2012 NBA Playoffs Discussion - The Other Series

REALHEAT

REALHEAT

Benchwarmer
miked1958 said:
A team that is not supposed to win it all often does and the teams that everyone is expecting to win falter. just in recent past. Pats 18-0 in 07, Dallas #1 seed and 13-3 in 07. GB at home that year in NFCCG... none of them won it all. Look at the top payroll yankees last several years. how many titles that have to show for that high payout? 0... Phillies last several years best team and pitching falling short. Redsox choking with all the stars. Vancouver the number 1 overall seed in the NHL knocked out in first round this year. bunch of 1 and 2 seeds and even 3s going down in nhl as a matter of fact. YOUR MIAMI HEAT LAST SEASON... lol. GB last year 15-1 and defending champs totally dominatied at home in first round for them in 11. SF at home for nfccg.. nope. Pats and BB going to lose to same team twice in SB??? yep they did. The lists go on and on. It wont be any different this year. some team with a whole lot LESS stars and one that doesnt have a HUGE playroll will get HOT get on a ROLL and eliminate the top tier teams just like always. WHO will it be..... Philly, Indiana, Denver??? OKC is kinda favored but they are pretty much home grown... they didnt go out and make a bunch of HUGE signings. SA was figured pretty much done just like CELTs. We will see. but it wont be Miami. so go bother the Indiana fans and enjoy whats left of your NBA season. The loss by you guys will STING alot more then it has stung for us. We are already over it. you guys wont be over it till the opening tip of the first game next season and even then you wont be...lol
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Peter

Benchwarmer
InGodsHands said:
the main reason Nuggets are playing game 7 is because they got rid off a certain loser who takes 30 shots per game. Now they can finally play team basketball and you can see the results.
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Fact. Do you know why hawks also play better team ball?
Now knicks have three isos and no team play.
 
K

Kiyaman

Legend
mafra said:
The DENVER NUGGETS starting five:

PG: Ty Lawson (should have been drafted by Knicks in '09 whe NY took J-Hill)
SG: Arron Afflalo (this would be Wilson Chandler)
SF: Danillo Gallinari (was drafted by NYK in '08)
PF: Kenneth Faried (could have been drafted ny NYK last year)
C: Timofey Mozgov (signed by NYK in 2010)

The Bench:

Al Harrington (played in NY 2008-2010)
Corey Brewer (MIN traded to NYK for Anthony Randolph)
Andre Miller (DEN acquired when trading Raymond Felton to POR)


It's simply amazing, isn't it? Practically an entire team filling out one roster that easily could have been playing together on another team's roster, in another city. In all my life, I don't recall such symmetry... never an instance where this has occurred before.

In the playoffs, NBA teams shorten their rotations to about 8 men. Here we have 7 guys that could have been Knicks this year. Holy cow!

Now, to be fair, if we do not pull off that trade w/ DEN (& we take a PG instead of J-Hill, & don't dump JJ to HOU)... what would the current NYK look like?

Instead of Javal McGe, NYK would feature Amar'e Stoudemire. Let's start there. STAT was on the time when trade went down. Also, remove Al Harrington from the picture.

PG: Lawson (or Jennings) is our starting PG. He's backed up by Andre Miller, whom we received in a trade with POR. We can also add... if Melo was dealt to NJ, then it's possible Deron gets dealt to NY. Put I'm doing this with the idea we did nothing at the trade deadline last year.

SG: This is the tricky part. As much as I like Kenneth Faried, and felt he should have been our target, I cannot complain about the Shumpert pick. I still opt for Shumpert, b/c of his perimeter defense & the fact we already have Amar'e & Mozgov. So, NYK start the rookie Shumpert, who is backed up by Corey Brewer & Landry Fields.

SF: Sure, NYK could have just signed Carmelo last Summer. He would be here, along with Danillo Gallinari. BUt we'll leave that out for now. So, Gallinari starts, & he's backed up by Brewer-Fields combo as well.

PF: Amar'e 'the extinguisher' Stoudemire baby. Jared Jeffries probably returns as a free agent last Summer... so he'll be the backup here.

C: Timofey Mozgov. However... If we didn't land Carmelo Anthony via trade, and if we somehow still failed to bring him aboard during the summer via free agency, then NYK would've signed Tyson Chandler. Would Chandler have signed here if no Melo? Who knows.


In other words... our current roster would be:

Lawson (Miller)
Shumpert (Fields)
Gallinari (Brewer)
Amar'e (Jefries)
Mozgov (Harrellson)

And... add to this mix either Carmelo Anthony or both Wilson & Tyson Chandler.

If we went w/ the Chandler twins:

Lawson (Miller)
W-Chandler (Shumpert, Fields)
Gallinari (Brewer)
Amar'e (Jefries)
T-Chandler (Mozgov, Harrellson)

We don't know what this team does in the East... I bet it finishes as the 4-6th seed though... We do know it'sgood enough to force a game-7 against the Lakers!
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Mafra....u have the right concept of the moves and oportunities that were there to build a solid Knicks team.....but Dum-Dum Donnie Walsh has never been good at scouting draft picks or making reasonable trades.
Amare bailed-out Donnie Walsh from being a complete idiot of anouncing a "2010 Plan" in 2008....which started a circus of gossip rumors and a load of negative media attention that surrounding Lebron James and the Cleveland organization for 2 straight years.
If Amare wouldnt have signed for the $100M the Knicks would be in the same boat as the Nets and Bobcats.
The Knicks hiring a celebrity headcoach Dantoni who showed repeatedly in his tour with the Phoenix Suns his lack of knowledge in college players, NBA players, and a clueless effort at coaching a team-defensive strategy each season by never coaching Amare to co-exist with another bigman in the lineup.

Walsh & Dantoni selecting Shumpert in the draft over the NCAA dominating rebounder/passing-skills Kenneth Faried showed ignorance at the top of the Knicks organization. Why? this was the 3rd draft that Walsh & Dantoni refuse to select a Knicks need with the first pick.
 
mafra

mafra

Legend
Kiyaman said:
Mafra....u have the right concept of the moves and oportunities that were there to build a solid Knicks team.....but Dum-Dum Donnie Walsh has never been good at scouting draft picks or making reasonable trades.
Amare bailed-out Donnie Walsh from being a complete idiot of anouncing a "2010 Plan" in 2008....which started a circus of gossip rumors and a load of negative media attention that surrounding Lebron James and the Cleveland organization for 2 straight years.
If Amare wouldnt have signed for the $100M the Knicks would be in the same boat as the Nets and Bobcats.
The Knicks hiring a celebrity headcoach Dantoni who showed repeatedly in his tour with the Phoenix Suns his lack of knowledge in college players, NBA players, and a clueless effort at coaching a team-defensive strategy each season by never coaching Amare to co-exist with another bigman in the lineup.

Walsh & Dantoni selecting Shumpert in the draft over the NCAA dominating rebounder/passing-skills Kenneth Faried showed ignorance at the top of the Knicks organization. Why? this was the 3rd draft that Walsh & Dantoni refuse to select a Knicks need with the first pick.
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Most definitely. When Walsh arrived, NYK had Starbury & Curry (both productive in 2007-2008 season), to go w/ Crawford & Randolph, plus David Lee. Walsh somehow moved all 5 of these players out of town while acquiring nothing of value. Didn't bring in 1 draft pick, not 1 young player. NOTHING.

Then, he traded a lottery pick (Hill) plus our 1st rounder this year (the 16th pick - think Austin Rivers or Fab Melo) just so we could dump Jeffries' 1 yr/4 mil? Doing this, when both MIA & NYJ proved they could dump larger contracts after the season anyway.

How foolish is that? Crippling. Carmelo will be blamed for the losing to come, but Wash broke our knees with these moves.

Heck, we could have just kept Zach Randolph... forget signing Amar'e... And be better off. We should have held on to Crawford, he would have netted us soemthing of value at the trade deadline. Could have taken Lawson over HIll, and still have the 1st rounder in upcoming draft.

Lawson, 1st rounder this season, plus some asset for Randolph & Crawford (or 1 asset and keeping either player)... this alone would make NYK a better team come Sept.
 
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Kiyaman

Legend
Gasol has been playing like a lazy BUM the last two seasons, Gasol performance has the Lakers playing the 7th game in the first round.
Gasol has to know by now the Lakers are going trade him early this offseason, probably on draft night.
Rookie Kenneth Faried has dominated Gasol throughout the series.

Boston Celtics vs Philly 76ers....games goin down to the final seconds make it a
Doc Rivers vs Doug Collins series
Doc grab the first win.
 
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InGodsHands

Benchwarmer
Great game between Celtics and Sixers. Garnett playing like a true champion he is. Rondo another triple-double. Can't wait for game 2.
 
mafra

mafra

Legend
Gallo & the MOz came up small last night huh. BAD move by Stern, & the NBA. NO WAY should MWP (Artest) be allowed back for Game-7. He should have been banned 1 more game... HAd to make him miss the first round series. If he wasn't playing last night, Lakers definitely lose.
 
RunningJumper

RunningJumper

Super Moderator
Just looked up where was Wilson Chandler, injured. I thought he signed with them and was able to play this season after China, but didn't see and/or hear about him. That could have changed the outcome of the series.
 
pat

pat

Starter
Just watching the Pacers-Heat game. Regardless of what the outcome is going to be, the first one and a half quarters showed me one thing: the only way to beat the Heat is get out there and run as fast as you can, move the ball at a similar pace and reverse the ball out of trap situation. To sum it all up, it is the opposite of what we did/are capable of doing.

And another thing: They never show replays after Wade drew a foul. I wonder why.
 
NYk_Reloaded718

NYk_Reloaded718

★KNICKS-TAPE★
That Clippers and Grizzlies game 7, was a nice one... thats how basketball should be officiated every game in the playoffs. They let them actually play instead of blowing there whistle every 5 seconds!!, very entertaining physical game to watch.
 
pat

pat

Starter
Almost_famous718 said:
That Clippers and Grizzlies game 7, was a nice one... thats how basketball should be officiated every game in the playoffs. They let them actually play instead of blowing there whistle every 5 seconds!!, very entertaining physical game to watch.
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And the Heat-Pacers game was the binary opposite. Are they kidding me? Again the Heat got bailed out by the refs.
 
petescud

petescud

Starter
The Heat are a good team. Sad the refs and the NBA don't agree as they give them calls all game to make up for their shortcomings to help them win...lol

I'm rooting the Thunder to whip their butts
 
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Cuckoo

Benchwarmer
RunningJumper said:
I want the Sixers to win the championship.
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It will be interesting series against Celtics. Garnett is beasting. His game is still dirty, more so because he is old and a lot slower. This could be the last year for the core of Celtics if they lose to Sixers.

I like Sixers team ball. Everyone in their roster can step up and score. Team ball!!!

Series tied 1-1, going back to Philly!
 
KingCharles34

KingCharles34

All Star
Aiiight Lakers u gotta beat the Thunder. We need metta world peace to elbow that homeless lookin faggit harden. Bynums about to JJ Barean this muh****in clown. 50 to 42 damn. Cmon Peace they aint no thunder. they're scattered showers
 
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Kiyaman

Legend
Cuckoo said:
It will be interesting series against Celtics. Garnett is beasting. His game is still dirty, more so because he is old and a lot slower. This could be the last year for the core of Celtics if they lose to Sixers.

I like Sixers team ball. Everyone in their roster can step up and score. Team ball!!!

Series tied 1-1, going back to Philly!
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Didnt like that late call on KG....that is the same type of screen announcer/ex-player Webber used to set for Peja. And the same type of screen I was hoping Melo & Stat wouldve set for Novak in our chaotic postseason.

Philly late game energy may pull the series
 
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Kiyaman

Legend
KingStarbury3 said:
Aiiight Lakers u gotta beat the Thunder. We need metta world peace to elbow that homeless lookin faggit harden. Bynums about to JJ Barean this muh****in clown. 50 to 42 damn. Cmon Peace they aint no thunder. they're scattered showers
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Meta played all 24 minutes of the first half.....Jordan Hill look great in a zone
 
metrocard

metrocard

Legend
Doug Collins is an underrated coach.

Philly doesn't have a that talented team to play at the level they play.

When you watch Philly, everyone is at the right position at the right time, a very well coached team.

Scoring is their problem obviously, especially when a 6"1 PG/SG is your best scoring option.

Young always been a young player who never had a break out year, well rounded player.

Same with Turner and even Holliday to a degree....Philly big men rotation consist of a down the hill Brand, an injury prone inconsistent Hawes and a rookie combo of Allen and Vujanic (misspelled)

They're not a formidable roster, so you have to give Doug Collins the respect he deserves for getting the best he can out of this team.
 
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