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    Default 2015-2016 ESPN computer rankings are out

    The ESPN computer rankings are out and as I said it wasn't going to be predicting a playoff spot for the boys. Last year the computers predicted a 38-44 record but a playoff spot in a weak EC. This year 25-57, next to last in the EC beating only the lowly Sixers in the standings. No 1st round pick this year makes the ESPN prediction especially painful.

    Cavs, Bulls and Hawks are the top 3 teams with Miami a much improved 4th in the rankings.

    http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13...east-standings

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiger0330 View Post
    The ESPN computer rankings are out and as I said it wasn't going to be predicting a playoff spot for the boys. Last year the computers predicted a 38-44 record but a playoff spot in a weak EC. This year 25-57, next to last in the EC beating only the lowly Sixers in the standings. No 1st round pick this year makes the ESPN prediction especially painful.

    Cavs, Bulls and Hawks are the top 3 teams with Miami a much improved 4th in the rankings.

    http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13...east-standings

    I said we wouldn't win 30gms. I wish ESPN would just stop farting around and hire me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Broadway View Post
    I said we wouldn't win 30gms. I wish ESPN would just stop farting around and hire me
    They have a twitter hash tag u can send a comment to. Some guy tweeted a healthy Melo, Affalo and Lopez makes you better than 14th in the east. The reality is 17 win teams win less than 30 games the following year nearly 70% of the time so a prediction of 25 wins should surprise no one.

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    Its hard for ESPN to make any prediction on who will be the EC 8th seed, 7th seed, or 6th seeded team before the 2015-16 regular season begin. The EC offseason depth chart shows 5 playoff teams in the ...Cavs, Bulls, Bucks, Hawks, Heat, and probably the Wizards making the postseason games with each team having minor injuries in the regular season.
    Teams like the Nets, Celtricks, Pacers, Raptors, and yes the Knicks too are just a trade or 2 away from making the 7th or 8th seed in the Eastern Conference.

    Im putting all my start of the season bucks on the long-odds of Timberwolves making the 8th seed in the big bad Western Conference. The Wolves has the best coaching-staff in the NBA by addin a "Player-Coachin-Staff" in 39 yr old KG n Andre Miller, plus 35 yr old Prince to tutor a system into a young athletic rostor. Those 3 "Old-Head" veterans cover all 5 positions on the court.

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    I don't think we will be very good this season, but I still think 25 wins is a little low. I wonder if that projection includes a prediction that Melo will miss a lot of games again this season or that we will trade him mid-season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiyaman View Post
    Its hard for ESPN to make any prediction on who will be the EC 8th seed, 7th seed, or 6th seeded team before the 2015-16 regular season begin. The EC offseason depth chart shows 5 playoff teams in the ...Cavs, Bulls, Bucks, Hawks, Heat, and probably the Wizards making the postseason games with each team having minor injuries in the regular season.
    Teams like the Nets, Celtricks, Pacers, Raptors, and yes the Knicks too are just a trade or 2 away from making the 7th or 8th seed in the Eastern Conference.

    Im putting all my start of the season bucks on the long-odds of Timberwolves making the 8th seed in the big bad Western Conference. The Wolves has the best coaching-staff in the NBA by addin a "Player-Coachin-Staff" in 39 yr old KG n Andre Miller, plus 35 yr old Prince to tutor a system into a young athletic rostor. Those 3 "Old-Head" veterans cover all 5 positions on the court.

    Actually ESPN coupled with the SCHOENE model has been doing it for several yrs now, their secondary piece only a few yrs. And since they have they've been fairly accurate when it comes to our Knicks and pretty close with projections overall. So no it's not difficult for them at all. It's been difficult of our team meeting the lofty goals they've placed on us.

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    25 only happens if Melo misses a lot of time, Porzingis is a total bust and Lopez and Afflalo don't play well.

    I don't see it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Knixy View Post
    25 only happens if Melo misses a lot of time, Porzingis is a total bust and Lopez and Afflalo don't play well.

    I don't see it.
    PJ talks too much. Now he's quoted in the Phil Files that his biggest fear is Zinger is the next Shawn Bradley, if he felt that way he should have never drafted the kid no matter how much Clarence Gaines liked him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiger0330 View Post
    PJ talks too much. Now he's quoted in the Phil Files that his biggest fear is Zinger is the next Shawn Bradley, if he felt that way he should have never drafted the kid no matter how much Clarence Gaines liked him.
    Yeah I read that but Shawn Bradley was a total stiff. Porzingis is much more athletic and quicker.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Knixy View Post
    Yeah I read that but Shawn Bradley was a total stiff. Porzingis is much more athletic and quicker.
    Plus Zinger's body frame is different. Bradley you had the sense from day one that he was going to be a bean pole his entire career. Zinger has broader shoulders and a bigger frame than Bradley that will fill out in his 20's.

    Still I wish Phil would just zip it, if the Zinger does turn out to be a bust his comments are just going to come back to haunt him.

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    Shawn Bradley was several inches taller and came into the league at the same weight that Porzingis is now. If Porzingis can continue to add muscle, he will have a better shot at holding his own down low than Bradley did. That said, Bradley still blocked a lot of shots and played generally good defense despite his skinny frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by htr10 View Post
    Shawn Bradley was several inches taller and came into the league at the same weight that Porzingis is now. If Porzingis can continue to add muscle, he will have a better shot at holding his own down low than Bradley did. That said, Bradley still blocked a lot of shots and played generally good defense despite his skinny frame.
    I was just reading about him, he played 12 seasons, didn't think his career was that long so he wasn't a total bust. Funny how we remember players but this is the play I remember Bradley for, TMac posterizing Bradley in a playoff game.


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    Yeah, I'm not sure why Shawn Bradley is remembered as such a bust. He went 2nd overall, but that 1993 draft was one of the weakest drafts of all time with only a few guys like Webber and Penny Hardaway ever being stars for any period of time. Bradley was probably one of the NBA's best shot blockers ever and he averaged double digit points for a bunch of years, but somehow never managed to average more than 8 boards a game, possibly because of how he could get pushed around in the low block.

    ...okay, that's probably enough about Shawn Bradley, at least from me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knixy View Post
    25 only happens if Melo misses a lot of time, Porzingis is a total bust and Lopez and Afflalo don't play well.

    I don't see it.

    nah if all of what you said were reversed if carmelo played every game, and lopez,along with alflalo play their usual average games, and porzingis surprises, the knicks are still not a 30 win team most likely.

    ESPN along with some of us posters, the few of us that is, have been spot on with the knicks over the past few years.

    The fact that Denver owns the knicks pick is even more disgusting. The carmelo trade, that ugly trade, is the gift that keeps giving to Denver..

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    Shawn Bradley annnd Dirk ...the 2 softest frontcourt bigs in a lineup ha ha ha

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