we are playing better defense - the players.
People who were defending MDA said, before we got Billups:
We do not have the right personnel and talent to play defense right now, which explains why our defense is so bad - the players.
What is the difference between those two arguments?
Originally Posted by Knicksin60
^^Perfect example of one of your emotional outbursts...
It's peon not pee-on, just like you're a moron and not a more-on. Well, I do piss on your points so maybe that's what you meant?
Right, every coach has a defensive system but it takes players who can commit to defense in order for a team to be good defensively.
-Chauncey BilliupsMost of defense is just effort...and being willing to do it
I agree with Red in that the defensive tenacity since the trade seems to be more of a renewed effort from the players than D'Antoni.
Billups said after the game last night (I'm paraphrasing): "We know we can win games by scoring 108 pts, but to win games with 91 pts... we need to learn how to do that.
For me that was a clear statement that Billups is not going to buy into D'Antoni's offensive philosophy -- too old and too set in his ways. Chauncey may be the best thing to happen to NY in a LONG time.
We've seen three games thus far. One of those was using the "more possessions = more wins" philosophy and we lost one of those games. I will let you guess which one we lost.
With that said, I will give credit to D'Antoni for having a practice on Saturday dedicated to defense. It paid off. He should have been having practices like that a long time ago.
So it was the PLAYERS. Which is what everyone has said all along. The coaching is always always always overvalued in comparison to players, which is what I, Trillion and others have been saying for the past 3 years on this board.
Surprise - when a PLAYER comes in with defensive tenacity, skills and mindset, we play better defense because ULTIMATELY the players on the floor play the D.
Originally Posted by Knicksin60