Last edited by finestrg; Jun 23, 2012 at 11:29.
So impressed with Kim English in this interview: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
- Compares himself, rather he respectfully says he "patterns his game" after Ray Allen/Rip/Korver offensively and Shumpert/Sefalosha defensively, making sure to praise Allen as a first ballot hall of famer and Shump for being a bigger & better athlete than he is. This is why I love this guy -- he's right on the money explaining who he is. I've been saying it for months, he does resemble Ray Allen a lot out there and it's true, he really is a pesky defender. Sounds like he's ready to make his mark on both ends of the court. Not just talking outta the side of his mouth either -- believe me, he's capable.. He'd be such a good fit here. Like a glove.
- Loved how he said that he would work out for anybody -- the Hawks in the 1st round, the Knicks at 48, San Antonio at 59 -- doesn't matter. No ego, no big head. Said whoever drafts him is "gonna get a good SG for the next 12 years." So impressive to hear that not only does he plan on making it, but that he plans on sticking around for awhile. You just don't generally hear kids talk like this. A lot of kids say similar things but it's in the way English presents it all with such conviction that makes you a believer..
- When a reporter tried to get him to say where he though he'd get drafted, all he said was that he and his agent "have a range" and that's it. Didn't bite and start talking about how high he expects to go, etc..Said he's no a premadonna...We've seen it before -- prospects hurt themselves talking like that all the time (look at Scotty Hopson coming out of Tenn. last yr -- that poor kid got crucified for saying he thought he'd go high---I still think Hopson's a good, talented player that can play in the NBA btw)...Perfect answer by English here. Every answer he gave in this interview was perfect as a matter of fact. Maturity & high character are things these teams look for in a player and this dude definitely looks to have both in spades.
- LOVED how he said "I'm 23 and a college graduate" after the reporter called him "a nice kid." You can tell he may have taken that as condescending a little bit, yet took in stride..Again, perfect answer. PERFECT.
I'm still drooling over Orlando Johnson but English is still very high on my list for the Knicks:
1. Orlando Johnson (I can't believe we never worked this kid out -- they're nuts. Unless he already got a promise much higher and refused a Knick workout invitation).
2. Kim English
3. Kevin Murphy
4. Hollis Thompson
5. Darius Johnson-Odom
6. Scott Machado
7. Mitchell Watt
8. Mike Scott
I want a 2G upgrade in the worst way--would love any of the top 5, probably in that order. I like Machado as a PG late in this draft though I feel w can go find a good one elsewhere on the cheap (Ben Hansbrough, Curtis Jerrells) and these are the 2 PFs I like late. Watt reminds me of Josh McRoberts a lot, a guy I've always liked (higher ceiling than McRoberts possibly), and Scott would be a nice backup 4 behind Amar'e that can come in and contribute right away. My buddy has been talking up big Yancy Gates recently and I told him I thought Scott's the better player. Just too many question marks with Gates (size/conditioning issues, maturity issues, underachiever so far, does he want it bad enough?, etc).
Last edited by finestrg; Jun 24, 2012 at 14:23.
Been reading a lot about Jae Crowder as the Knicks pick. I think Chad Ford has us taking him at 48 over at ESPN. Nice player -- useful, a lot of intangibles -- good motor, can score a little, good defensive player, potential stat stuffer...Like I've been saying though, if you can get the same type of player elsewhere, don't burn the pick. Use it on someone else. A guy that Crowder really reminds me of is Marqus Blakely, a 6'5" long, athletic SG/SF that went undrafted outta Vermont a couple of years ago. VERY similar to one another...See, the Knicks need to be smart about stuff like this -- go sign Blakely for peanuts if you want that type of defensive wing and then draft a legit 2 that can shoot, a PG (Machado) or a legit PF...That's how I'd go about my business here.
A little further on Crowder -- truth be told, he probably is better than Blakely. Much better shooter...Maybe he's something closer to Kawhi Leonard only a better shooter as a youtube commenter pointed out on one of his videos. I see a little Ro Balkman too with a much better offensive game..
Anyone out there have a better feel for Crowder than I do -- does he have enough skill to play some 2 or is that asking too much? He's not a pure shooter but he can shoot it -- more of a volume shooter...But with his intangibles (rebounding, toughness, strength, strong defense, surprisingly decent offensive game), if we could play him at the 2 some, he could be a huge mismatch in our favor on both ends. Any thoughts?
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Interesting stuff on Jae, I saw a few videos of him working out pre-combine on youtube. I don't know much about him, but I'm not sure about taking a bigger body and plugging him in at the 2 again. Even though he isn't the 6'8'' that Landry is, Landry's lack of lateral quickness scares me about any non-freak athletes playing the 3 in college, then moving down to the 2 in the NBA. I do like the all around nature to his game (there's a video where he makes a nice no-look dump off pass, in the paint, to a teammate cutting to the rim).
I wouldn't be surprised if he was the only one available at 48 between, him, Kim, and Orlando.
If I could package Landry in a trade to move up for Orlando, then I'd take both Orlando (or Kim) and Jae. Let him stay at the 3, where he might be a bit undersized, but his motor and the athleticism that he does have, would be an advantage for him against a good portion of the 3s in the league. But with the 2s coming out this year, and some of the guys already in the league, Jae would get those ligaments tied up in a knot if he were guarding 2s.
Guess if I was simple in the mind...everything would be fine.
What a ****ing joke...LOL. Unbelieveable -- with Scott Machado, a PG we could've gotten to help out right now; DJO, a Monta Ellis-type scorer and great athlete; Hollis Thompson a great shooter, etc. all still on the board, we take some Greek SF that'll never come here. WTF are they doing???????????????
Nevermind that we already have a ****ing Greek SF stashed away in Georgios Printezis --- where the F is this guy supposed to play?? We already have a top-5 NBA SF who's in his prime that plays 40 mins a night. Even if we could somehow sign this guy and bring him here in a year or two from now, where does he play? Absolute joke -- we need help right now. This is the type of pick you make if you're a 55-60 win championship-type ball club who's roster is set, not a team with a 3-4 yr window for it's stars to win right now...Wasted pick. So pissed off with this I could spit...Makes no sense ----- ZERO!
there's good chance we can grab some undrafted ones?
so who we got undrafted valueable to us?
scoop...oops, nevermind scoop broke his foot.
who's left for us?
i wonder if the knicks offered him... sounds a lot like grunwald's idea.
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]Machado said he spoke with a few teams late in the second round, but they wanted him tom play a year or two overseas first, which he doesn’t feel is necessary.
“It’s another stepping stone I have to get over,” he said. “It’s going to motivate me a lot.”