I can't see even a scrub team throwing any considerable amount of money at a 34 year old player injury prone. Maybe he comes to us after waiting awhile and realizing he's not gonna get what he's looking for.
Not sure if anyone's talked about him yet but I just noticed that DJ White is available. I'd jump all over this guy right now if I'm the Knicks. He's been around for a few yrs now -- has NBA experience with 2 clubs, the Thunder & the Bobcats. Drafted 29th overall in '08 by Detroit...Still only 25 yrs old (26 this September). I like his game -- 6'9" somewhere between 230-240 lbs, looks very long, hits the glass hard, runs the court well & he's a very good shooter from mid-range. This guy stood out in every game we played against Charlotte last yr, including the game at the Garden where we lost to these guys. The Bobcats played us tough last year for the most part and this guy was a big reason why. Seemed like he hit every shot he put up against us. Very effective offensively... When he gets the minutes, he produces. Had a big senior yr at Indiana -- in 33.5 mins, 17.5 ppg, over 60% FG, 10.3 rpg and 1.6 blks. Showed nice shot-blocking ability all 4 yrs in college in fact. We shouldn't fool around here -- offer this guy a contract and guarantee him rotation minutes. See if he bites...He could be that one more big that can come in off the bench and continue to supply offense at the PF position while Amar'e sits or God forbid ever went down.. I think that's the last element this team needs to add right now -- one more reserve big that can score... He'd be perfect on a vet minimum contract. Perfect addition..We'd be damn lucky to get him for that amount -- I think he's worth more than that. Pick up the phone and let's find out..Dude's a player.
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I really like DJ White a lot. I can't believe I didn't consider him sooner...If you look at all the average to above average 'role player' type PFs around the league ---- guys like Brandon Bass, Chris Wilcox, Kris Humphries, Taj Gibson, Anderson Varejao, Samardo Samuels, Jason Maxiell, Carl Landry, David West, Jordan Hill, Mo Speights, Darrell Arthur, Udonis Haslem, Drew Gooden, Nick Collison, Glen Davis, Earl Clark, Kyle O'Quinn, Markieff Morris, JJ Hickson, Jared Jeffries, Chuck Hayes, Jason Thompson, DeJuan Blair, Amir Johnson, Paul Millsap, Trevor Booker, Craig Smith --- I think White's right there with all these guys. You can make a good case that he's at least as good as any of these players. Better than most of 'em if you ask me..
Now some of these guys make very good money which is why I'm not sure if White could be had for the vet minimum but it wouldn't stop me from asking. Maybe if we came with an honest offer of a 1-yr vet minimum contract with a promise of regular rotation mins and maybe a handshake under the table to re-up him at a better deal when the time came, he might accept those terms. Playing in meaningful games for a NY Knick team that's finally turned the corner and expected to do some nice things, at MSG--the Mecca, has got to be better than going back to the Bobcats, no? Hopefully we've reached out to this guy already or have plans to do so -- I think he'd be perfect here. Just make a solid pitch and even if it's rejected -- maintain the interest and keep up communications with White & his agent. White may be willing to hold out for now but as training camp approaches and he continues to not get the offers he might be looking for, maybe we can get him a few weeks from now at our price. I'd reach out and start having dialogue now though...Gimmie a PF like White that can contribute on both ends and on the glass and maybe 1 more young, athletic wing (I'm tellin' ya, former Arizona Wildcat Jamelle Horne would be great for us) and I'm ready to go to war with this club. Everything else seems to have fallen in place. We get this guy, we could reduce Amar'e's minutes during the season (maybe even give him blocks of games off at a time in fact) and keep him fresh for the playoffs. I think STAT's gonna have a big bounce-back season, but he has broken down the last couple of years now -- keeping him fresh should be a top priority. Adding White would allow us to accomplish this. As good as STAT is, I don't even know if we'd lose all that much having White in for Stoudemire for stretches. That's how effective I think White could be here. He's a skilled, underrated & very efficient basketball player.
DJ White's career D-League numbers btw (I believe all while with the Thunder) --- 16 games (15 starts), 36.2 mins, 19.5 ppg on 59.1% FG, 86.7% FT, 9.6 rpg, 1.4 blks. Those numbers are very solid. This guy's ready for a much bigger role in the NBA if you ask me. The numbers don't lie and he passes the eye test with flying colors. Go get 'em, Glen!
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Birdman? Anyone? I liked him in 2009 when Denver made a run to the WCF, not sure how he plays now though..
Open to the vets min, check
Defensive player, check
More tats than JR Smith, check
Former drug addict, check
Under investigation for child pornography, check!
Looks like a Knickerbocker to me.
A source close to unrestricted free agent Chris Andersen said the power forward is open to signing for the veteran's minimum. That's all the Knicks can offer, and they could use a seasoned backup for Amare Stoudemire who can score inside, rebound and block shots.
There's no word yet if Andersen, 34, has been in talks with the Knicks, who don't comment publicly on any free agents. But his former high school coach, Rob Stewart, said that Andersen would love the opportunity to play in New York. He enjoys the city and knows Carmelo Anthony well from his Denver days, and he's very close with J.R. Smith, also a former Nugget. Stewart said a few teams have already contacted Andersen, but he didn't want to say who out of respect to the power forward's agent, Steven Heumann.
On that note, it's worth noting that Andersen is a client of CAA, which also represents five Knicks: coach Mike Woodson, Anthony, Smith, his younger brother, Chris, and new acquisition Ronnie Brewer.
While the Knicks' roster stands at 15 -- the most players a team can have come opening night -- they could add Andersen right now to their books. That's because Chris Smith's contract is partially guaranteed, which means, in this case, he's only signed for training camp. In technical terms, Smith is not an NBA player yet. The Knicks will likely release him before the season starts, and then assign his rights to their D-League team, the Erie BayHawks.
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I'm kinda liking all these choices you guys are throwing out here....can't wait to see which one we'll get. Watch us get some D league dude instead
idk man, i think Andre Blotch has real skills, just needs a place to fit in and get his ass kicked, esp by the hard-ass vets we got on this team. i don't think he's an Eddy Curry, especially for a vet minimum deal, so I wouldn't count him out.
if KMart really wants money, he might as well go back to China. when you win in NYC, endorsements come your way, and there's no better place to live, eat, wine n dine, get laid, etc.
Birdman would be welcome here, for sure. another defensive intensive tattooed love child to bolster the bench. sheeeeit yeah.
Chrish Swish... smh.
Kinda agree with MeloforMayor a little on the Birdman -- multiple drug offender and now the child pornography thing...Not to mention that on the court, basketball/skill wise, he doesn't seem to be the greatest fit for what we need. He's a shot-blocker hustler type of PF where I think we'd be better suited with a PF that can score the ball. I really don't think he's the greatest fit. Think about it -- Amar'e's our only true big man scoring threat. Chandler and Camby will get their opportunities on lobs at the basket, offensive rebounds, etc. but they're both defender/rebounders..Rim protectors. Birdman brings the same type of play only he's not as good at it and not as big as those two...We've got that element covered already. Now gimmie a guy that can come in and spell Amar'e for stretches (keeping Amar'e fresh for a whole 82-game schedule should definitely be a big priority for them) and potentially replace some of his interior scoring if he ever went down. I'd like one more interior scoring option on this team to go along with Amar'e. Let's face it -- if Amar'e ever goes down for a long stretch, we're a much easier team to guard...and a much easier team to beat in a potential playoff series. In that worst case scenario I'd like to be able to substitute in another scoring big this way we maintain that interior scoring threat and overall balance. DJ White would be perfect...If he wants too much money, former North Carolina PF Deon Thompson or D-League standout Darnell Lazare would be two good cost-effective options. I just don't see Kurt Thomas as that guy anymore. Isn't he the oldest player in the league?? Does KT have enough gass in the tank for an entire 82-game schedule and then hopefully a long playoff run? I don't see it. We're already gonna be holding our breath on Camby, Kidd and some of these other older guys that we plan on relying on..
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