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    Originally Posted by mafra
    Another reason to grab Hill then; pay him more than a playoff team can afford then we trade him at deadline for a future 1st.
    yeah, i kinda like that idea.
    blame vegas

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    Originally Posted by Broadway
    Once again how did he hurt his knee?
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    I can't wait for you to break this knee pain conspiracy wide open.
    This kid is made of sand, let the conspiracy begin



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    Originally Posted by Broadway
    This kid is made of sand, let the conspiracy begin


    Wow, you have a good memory. That post from me was from over 3 months ago. Ntilikina has given us 18 minutes of playing time between Summer League and preseason, so yeah, you're right, there's a problem here.

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    Originally Posted by Broadway
    This kid is made of sand, let the conspiracy begin


    Saw him doing shooting drills with the coaches with no noticable limp, he's behind the curve and he's a rookie so he's not starting in OKC it'll probably be Sessions but the good news is it doesn't appear to be a serious injury.

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    Originally Posted by tiger0330
    Saw him doing shooting drills with the coaches with no noticable limp, he's behind the curve and he's a rookie so he's not starting in OKC it'll probably be Sessions but the good news is it doesn't appear to be a serious injury.
    Yeah, he probably could play if this was a Game 7 of Finals but at the same time guys play hurt all the time or not 100% and the fact he's played so little is alarming. Keep in mind he's not even practicing, like why can't he practice and get reps in? He has no structural damage, no tissue damage. All reports say he's experiencing 'soreness'. Say it's a minor injury and he's not ready to play a real game once again he should at the very least be practicing.

    I personally think not only is he not durable(physically strong) but I think he's not challenging himself enough mentally and may be a little soft here. I get the fact he's a good guy but sorry we need him to MAN Up and quickly! Makes it worse when the face of the franchise is rowing in the same boat of fragility.

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    Originally Posted by Broadway
    Yeah, he probably could play if this was a Game 7 of Finals .
    well no worries here... maybe his grandkids will see the knicks in a game 7 of a finals...

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    I wanna be like Embiid !!!!

    For the past 3 seasons the Knicks been getting closer n closer to becoming the decade Lottery team 76ers.

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    Bizaarre!!!


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    Originally Posted by Broadway
    Bizaarre!!!

    The PG situation is pretty pathetic. I was thinking that Horn might start Frank over Sessions and Jack, because what does he have to lose but the more practices he misses the less likely that happens. Weird he didn't practice today because he was in uniform on the bench yesterday while KP was in a suit.

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    Originally Posted by tiger0330
    The PG situation is pretty pathetic. I was thinking that Horn might start Frank over Sessions and Jack, because what does he have to lose but the more practices he misses the less likely that happens. Weird he didn't practice today because he was in uniform on the bench yesterday while KP was in a suit.

    Who knows how this organization is operating but here's something a little more positive


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    Originally Posted by Broadway
    Yeah, he probably could play if this was a Game 7 of Finals but at the same time guys play hurt all the time or not 100% and the fact he's played so little is alarming. Keep in mind he's not even practicing, like why can't he practice and get reps in? He has no structural damage, no tissue damage. All reports say he's experiencing 'soreness'. Say it's a minor injury and he's not ready to play a real game once again he should at the very least be practicing.

    I personally think not only is he not durable(physically strong) but I think he's not challenging himself enough mentally and may be a little soft here. I get the fact he's a good guy but sorry we need him to MAN Up and quickly! Makes it worse when the face of the franchise is rowing in the same boat of fragility.

    Wsup Broadway .... If u were in Frank sneakers .. this is what u be thinking ..

    Frank played two years on a winning team in France, he started out as a spot minute bench player to work himself into the starter lineup to lead the point into the championship games.
    Its all good gravy to a Frenchmen to be drafted early in the NBA as a lottery pick selection ..
    But to be drafted by the decade number one mismanagement tanking Knicks, where the organization fired the Knicks HOF President a couple of weeks after the President selected you in the draft.
    The paper-work is on hold bc the top CEO been fired, but the fans expect u to still play on the Knicks summer-league team .. Plus when you get back to France, after being selected by the Knicks in the draft to go play in the championship round, everyone is happy for u for making the NBA but every thing they mention in France bout the Knicks organization are all bad n negative, and when u finally do ur research on the Knicks organization u find out all the bad n negative talk bout the Knicks are not rumors .. You start reading all the news on the Knicks organization to find out they just FIRED the famous Phil Jackson, plus the two star franchise players want out of the Knicks organization. And the day u finally go to the Knicks training-camp to watch how the coaches n teammates work, to only notice they are not hard into their work as the French team u left .. plus you find out the first preseason Knick game are against the number one worst NBA team the past few years, but this worst NBA team are playing twice as better than ur Knicks team by building a 20 pt lead on the Knicks in the 2nd half of the game.
    Im sure Frank called Embiid to ask what do u do when ur drafted by a team that has deep rooted plans on tanking the next 3 seasons .................

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    NYK actually spent money on free agents and they didn't make a single trade to absorb bad contracts... this is far from the PHI "process"...

    The idea is to tank 1 season, so they can add a third lottery stud to the KP-WHG-Nitty triumvirate.... this is how you rebuild today, loading up on 3 lottery hits plus a late draft steal.

    If we aren't a 40+ win team come 2018-2019, then KP, WHG and THJr failed....

    The goal is to show enough promise this year and to gain chemistry so it pays dividends next season, when you inject a lottery stud....

    Then you're a shrewd trade and/or a free agent signing away from really having something.

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    Originally Posted by mafra
    NYK actually spent money on free agents and they didn't make a single trade to absorb bad contracts... this is far from the PHI "process"...

    The idea is to tank 1 season, so they can add a third lottery stud to the KP-WHG-Nitty triumvirate.... this is how you rebuild today, loading up on 3 lottery hits plus a late draft steal.

    If we aren't a 40+ win team come 2018-2019, then KP, WHG and THJr failed....

    The goal is to show enough promise this year and to gain chemistry so it pays dividends next season, when you inject a lottery stud....

    Then you're a shrewd trade and/or a free agent signing away from really having something.
    another nice goal to have would be to get dolan to sell the team once and for all to someone who's not a total *******
    blame vegas

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    Originally Posted by mafra
    NYK actually spent money on free agents and they didn't make a single trade to absorb bad contracts... this is far from the PHI "process"...

    The idea is to tank 1 season, so they can add a third lottery stud to the KP-WHG-Nitty triumvirate.... this is how you rebuild today, loading up on 3 lottery hits plus a late draft steal.

    If we aren't a 40+ win team come 2018-2019, then KP, WHG and THJr failed....

    The goal is to show enough promise this year and to gain chemistry so it pays dividends next season, when you inject a lottery stud....

    Then you're a shrewd trade and/or a free agent signing away from really having something.
    How many times has the Knicks done what u mention in the past Decade (when having a first round draft pick), or trade players throughout the season to lower the cap to go after free-agents, which all resulted in Knicks having consecutive seasons of 50 or more losses.

    Having a plan of going after one of the top-5 suggested 2018 draft picks, plus making this type of plan during the 2017-18 preseason games .. are a plan the Knicks organization GM Isiah Thomas did during the 2004-5 preseason games to select Channing Frye, David Lee, and Nate Robinson out of the 2005 Draft-Class to match up a long side of the previous season 2004 draft pick Trevor Ariza. The Knicks did not waste any time trading these young players for veteran players.
    The Knicks did the same old-thing with their young first round picks in 2006 Balkman/Collins, 2007 Wilson Chandler, 2008 Gallinari, and 2009 Jordan Hill. WHY?
    The Knicks Coaching-Staff has stunk of failure for 2 decades to improve young players skills n talent to the NBA pro-level !!!


    Head-Coach Mark Jackson would be the best NBA head-coach for the Knicks young players (Frank/Dotson/WHG/Baker/KP/Mcderm) for the next 4 seasons !!!

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    ESPN Insider picked Frank as this years top 10 pick most likely to struggle. I said when he got drafted that DSJ was likely to have a better year and the Knicks picking him ahead of DSJ likely would take a few seasons to see if he was the right pick at 8. I'm hoping his brains get him ahead of the curve because his body worries me with his missing games early because of minor injuries.


    Top-10 pick most likely to struggle

    Schmitz: Frank Ntilikina | G | New York Knicks

    Ntilikina's length, defense, feel, shooting potential and professional approach should help him evolve into a very good NBA player in time, but he'll likely take his lumps this season, as he isn't the most naturally aggressive or explosive guard. It might time him some time to adjust to the NBA 3-point line, as well as the length and athleticism of the league offensively. Ntilikina also figures to have his struggles if put in a position to create offense regularly in the half court.

    Givony: Frank Ntilikina | G | New York Knicks

    Ntilikina will be fine long term, but he will likely be asked to do far more than he is ready for in a pressure-packed environment in which his mere existence will be questioned early and often. It's only a matter of time before the New York media turn on him, sadly.

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