Sixers want Amare

Crazy⑧s

Evacuee
why the **** would we trade Melo, that makes no sense at all.

And all most of you do is complain around here. I bet you dont even like the Knicks you just wanna complain about them. Are you a member of the media, because most of what you are starting to say is just for you to get a reaction out of people.

Whoever wants to have the old team back is a ****ing idiot. I understand we're losing but the Knicks must be the worst franchise in sports if fans are pleading to get a team that was 2 games over .500 back. You're fcuking kiddin me

Why dont you and Metro go jerk each other off?

Oh dear. Look at team Melo.
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Looks like we have a new wave of homo-erotic, back scratching star gazers.

Once again, I said IF we had to trade a star, it would most likely be Melo - STAT, as you may or may not know, would be far harder to trade. Through my personal opinion, I believe that Melo is a very good player, and have not demanded that we trade him. I've said that I don't like his on-court demeanor, and that I don't like the way he demanded to come to New York. If our team [sorry, MY team ~ I'm a Knick fan, you 2 are clearly Melo fans] were winning, I would be less likely to complain. If we look at the success chart, what's been going on in NY since your deity arrived? Do I blame him entirely? No, I don't.

Learn to read, boys. And, if you can manage to withstand your impulses, think a little beyond the whole "this team is better than the pre-trade team".

But seeing that you're getting so upset, might as well stir you up a bit.

I get that it might be a little strenuous for you both in regard to being acute, but blind man love for one player [as in your cases] isn't the reason I've been a Knick fan for 20 years.

It's all about the O&B. So you'll excuse me if I have little time for fans of an individual player, as opposed to the time I give to Knick fans.

I repeat, it's about the O&B. What it's not about is infatuation and adoration from one man to another, and the forming of a band of individuals that feel so compelled to insult the detractors of their man-crush.

I'm so very sorry that I vicariously hurt your feelings by slandering the name of Carmelo Anthony.

Here are some tissues:

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As well as a link to help you better yourselves and your posting:

http://education-portal.com/article...ding_and_Adult_Literacy_Education_Online.html

Valentine's day is coming up in 2 weeks. Be sure to have a great day together. The tissues, presumably, will come in handy for that as well. 💓
 

Paul1355

All Star
make it 2 1st round picks and 2 2nd round picks..... Also as others have said this isn't even likely going to happen since Amare is a great player but who knows??? The knicks are going through transitions and maybe to Top heavy.

gotta be realistic, your not getting 4 picks plus 3 players, Amare isnt Kobe

I guess two first round picks would do
 

Wargames

Starter
gotta be realistic, your not getting 4 picks plus 3 players, Amare isnt Kobe

I guess two first round picks would do

Keep in mind that trading Amare in my mind doesn't even happen this year under any circumstance, unless the FO and future coach come to a personnel decision to go another way since it would be a team more likely to win a championship.

With that said 3 current players and 2 first (plus a throwaway 2nd rounder or two) should be the only package the Knicks even dignify with a negotiation ..... Considering the team is slumping that is the lowest Amare should go for. Once again I don't think the Knicks should even plan to move Amare right now. There is too much in flux for any sensible GM to make that move unless a new Coach & PG came in and the team was still dysfunctional. However, if it were to happen anything less than a 3 players and 2 first (plus a 2nd or two) would be highway robbery.

Also keep in mind knowing the knicks they will get bamboozled in any trade they make so idk
 

NYk_Reloaded718

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lol dude wanted an Iman/Tyreke back court. smh

Kings would never take Amare when they have Cousins.
whats wrong with that? iman/evans backcourt gives us a big backcourt and a big frontcourt i dont know about you but i take defense before scoring. Iman/tyreke backcourt would keep majority of our opponents from penetrating to the paint even if we switch on defense.

as far as cousins he's a headcase i dont see him staying in sac town long, Amare's a major upgrade over cousins they could always trade cousins for something decent

i do agree with you that this trade would never happen though i just dont think Tyreke is the answer to the kings franchise they need a pg that can get their players more involved and setup (hickson,jimmer etc) rondo would do them good. even though tyreke is a combo guard i think if he was on the knicks he would become more of a passer because he actually has help scoring wise, plus he could push the tempo and we could run like last season.

we would be the EAST version of the Thunder think about it

Westbrook = Tyreke - Both combo guards that thrive off driving to the lane and chucking

Sefolosha = Shump- Both defense specialist

Durant = Melo -Both scoring machines

Kenyon Martin = Ibaka - Both bring energy, rebound and hustle

Perkins = Chandler - Both defensive presences down low
 
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Eman

Benchwarmer
When we (hopefully) make it to the playoffs, then I will judge. But for now, Amar'e has to stay. If he's traded and things get worse, we'll be criticized for giving up too soon. This whole thing needs at least until the end of the postseason to fully play out.
 

metrocard

Legend
A big frontcourt in meaningless.
Evans and Shumpert are better at SG.
Evans and Shumpert play too similar.
Evans and Shumpert can't shoot good enough to be threats and spread the floor. They're tall yes, but you would realize their style would make our offense shorter in scoring range. Shump and Evans can't spot up and shoot. Its obvious you didn't think this out.
Evans and Shumpert over dribble and don't play off the ball. We're aleady bad at ball movement, why make it worse?
Evans can't share the ball with Anthony, their styles will class.
Evans defense is actually very lazy, especially in transition...ask Kings fans. Can defend just like Marbury, but gets lazy.
Sac are 6-14. How many points and assists does Evans average? He's 27th in the league in scoring and 27th in the league in assists. He's overrated.

Cousins is a better rebounder, bigger, superior passer and defender than Amare, younger and cheaper. This year the Kings are the worst rebounding team by DRB%. Why would they want to get WORSE? It doesn't make sense for them.

21 year old CENTER posting up 15 and 10 on a 20+ PER this season. Amare's PER has been 15. Kings would never do that trade especially now and in never the future. Cousins has his flaws, but he has alot of strengths that keep his value high.

We'll be a shit older overpaid version of 2/5 of the Thunder because

Westbrook is actually a PG, scoring chucking PG yes, but Shumpert is a Larry Hughes on steriods.

Evans is NOT a PG, and should no way be compared to Westbrook.

Only similar guys are Durant vs Anthony where Durant is superior in everyway and Ibaka vs a guy who isn't even in the NBA right now.
 
stat top 3 lol right now the top 3 PF's are kevin love, Aldridge, and blake griffin you can even throw dirk in there. Stat lost his consistency and explosiveness sure you can blame it on not having a PG, but i think it's more of him not playing the Center position like he did last year. stat is just tumbling into defenders and getting his shot blocked or turning the ball over if he's not hitting his jumper he is useless. he dont play D, rarely rebounds has no post up moves and basically complains everytime he does not get a foul called, ive seen stat get the ball in his sweet spots and still brick. im sorry thats not top 3 PF material. He was TOP 3 last season when we were the run and gun knicks but now he just looks like a lost puppy.

i do agree melo is top 3 though

why trade amare?

1. his contract is taking a crap on our cap space, id trade him just to get rid of that contract alone

2. we can trade him for some solid pieces maybe. we need a BENCH for start

3. Melo and Stat dont mesh they both thrive off mid range shots from almost the same spots on the floor unless stat magically becomes ray allen from the 3 point line i dont see why we need 2players who almost have the same game. there is no spacing on the floor. i cross my fingers everytime i see stat take a 3.

unless deron williams or steve nash are finding there way to the knicks this year theres no way we will survive this season with our roaster. Banking on baron davis to save us is a long shot especially with this fiesty schedule it'll only be a matter of time before he is reinjured. i say trade stat now while he still has value

i would do this

Kings trade: tyreke evans

Knicks trade: Stat,Td,Fields

why the kings make this trade i have no idea. but they'll get a allstar and they can develop jimmer. evans ballhogs alot that team has no discipline (not saying knicks are any better)


Your new knicks
Evans
Shump
Melo
Martin(hopefully)
Chandler

easily that starting 5 would be a top defensive team in the league. Evans penetration would be a blessing (yes he is a chucker at times but he knows how to get to the bakset and finish and is a great defender)

Bench
Baron (demote him to bench player it'll take a ease of his back and he can keep the game in control)
JR.Smith (hopefully we can sign him.. didn't he say he wonders whats its like to play on broadway)
Walker
Jorts
Jeffries

Now thats a championship Contender

Your team is booty.

Evans cant shoot and can barely distribute the ball adequately enough
Shump a rookie who has a more inconsistent shot than Evans
Melo is cool
Martin breaks down every year
Chandler cool

Any team with Jeffries on the bench cant be considered serious.

I also think everyone is undervaluing STAT in the post. He doesnt play there due to the coaches offense. I'm not saying he's Olajawon in the post, but I'm sure he could abuse your top three PF if he played there.

Saying STAT and Melo cant co-exist is like saying Clyde & Earl cant co-exist. Its crazy. Get a coach before you start making these crazy deals.
 
No

NOTHING CAN HELP THIS TEAM.

Until we fire this coach

Until then there will be

"Too many forays to the basket, unimpeded" Jeff Vangundy.

No matter what the roster is.
 

NYk_Reloaded718

★KNICKS-TAPE★
A big frontcourt in meaningless.
Evans and Shumpert are better at SG.
Evans and Shumpert play too similar.
Evans and Shumpert can't shoot good enough to be threats and spread the floor. They're tall yes, but you would realize their style would make our offense shorter in scoring range. Shump and Evans can't spot up and shoot. Its obvious you didn't think this out.
Evans and Shumpert over dribble and don't play off the ball. We're aleady bad at ball movement, why make it worse?
Evans can't share the ball with Anthony, their styles will class.
Evans defense is actually very lazy, especially in transition...ask Kings fans. Can defend just like Marbury, but gets lazy.
Sac are 6-14. How many points and assists does Evans average? He's 27th in the league in scoring and 27th in the league in assists. He's overrated.

Cousins is a better rebounder, bigger, superior passer and defender than Amare, younger and cheaper. This year the Kings are the worst rebounding team by DRB%. Why would they want to get WORSE? It doesn't make sense for them.

21 year old CENTER posting up 15 and 10 on a 20+ PER this season. Amare's PER has been 15. Kings would never do that trade especially now and in never the future. Cousins has his flaws, but he has alot of strengths that keep his value high.

We'll be a shit older overpaid version of 2/5 of the Thunder because

Westbrook is actually a PG, scoring chucking PG yes, but Shumpert is a Larry Hughes on steriods.

Evans is NOT a PG, and should no way be compared to Westbrook.

Only similar guys are Durant vs Anthony where Durant is superior in everyway and Ibaka vs a guy who isn't even in the NBA right now.

they cant shoot good enough to be scoring threats? reke is one of the best in the nba at getting to the basket

you dont exactly need him shooting.the thunders backcourt cant exactly "shoot" unless you consider westbrook and sefolosha lights out shooters.

i agree evan's cant play off the ball but shumpert has the ability to with more practice he's just a rookie and i can name you a number of rookies who came into the league that couldn't shoot and are now great shooters.

Carmelo's my fav player but im sorry any team with melo on it will have poor ball movement regardless.

Evans cant share the ball with melo? evans ever had a star player to play next to or was he always the go to option? you cant say someone cant play with someone until it actually happens. they said WADE AND LEBRON wouldn't work yet they managed to make it to the NBA finals not trying to compare reke/melo to wade/lebron just saying you cant say something wont work until you try it. Amare/melo combo is amazing? melo cant share the ball with ANYBODY, iv'e watched every single knick game the only time melo shares the ball is when were winning, games close, or he's completey off not making anything.

Evans defense is lazy? i see you didn't watch much of the kings last season. evans transition is not THE BEST but i sure did see him chase down a couple blocks last season in transition "ask kings fans"

yes cousins has his upside great post moves and passing but cousins is not a guy that will take over a 4th quarter and get your points when you need them aka he's not a GO TO GUY he's not going to put pressure on your defense or open the floor for anyone.

Westbrook is a pg? since when dudes a scoring sg playing the point guard position just like derrick rose, even though rose has somewhat better vision there both SCORERS. Westbrook cant be compared to evans? why not? wesbrook= combo pg/sg and evans = combo sg/pg there games are VERY MUCH SIMILAR if you watch basketball westbrook is just shorter...

i disagree Durant is more superior to Melo in everyway maybe someways but not everyway because Melo clearly has a post up game, better rebounder, better passer, and better ball handler. the only thing durant prob over excels in compared to melo is shooting, and transition points and the fact that he is younger and healthier. as far as closing games out i dont know who's better there both good closer's but ill give the ball to melo for a last shot over durant any day.
 

NYk_Reloaded718

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Your team is booty.

Evans cant shoot and can barely distribute the ball adequately enough
Shump a rookie who has a more inconsistent shot than Evans
Melo is cool
Martin breaks down every year
Chandler cool

Any team with Jeffries on the bench cant be considered serious.

I also think everyone is undervaluing STAT in the post. He doesnt play there due to the coaches offense. I'm not saying he's Olajawon in the post, but I'm sure he could abuse your top three PF if he played there.

Saying STAT and Melo cant co-exist is like saying Clyde & Earl cant co-exist. Its crazy. Get a coach before you start making these crazy deals.
no the team the knicks have right now is BOOTY and everyone is playing out of their positions. yes shump shot is inconsistent so was wades, derrick rose, and others when they first came into the league so what? give em time to grow. im sure our training staff can help with that just look at what david lee turned into he has a decent mid range even mozgov showed some flashes of developing a jumper before he got traded. players who aren't known for shooting dont develop jumpers over night.

stat in the post is horrible he's not a post player has no post moves and will never be a post player he's a faceup PF and will always be a Faceup PF. stat and melo cant co-exist melo does not even look for stat half the time. Its GIVE ME A ISO AND GET OUT THE WAY WITH MELO when things arent't going smoothly they BOTH try to do to much and be the superhero's. the only players that could make them work is... steve nash, cp3, jason kidd, deron williams. baron davis if he's healthy if baron davis cant make this team work then i expect dumbtoni to be fired and this team blown up.
 

metrocard

Legend
they cant shoot good enough to be scoring threats? reke is one of the best in the nba at getting to the basket

you dont exactly need him shooting.the thunders backcourt cant exactly "shoot" unless you consider westbrook and sefolosha lights out shooters.

i agree evan's cant play off the ball but shumpert has the ability to with more practice he's just a rookie and i can name you a number of rookies who came into the league that couldn't shoot and are now great shooters.

Carmelo's my fav player but im sorry any team with melo on it will have poor ball movement regardless.

Evans cant share the ball with melo? evans ever had a star player to play next to or was he always the go to option? you cant say someone cant play with someone until it actually happens. they said WADE AND LEBRON wouldn't work yet they managed to make it to the NBA finals not trying to compare reke/melo to wade/lebron just saying you cant say something wont work until you try it. Amare/melo combo is amazing? melo cant share the ball with ANYBODY, iv'e watched every single knick game the only time melo shares the ball is when were winning, games close, or he's completey off not making anything.

Evans defense is lazy? i see you didn't watch much of the kings last season. evans transition is not THE BEST but i sure did see him chase down a couple blocks last season in transition "ask kings fans"

yes cousins has his upside great post moves and passing but cousins is not a guy that will take over a 4th quarter and get your points when you need them aka he's not a GO TO GUY he's not going to put pressure on your defense or open the floor for anyone.

Westbrook is a pg? since when dudes a scoring sg playing the point guard position just like derrick rose, even though rose has somewhat better vision there both SCORERS. Westbrook cant be compared to evans? why not? wesbrook= combo pg/sg and evans = combo sg/pg there games are VERY MUCH SIMILAR if you watch basketball westbrook is just shorter...

i disagree Durant is more superior to Melo in everyway maybe someways but not everyway because Melo clearly has a post up game, better rebounder, better passer, and better ball handler. the only thing durant prob over excels in compared to melo is shooting, and transition points and the fact that he is younger and healthier. as far as closing games out i dont know who's better there both good closer's but ill give the ball to melo for a last shot over durant any day.

Melo isn't a star. Get over that already. He isn't a top 15 player. Without him, Denver is now an elite team in the West, and ranked 4th in the NBA. Stop overrated him. Evans and Melo playing together, two guys who dominate the ball and don't play off the ball. God I'm sorry but you're a dumbass to think this can actually work especially after the past decade of Knicks fail. If you agree anytime with Melo will have poor ball movement, why trade for Evans? Why not Andre Miller? Or Jose Calderon? Knicks are the worst passing team in the NBA. Don't make it worse.

I watch the Kings randomly, F. Garcia is one of my favorite players in the NBA. Evans plays weak defense. If he's blocking shots on PG's good for him, he's 6"6 220lbs. Still lazy at rotating and transition defense. We don't need that, especially since when we have Shumpert who's more similar to Evans than Westbrook is.

Cousins is only 21. What he does in the fourth is unknown, he may be great he may not be. Kings aren't trading him for an indentical but smaller and more expensive player who's soon to be 30 years old with a history of injuries. We dont know yet so leave it alone. As for Amare, he's been a big disappointment this season, especially in final minutes where he bitches out and lets Melo dominate the ball and watches as a bystander. Thats a problem.

Westbrook has played the PG position. Whether he chucks, does back flips, it doesn't matter. He's an able passer. Averages 7-8 assist a game. Score first PG, but still a PG. Too small and too much speed to play off guard. They're games aren't similar. Not all combo guards are the same. Don't be simple minded. If you can't tell the difference between Dwayne Wade and Allen Iverson, then you need to take more time assessing the NBA because its just not accurate to say Westbrook and Evans are the same. Westbrook's game is built on speed and quickness. Evan's doesn't rely on his speed for his production. More a slasher who uses body contact to get to the FT line. Even minor NBA fans know this.

Melo doesn't use up his post game, and Durant has develop an all around offensive game Melo will never be able to reach. Melo and Durant are equal rebounders and passers. Ball handling, I don't know where you been dude. I'm just going to assume you're gaga for Melo and haven't been up to date on Durant's game and progression as a player. KD is a top 5 player and MVP caliber. Melo was and never will be.
 

NYk_Reloaded718

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Melo isn't a star. Get over that already. He isn't a top 15 player. Without him, Denver is now an elite team in the West, and ranked 4th in the NBA. Stop overrated him. Evans and Melo playing together, two guys who dominate the ball and don't play off the ball. God I'm sorry but you're a dumbass to think this can actually work especially after the past decade of Knicks fail. If you agree anytime with Melo will have poor ball movement, why trade for Evans? Why not Andre Miller? Or Jose Calderon? Knicks are the worst passing team in the NBA. Don't make it worse.

I watch the Kings randomly, F. Garcia is one of my favorite players in the NBA. Evans plays weak defense. If he's blocking shots on PG's good for him, he's 6"6 220lbs. Still lazy at rotating and transition defense. We don't need that, especially since when we have Shumpert who's more similar to Evans than Westbrook is.

Cousins is only 21. What he does in the fourth is unknown, he may be great he may not be. Kings aren't trading him for an indentical but smaller and more expensive player who's soon to be 30 years old with a history of injuries. We dont know yet so leave it alone. As for Amare, he's been a big disappointment this season, especially in final minutes where he bitches out and lets Melo dominate the ball and watches as a bystander. Thats a problem.

Westbrook has played the PG position. Whether he chucks, does back flips, it doesn't matter. He's an able passer. Averages 7-8 assist a game. Score first PG, but still a PG. Too small and too much speed to play off guard. They're games aren't similar. Not all combo guards are the same. Don't be simple minded. If you can't tell the difference between Dwayne Wade and Allen Iverson, then you need to take more time assessing the NBA because its just not accurate to say Westbrook and Evans are the same. Westbrook's game is built on speed and quickness. Evan's doesn't rely on his speed for his production. More a slasher who uses body contact to get to the FT line. Even minor NBA fans know this.

Melo doesn't use up his post game, and Durant has develop an all around offensive game Melo will never be able to reach. Melo and Durant are equal rebounders and passers. Ball handling, I don't know where you been dude. I'm just going to assume you're gaga for Melo and haven't been up to date on Durant's game and progression as a player. KD is a top 5 player and MVP caliber. Melo was and never will be.

Melo isn't a star? lmao you obviously have some kind of hate against Melo, maybe you didn't like the nuggets/Knicks trade? Ok ALOT of people didn't like it, but to say melo is not a star.. your fooling your self smarten up son last time i checked BEFORE melo the Nuggets were one of the worst teams in the league he changed that franchise when they drafted him and Took them to the playoffs which they had not been to in how long? cmon son

11 game winners with 10 secs left on the clock
8 career playoff double doubles
9- 30 point games in postseason
30 ppg during a playoff series

and thats just the playoffs i can go on and on throughout his career on how dumb you sound saying he's not a star lmao im sure gallanari is the best player you've ever seen. Denver is an elite team yes but a 1st round exit at best the season doesn't matter lets judge them when the pressure is on them in the playoffs.

i dont think your getting it when you pass the ball to melo the ball will be DOMINATED regardless a passing PG wont stop him from dominating the ball, but when you at least have a combo guard like evans who attacks the rim on regular basis all the attention is not on MELO. andre miller? why so our opponent cant collapse on melo, millers not a shooter nor does he thrive at getting to the basket. Westbrook is ball dominate, Durant is ball dominate (not as much as melo but he is ball dominate sometimes)

as far as his defense. if the evans was on the knicks he's our 3rd best defender... prove me wrong. transition defense? lmao have you seen this team lately NOBODY even attempts to play transition defense except Fields and shump, walker (randomly) how is shump and evans similar...the only thing similar is the chucking evans breaks his defender down with ease, pentrates to the basket and finishes his layups. shump barely gets the ball pass half court struggles to penetrate and misses majority of his layups.

westbrook plays the pg position? ok?? so does evans he's a big pg yeah so? he's still playing that position if you say you watch kings game you would know evans since getting a new coach is averaging 7.1 assists per game over his last 8 games his assist rate is 35.75% which is rose, parker, westbrook territory, so to say he is not a capable passer is poor judgement. yes i know this is just over 8 games not a career thing but you can see he is capable of passing, like i said if you put him next to a star player and the right coaching staff thier is a chance his assits numbers will go up its hard to be a PASSER when your playing on a crap team and you've been the go to guy all your career dont you think?

what does height have to do with playing off guard thats like saying boykins is to small to play pg height does not matter about off guard play did you watch barea and kidd last year?

yes westbrook relies on his speed to get to the basket. your 100 percent right evans relies on strength westbrook relies on quickness guess what both there strong points are getting to the basket rather it be speed or strength i dont see your point in acknowledging there different because they have diff ways of getting to the basket.

if you look at my trade i never said stat for evans and cousins, thats giving up to much i said stat and td for evans i believe i said the kings can TRADE cousins for some solid pieces or they can simply keep him.

Melo doesn't use his post up game? are you sure your a knicks fan? or even watch the knicks because ive seen melo use his post game plenty times maybe you missed some games or some plays, and even if you say he doesn't use them the fact that he actually has one and durant doesn't ends this debate how did durant develop a all around offensive game when he has no post moves? last time i checked posting up would be part of your ALL AROUND OFFENSIVE GAME. Melo is putting up more assits this season i think durants putting up more rebounds. ball handling might be equal i still think melo has better handles. KD should be MVP caliber look at the thunders roaster compared to the knicks roaster look what pg he has to shake off all the pressure being put on him. Now look at game 2 celtics vs knicks take a scroll back to that bench roaster melo was surrounded by then ask yourself " could durant put up 42 pts 17 rebs in madison square garden with the all pressure and double teams surrounding him vs one of the best defensive teams in the league. better yet rethink your idea of saying melo's not a star.

look we can go on and on about who's right who's wrong (which im not about to do because we both have our opinions weather we like them or not so im done talking about this after this post you can reply say whatever i dont care do your thing this is my last post about it) im not saying evans/melo combo wouldn't work or would work even though if you can get evan's to look to pass a little more but still be agressive this has a chance to work. Even melo shown flashes of becoming a better passer anything is possible. like you said this trade would never happen alot of trades posted in these forums would not happen i just think he can bring more to the table then stat.
 
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Weissenberg

Grid or Riot
- 7 playoffs games averaging less than 35%FG,
- 5 consecutive seasons without winning more than one game in the playoffs,
- 3rd worst FG% shooter on his team during the 2008 playoffs,
- once averaged 0.06% shooting (1 of 16) in a playoff game.
 

NYk_Reloaded718

★KNICKS-TAPE★
- 7 playoffs games averaging less than 35%FG,
- 5 consecutive seasons without winning more than one game in the playoffs,
- 3rd worst FG% shooter on his team during the 2008 playoffs,
- once averaged 0.06% shooting (1 of 16) in a playoff game.

-2009 took the nuggets to the western conference finals

it amazes me how from 2007- 2009 melo was considered one the best players in this league but now he's a Knick he's considered a bum, needs to be traded.

@ Dzwonson would you take Gallanari/Stat over Melo/stat in the playoffs?
 

metrocard

Legend
Melo isn't a star. If he was, Knicks wouldn't be a lottery team. He's not that good. He's becoming a Jerry Stackhouse type player at this point. His defense is shit, and he doesn't make his teammates better. I hate Melo because he ruined the Knicks future. Gallo was our man, homegrown, tough and talented. No need for Melo. Denver is arguably the best team in the West now. If Melo was a star, Denver would of gotten worse. Melo was always surrounded by a good team in Denver. Now he's with a shit team in New York and is being exposed as a fugazi.

Evans won't pass to Melo at a consistent rate. Evans is a score first player. Doesn't work.
Evans isn't a shooter either.
Miller can score without dominating the ball and he's one of the best in the NBA in keeping the ball moving.

Do you understand we're not good at moving the ball? You're promoting the Knicks to acquire a ball dominant player to link up with Shumpert and Carmelo. No sense in that. Evans is a SG, Shump is a SG and Melo is a SF playing like a SG. Too redundant. Worse shooting trio also...no threats from longe range.
If Evans was on the Knicks, he'll be even a worse defender. D'Antoni is our coach remember?

Evans is a better fit at SG than PG.

Barea/Kidd can play together because they're both excellent at moving the ball around, can shoot from long range and are solid defenders with high IQ on offense. I saw alot of Dallas, I told people they would win the championship before the playoffs started.

Caramel faces up a lot more than post up. His post game isn't a force. Melo has a tendancy to fall in love with the jumper.

Durant > Melo.
 

Wargames

Starter
I just had a thought if the knicks were really planning on Phil Jackson coming to knicks then maybe they should trade Amare to acquire Iggy and filler/depth. Imagine in the triangle

Melo = Jordan
Iggy = pippen
Tyson = Rodman

And then maybe the knicks target Odom for the MlE to play PF. That would be an amazing lineup for the Triangle.

Starters:
Baron
Iggy
Melo
Odom
Tyson

Bench:
Fields
Jorts
Turner
Iman

That team would be a problem to defend against and could definitely score.
 

NYk_Reloaded718

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Melo isn't a star. If he was, Knicks wouldn't be a lottery team. He's not that good. He's becoming a Jerry Stackhouse type player at this point. His defense is shit, and he doesn't make his teammates better. I hate Melo because he ruined the Knicks future. Gallo was our man, homegrown, tough and talented. No need for Melo. Denver is arguably the best team in the West now. If Melo was a star, Denver would of gotten worse. Melo was always surrounded by a good team in Denver. Now he's with a shit team in New York and is being exposed as a fugazi.

Evans won't pass to Melo at a consistent rate. Evans is a score first player. Doesn't work.
Evans isn't a shooter either.
Miller can score without dominating the ball and he's one of the best in the NBA in keeping the ball moving.

Do you understand we're not good at moving the ball? You're promoting the Knicks to acquire a ball dominant player to link up with Shumpert and Carmelo. No sense in that. Evans is a SG, Shump is a SG and Melo is a SF playing like a SG. Too redundant. Worse shooting trio also...no threats from longe range.
If Evans was on the Knicks, he'll be even a worse defender. D'Antoni is our coach remember?

Evans is a better fit at SG than PG.

Barea/Kidd can play together because they're both excellent at moving the ball around, can shoot from long range and are solid defenders with high IQ on offense. I saw alot of Dallas, I told people they would win the championship before the playoffs started.

Caramel faces up a lot more than post up. His post game isn't a force. Melo has a tendancy to fall in love with the jumper.

Durant > Melo.
i dont know, yeah we suck right now but i rather see how the team performs with a legit pg melo is being asked to do to much "play point forward, score, pass more make your team mates better " it's hard to make people better when half our players have no business getting the kind of minutes there getting we just dont have good enough players to be effective. Melos was my fav player even before he was a knick so ill always support him if he wasn't a star he wouldn't be on the allstar team every year or the usa team. He's not a dwight howard or lebron james but he is considered a star in this league and not by coincidence.

i dont hate melo but i feel you homie he pretty much did ruin our future. i was hoping he'd just come through free agency because the team we had before was deeper and better then the current team we have now, but oh well we have what we have we just have to make it work someway somehow.

ok shump was prob a bad choice to put in a backcourt with evans. He's a rookie i just feel he'll develop his jumper and become more consistent eventually. He brings the type of defense you would want in the backcourt so i just threw him in there to play sg. a kyle Korver or ray allen type player would work with evans. as far as not passing to melo on consistent basis, melo dont need the ball on consistent basis he gets the ball enough as it is i fear a passive pg would give the ball to melo to much and he shoots us out the game.

miller i dont know if he could work in a dantoni system his shooting range is limited he is a good passer though and knows how to move the ball around like you said. If we get a passive pg he has to be a leader someone thats not scared to tell our star players "your not getting the ball this possession". this is why i dont know why we gave up billups. chandlers nice and all i love his hustle and rebounding but we could of survived this season with a cheaper center and made moves in this next free agency coming up with all the big names in it plus we would of have billups expiring contract. the only PG that can save this team is Nash IMO. even at his age he's still has alot left in the tank and can run the pick and roll with stat as well as get others involved.

If Baron sucks and nash doesn't sign with the knicks in FA who do you think we take a look at?

Jason kidd maybe?
 
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