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Lets say this whole season gets locked out... Does Dantoni get an extension or do we let him walk.... I hope it's the latter..
 
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Knicks4Life_1985

★The Floor General★
I assume they would honor the last year of his contract. The Knicks would bring a lot of bad media attention if they played Mike like that as well.
 
I assume they would honor the last year of his contract. The Knicks would bring a lot of bad media attention if they played Mike like that as well.

Yeah I'm worried that he bitches about it then we extend him for like 3 years..

I don't believe expiring contract get extended another year because of a lockout.
 

RunningJumper

Super Moderator
Think of this way...Rick Adelman, a true offensive specialist, would have gotten our team a better record every year that Mike has been here. I don't see why Mike should get an extension even for the "let's stop changing scenery" argument. That went out the window when we traded Gallo, Chandler, and Felton. They aren't on our team anymore, Nate isn't on our team anymore, Lee isn't on our team anymore, none of them. This guy is also stubborn. I don't like his coaching, and him being stubborn should be enough to get a new coach.
 

nuckles2k2

Superstar
They'd let him go and not be worried about anyone thinking they're "playing" him in any way. It's a business, they wouldn't give a **** if a handful of people were butt hurt that MDA didn't get re-upped after the lockout.

I'm pretty sure expiring deals expire after a lockout. You get a new contract if you deserve one....MDA doesn't deserve one....I mean.....KG being WIDE OPEN on an inbounds play....late in a one point game....AFTER A TIMEOUT....in the playoffs.

You mean to tell me that dude told NO ONE to check KG? **** his system...dude can't coach. Kind of like Josh McDaniels...great offensive coordinator terrible leader and coach. So did Denver toil over the decision and ponder and wonder, and give him chances? No...they said get the **** out.

Follow suit NYK.
 

Sage

Rotation player
They'd let him go and not be worried about anyone thinking they're "playing" him in any way. It's a business, they wouldn't give a **** if a handful of people were butt hurt that MDA didn't get re-upped after the lockout.

I'm pretty sure expiring deals expire after a lockout. You get a new contract if you deserve one....MDA doesn't deserve one....I mean.....KG being WIDE OPEN on an inbounds play....late in a one point game....AFTER A TIMEOUT....in the playoffs.

You mean to tell me that dude told NO ONE to check KG? **** his system...dude can't coach. Kind of like Josh McDaniels...great offensive coordinator terrible leader and coach. So did Denver toil over the decision and ponder and wonder, and give him chances? No...they said get the **** out.

Follow suit NYK.

It's what he does offensively that pisses me off more, considering he's meant to be a offensive genius.

His lack of knowledge on defence is definitely annoying, but it astounds me how incompetent he can be when the team has the ball.
 

nuckles2k2

Superstar
It's what he does offensively that pisses me off more, considering he's meant to be a offensive genius.

His lack of knowledge on defence is definitely annoying, but it astounds me how incompetent he can be when the team has the ball.

I totally agree with you, but his supporters love to spin inconsequential factoids to try to show why his offense isn't pure trash. So I didn't even wanna bring that up.

But there's only one way to look at an opposing player being checked by absolutely no one, on an inbounds play, coming out of a timeout, late in the 4th, with a one point lead. There was a lack of preparation and attention to detail in that timeout. That's the coach's job. It's also one of MDA's weakest characteristics.

A coach who doesn't excel at situational coaching and paying attention to the minor details, isn't truly a coach. It sounds like a coordinator who's out of his comfort zone.
 

KBlack25

Starter
My belief is that every contract would not run, from players to coaches. So if a year is locked out, he would still have 1 year remaining on his deal.
 

nuckles2k2

Superstar
My belief is that every contract would not run, from players to coaches. So if a year is locked out, he would still have 1 year remaining on his deal.

You're wrong. Any contracts that expire next June, expire next June. A year is lost. Unless both sides come to the agreement that this year "never took place" and everything is pushed back a calendar year.

But as it is right now...Dwight, CP3, and Deron have played their last game for their current teams if the lockout lasts a full season.
 

Oldtimer

Rotation player
D'Antoni's Contract

I agree with Nuckles, at least with respect to players. However, coaches are not "players" and thus are not, as far as I know, covered by the CBA. They are part of management.

The players' union and the league can agree on terms of a new CBA and those terms may not count a lock out year as part of a contract's length, but this would not affect the employment of a coach any more than the employment of a hot dog vendor at the Garden

I do not know the terms of D'Antoni's current contract, but if the owners choose to lock out the players, unless there is a specific contract term dealing with lock outs or otherwise requiring actual coaching of a team, I do not believe the owners are relieved of their contractual obligations to the coaches.
 

nuckles2k2

Superstar
That's right...MDA might still be getting paid. The coach's association and the player's association are mutually exclusive, right?
 
Then he should be exclusively holding secret private games...getting his team ready or in the least having them organise private meetings or something. Don't just waste a whole year seating around on your duffs doing nothing. That whupping in the playoffs should have left them with a bad taste in their mouths and the whole playoffs in general should have them salivating and foaming like some savage beasts. I see so much potential...I just fear it won't get used wisely.
 

KBlack25

Starter
You're wrong. Any contracts that expire next June, expire next June. A year is lost. Unless both sides come to the agreement that this year "never took place" and everything is pushed back a calendar year.

But as it is right now...Dwight, CP3, and Deron have played their last game for their current teams if the lockout lasts a full season.

I know for a fact that in hockey, when Alexi Yashin sat out a year his contract tolled and he owed an extra year of service...
 

nuckles2k2

Superstar
I know for a fact that in hockey, when Alexi Yashin sat out a year his contract tolled and he owed an extra year of service...

That's diff. He demanded a new contract and refused to report to the team when he didn't get one. He was suspended/sat out that season because of his refusal to report to the team. That offseason he swears he's a free agent, but since he didn't play the required number of games to accrue a full season, he wasn't eligible for free agency. He was short one season of eligibility. That's the one year you're talking about.

Kind of similar to how Vincent Jackson needed a certain number of games with the Chargers to be an unrestricted free agent this year. That's why he finally reported to the team half way thru the season.

During a lockout, contracts are still running but paychecks aren't being issued. If a calendar year goes by and there's no basketball, the contracts pick up in the next year...if there's a next year to the deal. Unless both sides agree that this loss of a year never happened, and resume contracts after the end of the 2010 season.
 

nuckles2k2

Superstar
If the lockout lasts an entire year, what happens to contracts that expire following the 2011-12 season? Do they expire anyway, or does the contract extend through 2012-13?

Coon: A contract that is scheduled to expire following the 2011-12 season should expire on June 30, 2012, whether or not the season is played. This means it's possible that 2012 free agents -- like Dwight Howard -- may have already played their last game for their current teams. Nervous teams had the opportunity to make a trade by June 30 to avoid the risk of losing these players without compensation. However, no such trade was completed, which may indicate either some faith in their ability to hang on to their potential free agents, or in the league's ability to resolve the labor dispute before the season is lost. It is also possible for the two sides to mutually agree that 2011-12 "didn't happen," so all contracts will simply be pushed back by one year. Therefore this is all subject to negotiation.

http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/celtics/post/_/id/4685423/grab-bag-could-lockout-shut-window
 

KBlack25

Starter
That's diff. He demanded a new contract and refused to report to the team when he didn't get one. He was suspended/sat out that season because of his refusal to report to the team. That offseason he swears he's a free agent, but since he didn't play the required number of games to accrue a full season, he wasn't eligible for free agency. He was short one season of eligibility. That's the one year you're talking about.

Kind of similar to how Vincent Jackson needed a certain number of games with the Chargers to be an unrestricted free agent this year. That's why he finally reported to the team half way thru the season.

During a lockout, contracts are still running but paychecks aren't being issued. If a calendar year goes by and there's no basketball, the contracts pick up in the next year...if there's a next year to the deal. Unless both sides agree that this loss of a year never happened, and resume contracts after the end of the 2010 season.

Interesting...

This seems pretty unbalanced though. The owners elected to lock the players out, which entitles them not to pay anything...

Also, not sure how this affects MDA's contract - which probably wasn't made in relation to the CBA at all, seeing as only players and not coaches or other personnel (I believe) are covered under the CBA
 
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