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    Default Why the Knicks will draft Emmanuel Mudiay: 10 reasons

    With the 4th pick the Knicks pick!....

    Emmanuel Mudiay!... but why?

    10 reasons why Knicks will draft Mudiay:

    1) Mudiay has been a top 5 prospect since Highschool- Coming out of HS Mudiay was rated above Towns and many others and he stood out in the Mcdonalds all star game. He has a history of being a big name before becoming the mysterious China man. Some say if he stayed in college he would be the consensus #1 pick.

    2) He has amazing size for a PG- being a 6'5 PG makes every Knick fan drool. Most PG's will have a mis match facing Mudiay not only for his height but matched athleticism.

    3) He uses his body well- Mudiay is strong, athletic and knows it. He not only knows it but uses which many players fail to do (Shumpert is a great example of a player that never used his athleticism to his advantage). He drives to basket and draws fouls which is ideal in a point guards league with refs calling every little foul (James Harden).

    4) Floor general- name me the last pure floor general the Knicks had at PG? (Marbury maybe?)- Knicks are starving for a future pure PG to develop. And Melo needs a floor general to excel. The last one he had was Chauncey Billups that helped him reach the Western Conference Finals.

    5) He is only compared to great PG's by scouts- names like John Wall, Russell Westbrook etc are compared to Mudiay and thats nothing to sniff at. If he is half of John Wall/ westbrook he is a steal pick at #4.

    6) International experience- depending on your view of Chinese competition, Mudiay already has more experience than every player in the draft outside of Porzingis and Hezjona. The international scene is bringing in new talent that is rivaling college players.

    7) Oozing potential- Out of all the players in the draft he might have the highest upside out of everyone. Russell doesn't have his athleticism and Mudiay might have just as good court vision.

    8) He can hit a 3 point shot, therefore his shot has potential- Mudiays one weakness is his inconsistent shooting. Think of John Wall here. Wall came in the league with no outside shot and once he developed it he became a different player. This year Wall was nearly unstoppable and Mudiay can become that if his game is anything like John Wall.

    9) He wants to be a Knick which means he can handle NY- Only certain players can excel in NY. Many shrivel and become better in smaller markets (Smith, Shump, Ariza, etc.) Mudiay said it would be a blessing to be in NY and referred to it as a basketball city- the Mecca. He also admitted the fans knowledge of the game and loving to play in NY when he was in Highschool and AAU.

    10) Its a point guards league- as mentioned previously the PG has precedence over all positions. This conflicts with Jackson's triangle offense that favors a passing big man to control the high post. However, Jackson and Fisher know they have to change up the triangle a little bit since this is a different age. Mudiay excels in fast break and pick and rolls, therefore he is the dynamic playmaking PG that every team wants. He will get the foul calls and be able to excel in the NBA.

    Note: the Pre draft workouts will determine everything here. If he impresses, than I think he is a lock at 4 over Winslow.

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    He sounds grounded and wise in the interviews I've read. WCS is aloof, Russell ****y... I think is BBALL IQ, and defense, and rebounding, will be elite. Is he a fit in the triangle? Will PHIL poo-poo the PG position? Unless we sign B-Knight or trade for Jennings... who will play PG? I do not want Rondo... Anybody else?

    KNICKS guards have stunk since the '70s... About time we draft a stud guard. This is a highly-touted prospect... best PG in the draft. Unless I fall in love with Pirzingis... MUDIAY ALL THE WAY BABY OR RUE THE DAY...

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    Since you guys are talking up Mudiay, say hypothetically Minny, Lakers, or Philly go way off script (something crazy like Prozingas) and the Knicks have available to them Mudiay/Okafor or Mudiay/Russell, would you prefer Mudiay?

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    Quote Originally Posted by htr10 View Post
    Since you guys are talking up Mudiay, say hypothetically Minny, Lakers, or Philly go way off script (something crazy like Prozingas) and the Knicks have available to them Mudiay/Okafor or Mudiay/Russell, would you prefer Mudiay?
    I would take Okafor. TOUGH call on EM or DR. Probably EM b/c of his defense. BUT DR is the better shooter.

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    Chad Ford, on NBA radio, says Purzingis is best international player since Dirk. He's currently playing in Spain... Avg 12 ppg now in world's 2nd best pro league... A freak athlete. 19. Can shoot NBA 3. Said if he played College in USA this year... Debate would be if he should be top pick in this draft. Says he'll be best player from draft 5 yrs from now.

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    well, Mafra, this thread and your post on the Justise Winslow thread definitely has me higher on Mudiay. but these are the best type of problems to have, now I'd be happy getting Mudiay, Russell OR Winslow. just not that keen on the Latvian kid, but who knows, maybe the next thread will get me excited for him as well?

    these next 5 weeks we'll be seeing and hearing a lot more about EM's game, i have a feeling his stock is going to rise... #2? Lakers? wow. what a dilemma that would be for Philly seeing how they're stacked with big men.

    i have a feeling there will be wheeling and dealing in this draft and shortly thereafter. it's one big f*cking questionmark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mafra View Post
    I would take Okafor. TOUGH call on EM or DR. Probably EM b/c of his defense. BUT DR is the better shooter.
    I'd take Okafor too

    My top 10 prospects in particular order

    1. Okafor
    2. Mudiay
    3. Hezonja
    4. Towns
    5. Kaminsky
    6. Russell
    7. Winslow
    8. Turner
    9. Porzingis
    10. Johnson

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    Quote Originally Posted by Broadway View Post
    I'd take Okafor too

    My top 10 prospects in particular order

    1. Okafor
    2. Mudiay
    3. Hezonja
    4. Towns
    5. Kaminsky
    6. Russell
    7. Winslow
    8. Turner
    9. Porzingis
    10. Johnson
    Why are you so high on Hezonja? Is that your list specifically for the Knicks or just in general?

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    who? future bust if i haven't heard of him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by htr10 View Post
    Why are you so high on Hezonja? Is that your list specifically for the Knicks or just in general?

    What's not to like in Hezonja?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Broadway View Post
    What's not to like in Hezonja?
    Top 10 pick sure, but rank him ahead of Towns, Russell, and Winslow?

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    Quote Originally Posted by htr10 View Post
    Since you guys are talking up Mudiay, say hypothetically Minny, Lakers, or Philly go way off script (something crazy like Prozingas) and the Knicks have available to them Mudiay/Okafor or Mudiay/Russell, would you prefer Mudiay?
    If Russell or Okafor are available I would take them over Mudiay. If both are available I would take Okafor simply for need. However, I think Russell has the most upside
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    Quote Originally Posted by mafra View Post
    Chad Ford, on NBA radio, says Purzingis is best international player since Dirk. He's currently playing in Spain... Avg 12 ppg now in world's 2nd best pro league... A freak athlete. 19. Can shoot NBA 3. Said if he played College in USA this year... Debate would be if he should be top pick in this draft. Says he'll be best player from draft 5 yrs from now.
    He is either a Nikola Mitotic who is instant offense or a Danillo Gallinari that took years to come into his own...not sure if we can afford that risk at #4....if we trade down than Prozingis or Hezjona are serious players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Broadway View Post
    I'd take Okafor too

    My top 10 prospects in particular order

    1. Okafor
    2. Mudiay
    3. Hezonja
    4. Towns
    5. Kaminsky
    6. Russell
    7. Winslow
    8. Turner
    9. Porzingis
    10. Johnson
    interesting list....Russell so low, Hezonja so high...towns at 4??

    Kaminsky at 5?

    I do question this list for multiple reasons.

    I feel like you're list is based on performances you have witnessed. Is Okafor #1 because of his heroics in the championship game? Because Towns dominated in the tournament more than Okafor did.

    Kaminsky at 5? He was projected late 1st round before tournament. I do a admit he showed up Okafor but maybe thats just because of his high IQ and ability to shoot. But can he defend the paint and play well against legit centers in NBA? I think many players are ahead of him. I have Kaminsky going to Pacers in lottery.

    Winslow might have been more valuable than Okafor, yet Okafor is 1 and Winslow is 7....hmm.

    And Hezonja can easily be another J.R Smith/ Monta Ellis type. Quick trigger with no discipline.
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    Just remember this: Mudiay had 15 points & 6 assistsin 21 minutes (2014 McDonald's All-American Game). Okafor was the MVP…there wasa reason why Okafor-Mudiay were the 2most highly touted, rated, coveted HSrecruits last year.


    Guys like Towns, and Winslow, played on teams with 6-7other blue chip, All-Americans… Most nights, they played against FAR inferiorcompetition… teams with 1-2 All-Americans. NBA scouts realize this… This doesn’t suggest Towns wont dominate… butlet’s not diminish Mudiay’s status b/c he played in China, b/c we say Kentuckydominate Vanderbilt.

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