Well then 2 things: either we hammer out a deal behind the curtain beforehand whereby we ask a team like Golden State to draft player X for us, we sign Fields and then trade him to GS at a later time for the player they picked for us. "Sign and Trade," no? Amounts to pretty much the same thing. Why couldn't we do it like that?
There are two types of contracts. Sign and trade contracts, and regular contracts. Sign and trade contracts are cancelled if the player doesn't get traded to the team he wants within 2 days of signing the contract. Regular contracts, on the other hand, do not allow you to trade a player until you've had him for 3 months into a season after signing. There's no way to "fool" a free agent into getting sign and traded. Do you think Golden State is going to draft X player for us, and then have him ride the pine for 3 months and play in their games and practices and waste a roster spot until the middle of the season so that they can trade him for Fields? And then have to waste more time integrating Fields into their lineup and rebuild chemistry in the middle of the season with no pre-season training camp advantage? There's no way such a "hammered out deal" would work given the time delays. Both Golden State and the Knicks would lose out on a training camp and waste their roster spot for several months into the season, putting them behind other teams, in order to do something like this. Not likely.
Do we not have the ability to match any offer? I believe we do, right?
We can match any offer. But if we match an offer, then we can't trade him for a year unless he lets us. And we are forbidden from trading him to the team we matched, even if he agrees to it.
It seems like a good match -- GS obviously has some interest, Jackson would love him and he's from the area.
If they want him, they'll just try to grab him in free agency. All they have to do is offer him more than we want to match. We certainly won't match a max offer. And we might not even match a lower offer because of the apron.
then it's on to my original idea of dangling Douglas and Jerome Jordan, maybe even Jorts, along with pick 48 to see what I could get done there
Yeah, you could try to trade Golden State something that they want for their pick. But you can't use any free agents in any Sign and Trades because of the timing.
I still say that whatever cash we used in the Turiaf to Wash. part of the Chandler deal should be there once again for us this off-season, esp. on draft night...It should've reset itself and we should be able to use cash once again for draft trade purposes. I don't wanna hear about the lockout, a shortened season or whatever else..This Turiaf/Chandler trade was last season -- this is this season...New slate...It's bogus that we don't have that available to us. Plain and simple. Not having that cash available to include in a deal seriously jeopardizes any real attempt to upgrade our pick from 48...I might shoot Larry Coon an e-mail asking WTF is up with this if I get a min. I want an in-depth explanation.
A season starts with Free Agency and ends with the Draft. The draft is considered to be at the end of a season instead of the beginning because draft order is determined by the rankings at season's end. The season doesn't start with the draft, it ends with it. So the cash doesn't reset until after the draft has ended, when a new season begins with Free Agency after the Draft.
