Emergency Game Thread: Knicks vs. Jazz

metrocard

Legend
in dedication to JR.


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deamon

Benchwarmer
Great win.
That's the Knicks from begin of the season.
Playin D, ball movement, chemistry, smile at faces.
Keep it guys, go Knicks!
 

metrocard

Legend
Prigioni and Martin needs their roles increased, possibly starter position.




Prigioni (defense, Smith gets better looks and doesnt have to create his own shot all time, Prigioni runs the pick and roll better than Felton)
Smith (Best scorer by delfault)
Shumpert (Best perimeter defender by default)
Martin (Best defender overall on this team right now)
Chandler (Our best player right now)

Felton/Kidd off the bench as back up guards to limit Smith and Prigioni being overplayed


When Melo returns, move Shumpert to SG and bring Smith off the bench, limiting Felton's/Copeland's minutes.


Novak/Copeland/Thomas/Camby as the back up frontcourt to limit Martin/Chandler to 30 minutes.
 

skisloper

Starter
Prigioni and Martin needs their roles increased, possibly starter position.




Prigioni (defense, Smith gets better looks and doesnt have to create his own shot all time, Prigioni runs the pick and roll better than Felton)
Smith (Best scorer by delfault)
Shumpert (Best perimeter defender by default)
Martin (Best defender overall on this team right now)
Chandler (Our best player right now)

Felton/Kidd off the bench as back up guards to limit Smith and Prigioni being overplayed


When Melo returns, move Shumpert to SG and bring Smith off the bench, limiting Felton's/Copeland's minutes.


Novak/Copeland/Thomas/Camby as the back up frontcourt to limit Martin/Chandler to 30 minutes.




Woodson will end up giving Prigioni more DNP and just allow JR to bring up the ball.
 

Kiyaman

Legend
Im clueless of this Knicks organization .....

Great win.
That's the Knicks from begin of the season.
Playin D, ball movement, chemistry, smile at faces.
Keep it guys, go Knicks!


I miss the game last night, but will watch it on MSG channel at 10:30 this mourning.
I did check the stats for minutes played .. and this is the first time in a very long time that coach Woody gave out the right minutes that fit our players talents and skills .....

JR's minimal skills supose to average under 30 minutes, 28 minutes should be his tops.
Felton supose to be averaging 24 minutes b/c we have 3 PG.
Tyson is a 4 to 5 foul center that any minutes over 26 minutes is soft Tyson Chandler.
Novak is a 27 minute peremeter shooter that should be averaging 10 shot attempts per game.
Shump defensive energy in the backcourt is still rookie-raw, making Shump a 24 minute player receiving 16 to 18 minutes in the 2nd half of every game. And hell-no Shump is not a starter! yet. Emergency start only.

Our bench depth should be lead by HOF coach/player Jason Kidd & Camby receiving 24 minutes each per game.
Prigioni & Copeland tandem earned 18 minutes per game in their consistent performance in our preseason games to be groomed throughout the regular season.

Why coach Woody did not coach our players to their best skills/talents/strength by minutes played this season?
Because coach Woody stayed focus on "TRYING" to get a gellin-chemistry out of one lineup -- Tyson/Melo/JR/Felton, which we seen the 4 players received 40 minutes of playingtime showing poor defensive-effort in to many games.

I dont know what the hell is going on with this Knicks team, where the headcoach never comments on the great-effort from the team-roster, but is forever making his first priority toward hyping or defending our two-EGO high-scorer who consistently show NO-DEFENSIVE-EFFORT .. Melo & Stat.

There's one thing we can count on with a missing Melo & Stat .. coach Woody is not going to allow any more benchplayers to pull a winning-streak Linsanity move to take focus off of Melo being the so-call Leader-Star of the Knicks...
 
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Kiyaman

Legend
How come none of this was mention in the GAME-THREAD ..........

I see no-one has mention how well the Knicks rotation looked in the first-half of the last 3 games without Carmelo Anthony in the lineup running the steady boring ISO-Melo offensive-play.

White & Kurt looked great on offense/defense the first 7 minutes as starters.
Novak 4-5 FG, 3-4 from 3-ball in the first-half for 11 points .. looks like the Linsanity era Novak without Melo in Novak's shooting spots.
K-Mart brang a boost of energy off the bench on offense/defense backing-up Kurt.
With no Stat playing, coah Woody finally plays Camby as Tyson's backup.
Why didnt Woody do that when Stat was playing??? check Hint
Halftime .... Knicks 55 Utah-38
The first 6 minutes of the 2nd half the Knicks built their lead up to 20 points from all 5 players playing a great TEAM-DEFENSE, before putting JR.smith into the game. The next 6 minutes with JR in the third-quarter the Knicks held onto a 19 point lead to start the 4th quarter.
Having 7 minutes remaining in the game holding onto the 19 point lead Woody puts Copeland into the game after a month of DNP. With 6 minutes left Woody take JR out of the game, annnd Copeland shows his raw talent of flaws from being in the doghouse plus adding 12 points, a block, a steal, and some fouls in 7 minutes.
:thumbsup::gony: :thumbsup:
 

RunningJumper

Super Moderator
That's how the Knicks should always play.

Boggles my mind that Woodson can give J.R. so many chances (which would be ok if he took him out when he needed to), yet gives rookies Copeland and Prigioni a way harder time, maybe only because they're rookies. Hopefully this non-sense has stopped, we need these guys.
 

Kiyaman

Legend
This is ball movement folks...


This is FFFed-up .. the players stepped-up their level of performance to 110% on both ends of the court playing with a confidence we havnt seen in the past 4 months, holding onto a 20 point lead for 3 quarters WITHOUT Melo & Stat in the lineup.
Now I understand why we only have 38 wins compared to the Denver Nuggets 42 wins .. Ball-movement vs Iso-Melo .. u pick???
 

Kiyaman

Legend
Watch the game again to see the "stat" of Melo in the line-up vs. STAT in the lineup. This team can get by withou STAT, not MELO:)

However, that's your opinion. Facts are more logical ....

We came-back from being down by 22 points to win the game with Stat .. we have yet to come-back from being down 10 points with Melo. Taking Stat out of the game during crunchtime gave OKC a 4 point lead, putting Stat back in the game OKC beat us by one point b/c JR.smith wanted to be the MAN on our last two offensive possesion holding the ball to play Iso-JR.smith.

The above prove who is the $100M WEAK-LINK on the defensive-end between Melo & Stat .. with Stat we went on a 10-0 run, with Melo we trade points...
 

erivera

Benchwarmer
This is FFFed-up .. the players stepped-up their level of performance to 110% on both ends of the court playing with a confidence we havnt seen in the past 4 months, holding onto a 20 point lead for 3 quarters WITHOUT Melo & Stat in the lineup.
Now I understand why we only have 38 wins compared to the Denver Nuggets 42 wins .. Ball-movement vs Iso-Melo .. u pick???

they've also played 4 more games. btw when was the last time the knicks had 38 wins in a season at this point? stop complaining so damn much.

also since melo left denver, when did they get out of the first round in the western conference? they haven't so they've had about as much success as the knicks the last couple of years.
 
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erivera

Benchwarmer
However, that's your opinion. Facts are more logical ....

We came-back from being down by 22 points to win the game with Stat .. we have yet to come-back from being down 10 points with Melo. Taking Stat out of the game during crunchtime gave OKC a 4 point lead, putting Stat back in the game OKC beat us by one point b/c JR.smith wanted to be the MAN on our last two offensive possesion holding the ball to play Iso-JR.smith.

The above prove who is the $100M WEAK-LINK on the defensive-end between Melo & Stat .. with Stat we went on a 10-0 run, with Melo we trade points...

they were down 12 in san antonio in the 4th in a game where melo had like 12 points. also they were down in minnesota and melo carried them to a victory there. lastly, they were down big against brooklyn and he had 45 in that game they won in brooklyn. you people on this forum seem to have selective memory. they've lost some bad games, but stop acting like this team hasn't made comebacks.
 

Kidd Karma

Benchwarmer
This is FFFed-up .. the players stepped-up their level of performance to 110% on both ends of the court playing with a confidence we havnt seen in the past 4 months, holding onto a 20 point lead for 3 quarters WITHOUT Melo & Stat in the lineup.
Now I understand why we only have 38 wins compared to the Denver Nuggets 42 wins .. Ball-movement vs Iso-Melo .. u pick???

That's the problem, makes it much worst, that Woodson will go right back to it when Melo returns. He just doesn't trust any one.
 

knicksince 93

Rotation player
However, that's your opinion. Facts are more logical ....

We came-back from being down by 22 points to win the game with Stat .. we have yet to come-back from being down 10 points with Melo. Taking Stat out of the game during crunchtime gave OKC a 4 point lead, putting Stat back in the game OKC beat us by one point b/c JR.smith wanted to be the MAN on our last two offensive possesion holding the ball to play Iso-JR.smith.

The above prove who is the $100M WEAK-LINK on the defensive-end between Melo & Stat .. with Stat we went on a 10-0 run, with Melo we trade points...

This is the silliest logic ever, melo is the weak link on defense and not stat. Do u really think jr was told to iso by his coach or he wanted to be the man and did he thing. That's just dumb

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