this had nothing to do with Melo, Amare, or Lin being the key offensive player. this was a defenseless game. The knicks played no defense save for a few possessions in the fourth. Hell shump got no burn at all because D'antoni decided with 2/3 of his defensive "specialist" out he was going to play Sun's Basketball against a team that has been on a winning streak playing Sun's Basketball.
I would have liked to see Shump in for Baron Davis - because at least we could have swapped out the turnovers and missed shots for some solid D and someone that clicks with Lin.
Baron Davis 4-10, Carmelo 7-17
The point was how were they going to win the game in light of no defense by parts of the team.
It was still winnable.
It wasn't even defenseless per se - you just had the guys being paid millions of dollars and hundreds of thousands of $$ per game - not jumping. Their feet were glued to the ground, refusing to sprint from one side of the court to the other. Watching the BUCKS - actually JUMP.
Hell I can jump a few inches off the ground and I would have had a better chance then the guys that weren't even jumping -I saw a LOT of hustle by Lin.
Last edited by kinein; Mar 10, 2012 at 00:14.
I am convinced now that without some major changes, this team is going down in flames. What a pathetic showing again on defense. I have no idea if replacing MDA would change anything if the same group of players are still playing.
Hell, let's fire someone. Trade some players. Enough of this ****.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but i think we will rue the day we traded Mello for the players we had and obvious growing chemistry in with the team. I dont know exactly how the trade went down, but to lose Chandler, Gallinari , Felton and a few others for what we got in return is starting to look very bad...
I pray we can turn it around
Amare allowed Ilyasova to shoot 69%...
Carmelo/Fields allowed Dunleavy to shoot 62%...
Defense wins games, if you can't hold your player (who isn't even close to $$$ you make) at 50% or lower you should GTFO.
I decided to skip this one and it turned out to be great decision.Originally Posted by Dzwonsson
Giving up 119 to Bucks?
Ilyasova 25 pts Dunleavy 25 pts?
Like I said many times before Amare and Melo are cancer to this team, sure they can score a lot but they just don't play ANY defence. No effort, ZERO.
Two most overrated and overpaid "superstars" not just in NBA but in all sports.
I did some math again and checked our record of all games Carmelo played as a Knick... 26-34 (.433), since the trade he missed 14 games and our record without him is 8-6 (.570).
Last edited by Weissenberg; Mar 10, 2012 at 06:22.
Tough game to judge as it was a shooting contest. But:
1. With like 20 seconds to go and only down by I think 2, Jennings trapped near mid court line and Clyde says "Don't foul, he has no place to go". They foul and Jennings gets 2 at the line. Now down by 4.
So, why does our coach not know to not foul, yell to the players, "NO FOUL NO FOUL".
2. Stat & Melo are not defensive players, they are scorers, but they could have done more on D, I mean really.
3. Lin played well, even covered Jennings decent. Lin shows heart & hustle.
Also the Bucks announcers said something like "Harrellson could tip the ball away and Shumpert had an easy bucket".
If you are not a defensive player then you are not a player.....Defense is pure effort....MELO IS PURELY LAZY ON DEFENSE....AND STAT PLAYED SCARED....
Its such a shame because they are both so athletic all it would take is full blown effort.....its such a travesty.
And I know both will step up in the playoffs but now lets hope we make them.