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    Lonzo Ball got minutes and was bad last night. Career over? Not still a generational talent?

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    Rookie Kareem Hunt fumbled on his 1st career possession this season. Chiefs should have given up? NFL leading rusher lost cause before getting his chance?

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    Ramona Shelbourne was told she scared children and also adults. Caused nightmares in death row inmates. Did ESPN give up on her? No, sheís on the TV right now doing her thing. Frank can do it too.

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    Originally Posted by Broadway
    This kid is made of sand, let the conspiracy begin



    Who's getting on this conspiracy train?




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    Originally Posted by Broadway
    Who's getting on this conspiracy train?



    Alright, never mind, the hell with Fragile Frank. Draft PG again in 2018? 😬

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    Originally Posted by htr10
    Lonzo Ball got minutes and was bad last night. Career over? Not still a generational talent?
    I'm not sold on Lonzo but like DSJ, Fox, Fultz and Simmons he has a stickout quality, that ability as a playmaker with those laser passes. I haven't seen anything like that from Frank other than he can't stay on the floor.

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    Originally Posted by tiger0330
    I'm not sold on Lonzo but like DSJ, Fox, Fultz and Simmons he has a stickout quality, that ability as a playmaker with those laser passes. I haven't seen anything like that from Frank other than he can't stay on the floor.
    Yeah, see my above post. Iím done with Frank too now. Who do we like in the 2018 draft? Whenís that next Ball kid coming out? Letís get him.

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    Originally Posted by htr10
    Yeah, see my above post. I’m done with Frank too now. Who do we like in the 2018 draft? When’s that next Ball kid coming out? Let’s get him.
    If you go to the Draft Thread I've posted the prospect getting the most Buzz...Doncic

    But there's also Porter/Bagley/Peters as of now, more names will surface

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    DSJ swollen knee and won't play tonight.

    Mavericks rookie point guard Dennis Smith Jr. was a late scratch for Friday's game against the Kings due to left knee effusion, a buildup of fluid in the knee.

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    Originally Posted by tiger0330
    DSJ swollen knee and won't play tonight.
    Probably from that dunk attempt

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    NEW YORK -- Just a few hours before the Knicks tipped of the 2017-18 NBA season with a 19-point loss to Carmelo Anthony and the Oklahoma City Thunder, Michigan State sophomore forward Miles Bridges spent time at Madison Square Garden for Big Ten Media Day.

    Bridges is an explosive 6-foot-6 forward who opted to return to Michigan State for his sophomore season instead of being a likely lottery pick in this year's NBA Draft. He's now projected as the No. 6 pick in 2018 via ESPN.com.

    So with Bridges in the Garden for Media Day and the Big Ten Tournament beginning Feb. 28, how would he feel about potentially being drafted by the Knicks?

    "It's going to be great," Bridges told me on The 4 Quarters Podcast. "If the Knicks draft me, I'll be extremely happy. It's a great organization. I know it's been going through a lot in the past few years but every team goes through that and at some point it's going to be a turnaround point. So if I were part of that turnaround point, then I would be happy."

    The Preseason Big Ten Player of the Year, Bridges is focusing primarily on trying to win a national championship as a sophomore with his teammates. But he can't help but look at some of his classmates like Phoenix's Josh Jackson and Sacramento's De'Aaron Fox in the NBA. Bridges said he would prefer to go to an NBA team that is rebuilding, as opposed to a super-team like Golden State, Houston, Oklahoma City or Cleveland.

    Bridges averaged 16.9 points and 8.3 rebounds last season.

    "Bridges is arguably the best athlete in this draft and plays a coveted position as a two-way forward who can guard all over the floor," ESPN's Jonathan Givony wrote. "He converted 39 percent of his 3-pointers as a freshman and is making strides with his ball-handling and playmaking abilities as well. After passing up the chance to be a lottery pick in last year's draft, Bridges will be expected to show significant improvement while leading Michigan State on a deep NCAA tournament run."

    Bridges is the first of a parade of projected lottery picks who will play at the Garden during the 2017-18 college basketball season, and you can bet more of them will be asked similar questions.

    Duke features 6-11 freshman forward Marvin Bagley III, a potential No. 1 overall pick, 6-10 freshman forward Wendell Carter Jr. and 6-3 freshman point guard Trevon Duval -- all projected lottery picks. The Blue Devils will be in the Garden Feb. 3 to play St. John's.

    Kentucky, which features freshmen wing Hamidou Diallo, freshman forward Kevin Knox and freshman big man Nick Richards, comes to the Garden Dec. 9 to face Monmouth.

    Syracuse, UConn, Gonzaga and Villanova all play at the Garden in December, and the Mecca hosts the Big Ten and Big East Tournaments during March Madness.

    So expect more and more college players to be asked about the Knicks with the way they are projected to finish.

    "The Knicks will not make the playoffs," Shaquille O'Neal said Thursday on TNT. "This is a rebuilding process for the Knicks. They'll probably go 31-51 again this year."

    One Garden source said the hope around the Knicks was to "show progress and improvement."

    "I don't want to be in the middle of the pack," the source said. "I want to win 20 games and get the No. 1 pick."

    Two years ago, of course, the Knicks were in the mix for the No. 1 overall pick, and ended up choosing at No. 4 to get Kristaps Porzingis. This year, they again went the European route to take French point guard Frank Ntilikina at No. 8 -- just ahead of N.C. State freshman point guard Dennis Smith Jr. to Dallas.

    Now, assuming the rebuilding Knicks again land in the lottery, they could be in the mix for a player like Bridges.

    "Miles is I think somebody special for all college basketball, because he's -- I call him my blue-collar star," Spartans head coach Tom Izzo said. "And he's got the humility and the humbleness of an everyday player and the skills of a very, very good player."

    Smiling from ear to ear, Izzo called it a "Christmas present" when he found out Bridges was returning for his sophomore season.

    "I got a Christmas present in April when Miles, shockingly to me, decided to come back," he said.

    Bridges -- or some other current college star -- could turn out to be the Knicks' Christmas present next June.

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    This is exactly why I would seriously consider firing Horny if I were the new GM.

    The goal of this season is to win 12 to 20 games and gro the kids.

    Instead, Horn benches WHG and hardly plays Ntikilina. Why? Again, who cares about defense? Develop their strengths first.... defense (especially team defense) will come with experience.

    Why play Lance Thomas, Sessions, or Lee? Unbelievable.... if this becomes the norm I can his but by Jan.

    KP doesn't like him and it's just beginning to look like he's not the right fit for these kids. Not to mention the current GM didn't hire him.

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    Originally Posted by mafra
    This is exactly why I would seriously consider firing Horny if I were the new GM.

    The goal of this season is to win 12 to 20 games and gro the kids.

    Instead, Horn benches WHG and hardly plays Ntikilina. Why? Again, who cares about defense? Develop their strengths first.... defense (especially team defense) will come with experience.

    Why play Lance Thomas, Sessions, or Lee? Unbelievable.... if this becomes the norm I can his but by Jan.

    KP doesn't like him and it's just beginning to look like he's not the right fit for these kids. Not to mention the current GM didn't hire him.
    My gut reaction is that I agree that Hornacek not playing WHG is a problem. On the other hand, if OíQuinn and Kanter really did work that much harder than WHG in training camp, then you canít take away from a coach his ability to play the guys who have earned it.

    I will say this though, WHG could have gotten us a 1st round pick in trade not that long ago. If we donít play him and donít trade him and then do the usual thing where we wait until he has no value to move him, that is going to be a problem for me.

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