Let him walk
Resign him and keep him long term
Resign him and trade him January 2013 with Amare
Last edited by kuroe702; Mar 07, 2012 at 11:27. Reason: adding image
some of us should realize the Lin screwed us Knicks fans
first, because of his play Dantoni will probably end up getting a contract extension. none of true Knicks want him here and because of Lin the opposite has happened. now say Linsanity never happened and this team sank lower and lower then the chances of Dantoni coming back are absolutely 0. no championships anytime soon
second, this Linsanity garbage cost the rise in ticket prices and screws the average fans from going to Knicks games, really the schmoo who started follinwg Lin like Tebow is in another state and dont care about going to the games.
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LOL. So if the Knicks were playing like the Miami Heat or Chicago Bulls the prices of tickets would still be less than these "Linsanity" prices?
If you want to be able to afford Knicks tickets you better hope the Knicks will keep on sucking because that's the only way the ticket prices will stay low.
I feel the need to mention that I am not ready to jump off the Lin bandwagon just yet.
Looking over the past several games, it seems to me that Lin is starting to learn how to deal with the trapping and various schemes being thrown at him. I believe in his ability to learn and adopt, though there will likely be more painful games in store.
I also want to mention that it would help if the rest of the team stepped up. Last night, Lin had a bad shooting night, but only 2 turnovers. When trapped, he did what he was supposed to and got rid of the ball without forcing things. He can do a better job of this by passing more quickly. But once those traps occur, it is up to the 4 others on the floor to swing the ball quickly and get what should be a pretty open shot. That never happened last night.
If a defense is determined to take the ball out of Lin's hands, there's not much he will be able to do other than trust the rest of the team to respond. Once they do, the trapping will decrease and Lin will have more openings to attack the basket.
Lin is definitely playing with a "different team" than before.
He was basically playing with the current 2nd unit and Chandler, which as a whole, was faster and tough on defense. Plus these guys didn't necessary looking to score, which allowed Lin to take (and looking to take) more shots.
With the currently starters, Lin has to feed Melo and Stat the ball. When these guys don't hit (uh-huh), he has to try to score, but now thru the double-teams. Plus w/the bad defense (slower) of the first unit, his TO's are pretty much sure points for the other team.
the hugest difference between the linsanity stretch and now is NOT the point guard, it is the 2-4 spots assuming chandler was there for both linsanity and the current stretch. these guys just seem to work much more efficiently with either lin or davis on the floor(novak/shump/jeffries/etc) for some reason they simply outperformed the starters and that really helped make lin a much better player, now nobody in the starting 5 is in their groove, even landry played much better during linsanity but he is also falling off.. (we need SPACING)
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Against Bos, Mia, and Dal Lin did a lot more harm than good the tone he set in all 3 of those games was so bad the starting lineup looks like trash mostly because of him.
He does not know how to handle traps and good defensive teams keying in on him.
He's def not as confident for some reason with Melo and Amare in the lineup not to mention he rarely hits them, how's two volume scorers supposed to get going if they don't get a lot of touches early he goes to Fields and TC way too much.
He looks way out control playing against these good teams on the road and their forcing him to throw these terrible passes that keep leading to mad turnovers.
In my eyes he'd be better off coming off the bench because there's less pressure, worse competition, and he played his best with basically the bench players.
I still think the kid has a bright future but he's not ready yet especially for what Knicks fans unless you guys are ok with a first round exit. As it stands right now NY will be playing either Miami or Chicago in the first round do any of you think Lin can handle those teams starting lineups defense because I really don't and I know it won't be pretty watching him wildly drive into the lane with no option to really pass or shoot and try to force something either way.
Now for Baron Davis I know he's not BD from 07 or a top 10 pg anymore or even fully healthy yet. The only thing that matters is he can handle pressure and knows how to effectively set the tone. Even he struggles scoring at least the game will be under control from the offensive end with on the court. And I bet he does a better job of feeding Melo and Amare.
Melo and Stat definitely need more touches, but they are not moving w/o the ball as well as Fields and TC. When you move and create spacing and opening, it makes it easier to the ball handler to get you the ball. Oh well, TC is taller than most, so it's easier to p-n-r with (Stat is not as easy that's why Stat usually ends up w/mid-range jump shots off the p-n-r instead of going to the basket, but when he doesn't hit...)
Lin is in a touch spot. He needs to make good decision on when to take the shot and when to pass. Maybe he should play more w/the 2nd unit, so he won't be criticized for not giving others touches.
I like the way BD is playing, but if you really compare he and Lin (the way they are defended), the other teams would not double-team BD, and they probably don't see him as a scoring threat - he gets room to operate. This is respect to Lin - they know that if they let up, he will make the good passes and score on them.
It may not be a bad idea to let BD start one game and see (without people/media making a big fuss, yeah right) since we still have time.
the problem is:
There are Melo and Stats who always want the ball and isolation. They dont move at all! there is no rotation. Lin pass the ball to them, they shoot and miss.
Earlier without Melo and Stat, there were more movements, so Lin could penetrate.
Stat and Melo are great players but they cant co-exist.
Jeffries, Stats/Melo, Chandler, Shumpert, Lin.
That would be a balanced team. Either Stat or Melo to the 2. Unit. But its difficult because both of them are super high-paid stars