Game Thread: New York Knicks @ San Antonio Spurs (2014/12/10)

Thanks for the great game thread. I have nothing to say about this team at this point. Let's just win a stupid game. Let's go Knicks!

usually we look better against the elite teams, so maybe we have a chance... will somebody please wake me from this night-mare...

Any chance of getting that guy whose picture is along side of Carmelo?

tiger0330 said:

Any chance of getting that guy whose picture is along side of Carmelo?

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u mean the guy making 3m this year n 4.2m next year???

Melo out for tonight. I don't wonder if it isn't the beginning of a mini-extended absence. He has been banged up and there is no harm to him getting as much time off as he needs. This is not a season to run assets into the ground.

Well, as it turns out, Melo and JR Smith are not playing for us, but the Spurs are not playing Duncan, Ginobili, Parker, or Kawhi Leonard. This game could not be less a representation of how these two teams would matchup and we obviously have a very good chance to win (much to the woe of the pro-tanking contingent)

Wow like a preseason game...imagine if u paid for tickets to see both teams second units...I was thinking about grabbing tix to next Thurdays Bulls Knicks game but I guess I should wait and see...


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The Knicks are sitting Melo & JR .... Will that force rookie coach Fisher to start coaching a first-unit triangle lineup (Dally, Amare, Wear, Shump, Calderon as starters n finishers? Having a second-unit triangle lineup of Cole, J.Smith, Acy, THJ, and Prigioni.
The only way to teach/learn triangle are using the same 5 players in a "unit" to make mistakes, and each of the 5 players correct each other mistakes. That is not the way Fisher been coaching the past 23 games.

Fisher has been coaching just like our past 3 head-coaches (Isiah, Dantoni, Woodard) using a non-running 3 guard half-court offense where 90% of the shots are outside jumpers, and the team defense, and rebounds are pitiful.

This game feels very similar to most of our other games during our prolonged losing streak. We're playing just well enough to hang around, but in no way do we look like we're planning on surging ahead to win the game.

Stat and then Prigioni get back to back techs over the course of a minute. Can't believe this team doesn't have it in them to fight for a win, just need to see proof of it.

The 3 guard offense has been the Knicks losing method since Marbury, Francis, Crawford lineup.
Fisher coaching is KILLING ME!!!

I don't buy the reported player hate for the triangle. Our offense continues to overachieve given our limited offensive assets. It's our defense and rebounding that are extremely suspect at this point. Once again we manage to hang around in the first half and keep the game competitive. Since that hasn't translated to a win in like a month, I'm not going to get too excited about the 2nd half. Let's go Knicks!

htr10 said:

I don't buy the reported player hate for the triangle. Our offense continues to overachieve given our limited offensive assets. It's our defense and rebounding that are extremely suspect at this point. Once again we manage to hang around in the first half and keep the game competitive. Since that hasn't translated to a win in like a month, I'm not going to get too excited about the 2nd half. Let's go Knicks!

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Its our small-ball lineups that dont have a clue how to run the ball .. 3 guard lineup dont give us rebounds or defense, plus Acy is not a big he dont give us defense or rebounding. No rebounds give opponents 2nd and 3rd chance shots.

htr10 said:

Well, as it turns out, Melo and JR Smith are not playing for us, but the Spurs are not playing Duncan, Ginobili, Parker, or Kawhi Leonard. This game could not be less a representation of how these two teams would matchup and we obviously have a very good chance to win (much to the woe of the pro-tanking contingent)

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It's not that some of us are pro-tanking, it's more that we don't see losing as a bad thing. Knicks have been bad since trading Ewing. We're talking 14 years now. I had high expectations for this season, then Calderon got hurt, Bargnani quit, JR and Shump let everyone down by failing to pick up the slack, and Melo was unable to shoulder the burden. Instead of a good start, or a .500 run to hold the line, the team flopped to 4-10.

Reality hit home. Shump wasnt going to evolve into a mini Clyde... JR wasnt going to blossom... And that meant this team had little hope for success this season, as constructed.

This team has sold "next year" as its brand to its fans for years now. As much as I root for them to win every game... I am astute enough to realize the best thing for this team and its future. So, losing does 't bother me bc this year is already lost... I saw the film last year when TC got hurt.

i am almost shocked that the Knicks finally did something right.... And dropped ten in a row. Plummeting from 4-10 to 4-20 is a dream for us who want the top pick. I still expect the knicks to go on a 12-5 run at some point and squash that dream.... But i am tired living and dying with each and every loss.

I would never root for them to lose a game.... But after each loss, i see the light at end of tunnel and this means there is no sting this season.

let's see what roster we have next September... Then prepare for better things.

u would think Fisher would have played a frontline of Dally/Stat/Wear in a lineup, then a 2nd unit frontline of Cole/J.Smith/Acy.

NO! Dum Fisher want to play lineups of Calderon/Shump/THJ, and then lineup Prigioni/Larkin/THJ
There's no Rebounds and no defense from these 3 guard lineups
Tank Tank Tank Tank

Kiyaman said:

u would think Fisher would have played a frontline of Dally/Stat/Wear in a lineup, then a 2nd unit frontline of Cole/J.Smith/Acy.

NO! Dum Fisher want to play lineups of Calderon/Shump/THJ, and then lineup Prigioni/Larkin/THJ
There's no Rebounds and no defense from these 3 guard lineups
Tank Tank Tank Tank

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Shump has 7 points and 5 turnovers and Marco Bellini is lighting it up. Aside from not defending or scoring or dribbling or passing... Shump looks good out there.

Not much to take away from tonight's game other than the absence of Melo and JR Smith definitely doesn't help us. Lottery ball running wild at 4 - 20. Man, we stink. I feel sorry for our guys more than I have any animosity for them. This is the kind of team that no one wants to have on their resume.