Keep Joe Johnson
Trade him for Dwight
The only way i see a Howard getting traded to the Nets is if
1. He pulls a Carmelo
2. the Nyets get a 3rd team involved
the Magic dont really HAVE to send him to the Nyets but instead they can just as well send him to a team dumb enough to take Howard even if it's just a rental.
Howard deserves to be stuck where he doesn't want to be if you ask me, he clearly had the Option to Opt OUT but the fool opts IN and remains with the Magic knowing thats not where he really wants to be smh he can blame nobody but himself
Just because Joe Johnson is overpaid doesnt mean he is not one of the top 5 SG in the league today, now he will be in a system that is run by a true PG and we all know JJ had to always take his man off the dribble in ATL for him to score but now he can move without the ball and use pick and rolls more so i expect him to drop 22ppg this year on 47% shooting, and we are all forgetting that Deron WIlliams Is THE BEST PG on earth with a post player down low and basically Landry Fields 5.0 in gerald wallace and the clean up guy in humphries. I would not want to play this team in the playoffs.
What people are failing to realize here is this. If Deron Is indeed going to sign back with the nets, the mavericks are going to turn their attention to Nash. I believe if Dallas comes with a serious offer for Nash he signs with them in a heartbeat. Thus maybe giving Toronto incentive to offer a poison pill type contract to Lin. Now If we dont get Nash, no doubt we will match Lins offer, but be wary. If Lin does not come back like he was last season, and truly was a flash in the pan so to say(not my belief, just hypothetically speaking) we could be in for some trouble down the line. Just something to think abpout and some hypotheticals.
This is the most "full Retard" FA ever.... I mean we mock the Knicks FO and their history of dumb moves but dammit some of the moves this offseason make Isiah Thomas look like a visionary. I'm honestly scared the knicks will go hard and do something crazy just because doing something crazy is normal right now. Jrue Holiday is asking for a max contract.... Jrue frigging Holiday.
I agree on some, disagree on other points you have made.
Joe Johnson's play will not change based on his backcourt mate, like you said it will be a wash.
But my comparison to Atlanta does not mean the makeup of the teams are identical, so your head to head comparison to Atlanta is highly misleading. not to mention you mentioned nothing of Atlanta's bench (Ivan Johnson,Pachulia and Willie Green), but that honestly does not matter.
I used Atlanta because they are relevant to the topic, but you can easily compare this Nets team to Memphis, Nuggets, Dallas or Indiana....a playoff team for sure, but formidable?
You mentioned their starting five and 6th man, but then what? Plus they have two untradable players in Joe Johnson and Wallace....and depending on what they give Humphries he could be a 3rd, meaning this will be the team they move with.
You talk about how well they fit, but if any of those players with the exception of Humphries misses any time then they are dramactially different, if either Williams or Johnson misses they are a lottery team again!
Look there is a natural bias here, I am a Knicks fan, these cowards are now in our territory so I wish them nothing but the worst....but hate a side, I am not at all intimated by this team!
Orlando should just tell him to stay away from the organization, dont come around just collect your checks and move on. Unless a team offers them something they're willing to take and make them better then do it if not let him walk.
I hate the "at least get something in return"
its like if your GF is breaking up with you and says well you can **** her for the next year then work things out after while she moves on to a guy with better assets, NO you say bye bitch leave and you get ya **** together for a year, find a better chick who wants to be with you through the long run and keep it moving
Honestly I didn't know all that much about JJ before this trade talk, but after looking at his stats, some videos, and his contracts. I don't even friggin understand how the nets could be this stupid.
WTF are they thinking trading for this guy.. Giving up picks??? Atlanta should give up picks to get him OUT of there. They should be sending the nets a thank you card. And this really does kill the chances of any sort of big duo/ trio forming in Brooklyn. They will never have enough cap room for him now,
Whether they keep him or not, I like their team A LOT more than what we're working with.
The Nets and Magic are engaged in trade talks involving Dwight Howard.
Brooklyn would send a re-signed Brook Lopez, MarShon Brooks, along with their first round pick in 2013, 2015 and 2017 to the Magic. A re-signed Kris Humphries would need to also be included with a third team taking him.
The Magic are talking to other teams in addition to the Nets and nothing is imminent.
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Melo is still a **** for saying he'd be open to getting dealt to NJ (assuming he really just wanted to come and win in NYC), but goddamn Dolan for actually treating his word like gospel, and negotiating with the grace of a 7th grader at a school dance.
My votes of confidence in NJ (vs us) stem not just from the current rosters pitted against one another, but how painfully (painfully) obvious it is that we have been getting mercilessly outclassed in more ways than one by them from an organizational standpoint.
*NJ plays Dolan like a fiddle, and helps ensure we give up as much as humanly conceivable in the Melo deal
*NJ after "losing" on Melo, insta-flips for Deron Williams and gives up a bag of lint in the process
*They gamble on Gerald Wallace, and it pays off, with him re-signing
*They trade for JoeJ, and bargain way down from where initial points began
And they still have options for more potential blockbusters, and their core of top youth (Lopez, Brooks, Green) locked up.
Whether the Nets actually ARE so much better than us, if at all, almost isn't the point.
If you compare the above, with the past 3 or 4 major moves we've made with trades/deals......it's actually laughable.
But the big difference between the Nets and Indiana, eg, or the Hawks for that matter (and DEN, too) -- is that they have the legit star power you need to thrive in the NBA today, and they have it in a PG, which is so important. Look at the top teams and who their best player or major, necessary force is:
OKC -- Westbrook
Celtics -- Rondo
MIA -- Lebron
CHI -- Rose
SAN -- Parker (note the amazing, arguably career year Parker had...coincides with the "magical" dominant title run they had this season!)