" Today in Knicks History"

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knicksin60

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April 30th, 2000

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"The NYK's defeat the Toronto Raptors 87-80 to sweep the first round of their series against theme 3 games to zip."

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200004300TOR.html

 
knicksin60

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May 1st, 1995

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[/h]"In game 3 of the first round of the playoffs the Knicks defeat the Cleveland Cavaliers by a score of 83-81 to take a 2-1 series lead."

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199505010CLE.html
 
knicksin60

knicksin60

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May 3rd, 2013

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"After a Celtics 4th quarter rally the Knicks hold on to defeat Boston by a score of 88-80 and eliminate them in game 6 of the first round of the playoffs."

http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400459963

 
knicksin60

knicksin60

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May 4th, 1995

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"The NY Knicks in game 4 of the first round of the playoffs defeat the Cleveland Cavaliers 93-80 and eliminate them."

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199505040CLE.html?lid=on_this_date
 
knicksin60

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May 6th, 1994

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"The NYK's surpass the NJ Nets 102-92 in game 4 of the first round to take the series 3 games to 1."

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199405060NJN.html
 
knicksin60

knicksin60

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May 7th, 1995

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"In game 1 of the ECSF the NY Knicks suffer a 107-105 heartbreaking loss to the Indiana Pacers.Their nemesis Reggie Miller scored 8 points in 8.9 seconds during the final minute of the game."

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199505070NYK.html

 
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knicksin60

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May 8th, 1994

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"The NY Knicks survive being down by 9 pts after 3 quarters to take game 1 of the ECSF against their rivals the Chicago Bulls by a score of 90-86."

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199405080NYK.html
 
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knicksin60

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May 9th, 1995

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"After their heartbreaking defeat to the Indiana Pacers in game 1, the New York Knicks bounce back to tie the series at one game a piece with a 96-77 blowout."

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199505090NYK.html





 
knicksin60

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May 10th, 1992

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"The NY Knicks even their second round series against the Chicago Bulls 2-2 by defeating them 93-86.Xavier McDaniel was the leading scorer for NY with 24 pts."

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199205100NYK.html

 
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knicksin60 said:
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"The NY Knicks even their second round series against the Chicago Bulls 2-2 by defeating them 93-86.Xavier McDaniel was the leading scorer for NY with 24 pts."

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199205100NYK.html

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Thanks for this Knicksin60, watching the highlights of this game shows you how much the game has changed. I'd say 70% of the shots were taken in the paint and most within 3 ft of the basket. Contrast to the game yesterday where Curry took 32 shots, 16 of them 3 pointers or the Cavs game where they took 45 3s. Pretty exciting stuff back then with the hard fought action to get the offensive rebounds or to get your shot off against a physical defense but I think the analytics guys are right about the approach to winning, teams today would beat the teams of yesterday with their style of play.
 
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tiger0330 said:
Thanks for this Knicksin60, watching the highlights of this game shows you how much the game has changed. I'd say 70% of the shots were taken in the paint and most within 3 ft of the basket. Contrast to the game yesterday where Curry took 32 shots, 16 of them 3 pointers or the Cavs game where they took 45 3s. Pretty exciting stuff back then with the hard fought action to get the offensive rebounds or to get your shot off against a physical defense but I think the analytics guys are right about the approach to winning, teams today would beat the teams of yesterday with their style of play.
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You’re welcome. When you examine the league today there are no players like Patrick Ewing, Charles Oakley, Xavier McDaniel or Bill Cartwright. The league is full of soft big-men and one-dimensional players who only know how to shoot 3 pointers. You don’t really need to know how to play defense or be a good rebounder in order to succeed in the NBA. Guys like Deandre Jordan and Dwight Howard would get humiliated by Hakeem Olajuwon and Dikembe Mutombo.

People like to argue that the great NBA teams of the 90's would be eaten alive by the 2015-16 Warriors but I tend to disagree. A great team with a great coach from any previous era would have adjusted to any style of play. Phil Jackson, Pat Riley and Larry Brown would have changed their game plans had the rules of the league been altered, the same way that Greg Popovich took a San Antonio Spurs team who played a sluggish style of basketball 6 to 7 years ago and made them into a championship team. I think today's Warriors would be the team who wouldn't be able to adjust to a 1990's style of basketball.

I’m not trying to take anything away from the present-day GS Warriors, but had their same exact team existed 25 years ago they’d be the equivalent of the Run TMC Warriors, a team that made a lot of noise in the regular season but didn’t get very far in the postseason. If guys like Tim Hardaway Sr., Mitch Richmond, Chris Mullin and Reggie Miller were in their primes today their teams would be winning 65 plus games and competing for a championship every year. I might be stretching it but even a 29 year old Steve Kerr would be a borderline all-star in this league. In fact I guarantee you that if you took the god awful 1990-91 Denver Nuggets, who finished 20-62 but averaged 120 pts a game, and gave them an opportunity to play in 2016 they’d more likely be a 62-20 team despite the fact that they didn’t play a lick of defense in their day.

The present-day NBA doesn’t really impress me even though some of these playoff games that have gone down to the wire have been somewhat entertaining to watch. I guess the reasons that I feel this way towards the NBA are that I have an old-school bias and have lost a lot of interest in basketball over the past dozen years.
 
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knicksin60 said:
You’re welcome. When you examine the league today there are no players like Patrick Ewing, Charles Oakley, Xavier McDaniel or Bill Cartwright. The league is full of soft big-men and one-dimensional players who only know how to shoot 3 pointers. You don’t really need to know how to play defense or be a good rebounder in order to succeed in the NBA. Guys like Deandre Jordan and Dwight Howard would get humiliated by Hakeem Olajuwon and Dikembe Mutombo.

People like to argue that the great NBA teams of the 90's would be eaten alive by the 2015-16 Warriors but I tend to disagree. A great team with a great coach from any previous era would have adjusted to any style of play. Phil Jackson, Pat Riley and Larry Brown would have changed their game plans had the rules of the league been altered, the same way that Greg Popovich took a San Antonio Spurs team who played a sluggish style of basketball 6 to 7 years ago and made them into a championship team. I think today's Warriors would be the team who wouldn't be able to adjust to a 1990's style of basketball.

I’m not trying to take anything away from the present-day GS Warriors, but had their same exact team existed 25 years ago they’d be the equivalent of the Run TMC Warriors, a team that made a lot of noise in the regular season but didn’t get very far in the postseason. If guys like Tim Hardaway Sr., Mitch Richmond, Chris Mullin and Reggie Miller were in their primes today their teams would be winning 65 plus games and competing for a championship every year. I might be stretching it but even a 29 year old Steve Kerr would be a borderline all-star in this league. In fact I guarantee you that if you took the god awful 1990-91 Denver Nuggets, who finished 20-62 but averaged 120 pts a game, and gave them an opportunity to play in 2016 they’d more likely be a 62-20 team despite the fact that they didn’t play a lick of defense in their day.

The present-day NBA doesn’t really impress me even though some of these playoff games that have gone down to the wire have been somewhat entertaining to watch. I guess the reasons that I feel this way towards the NBA are that I have an old-school bias and have lost a lot of interest in basketball over the past dozen years.
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Excellent post. Dwight and DJ are jokes and comparing them to HOFers like Hakeem and Patrick is ludicrous. Interesting your feeling about the state of today's game, I wonder if most fans feel that way about the change in the way the game is played today. I know the posters on KOL like Kiya don't like today's style of bball but it's not hurting the game, fan interest in the game is greater than ever and the NBA is rolling in money.
 
knicksin60

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May 11th, 1996

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"In Game 3 of the Eastern Conference semi-finals the NY Knicks defeat the Chicago Bulls by a score of 102-99 after losing the first two games of the series. Knicks guard John Starks scored a team high 30 pts."

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199605110NYK.html

 
knicksin60

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May 12th, 1997

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"The NYK's surpass the Miami Heat 89-76 in game 4 of the Eastern Conference Semi Finals to take a 3-1 series lead."

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199705120NYK.html




 
knicksin60

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May 13th, 1984

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"The NY Knicks suffer a heartbreaking game 7 EC Semi-Finals loss to the Boston Celtics by a score of 121-104."

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/198405130BOS.html

 
knicksin60

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May 14th, 1997

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"The NY Knicks suffer a 96-81 defeat by the Miami Heat in Game 5 of the ECSF after a brawl broke out between the two teams. The melee began after Knicks guard Charlie Ward was denied a rebound by Heat forward P.J. Brown. The 6'11" Heat forward then picked up the 6'2" Ward and body slamed him to the ground. The Knicks bench emptied resulting in game 6 suspensions of Knicks players Patrick Ewing, Allan Houston and Charlie Ward and game 7 suspensions of NY's Larry Johnson and John Starks."

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199705140MIA.html

http://www.nytimes.com/1997/05/16/sports/5-knicks-barred-for-melee-3-to-miss-game-6.html


This is perhaps the main reason why I can't stand Pat Riley. I believe that he deliberately told P.J. Brown to take down Charlie Ward so that the Heat could gain some type of momentum in the series. Even when he was coaching the Knicks Riley was always initiating things with his team's opponents.
 
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knicksin60 said:
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"The NY Knicks suffer a 96-81 defeat by the Miami Heat in Game 5 of the ECSF after a brawl broke out between the two teams. The melee began after Knicks guard Charlie Ward was denied a rebound by Heat forward P.J. Brown. The 6'11" Heat forward then picked up the 6'2" Ward and body slamed him to the ground. The Knicks bench emptied resulting in game 6 suspensions of Knicks players Patrick Ewing, Allan Houston and Charlie Ward and game 7 suspensions of NY's Larry Johnson and John Starks."

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199705140MIA.html

http://www.nytimes.com/1997/05/16/sports/5-knicks-barred-for-melee-3-to-miss-game-6.html


This is perhaps the main reason why I can't stand Pat Riley. I believe that he deliberately told P.J. Brown to take down Charlie Ward so that the Heat could gain some type of momentum in the series. Even when he was coaching the Knicks Riley was always initiating things with his team's opponents.
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I remember this game. Knicks lost that series after being up 3-1, not defending PJ Brown but he probably thought Ward was going for his knees with that low bridge box out.
 
knicksin60

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May 15th, 1994

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"The NY Knicks allow the Chicago Bulls to tie their second round series 2-2 after they lost game 4 by a score of 95-83."

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/199405150CHI.html
 
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