Game Thread: New York Knicks @ Brooklyn Nets 7:30 10/08/2017 [Preseason Game #3]

Thanks for the game thread, Rady.

Looking forward to watching this game, but starting to get a little frustrated with Fragile Frank.

At the center position, O'Quinn started game 1, Kanter started game 2, now WHG starts game 3.

Whoa, what a sequence. KP block sparks the fast break that ends with alley oop to THJ.

Horn better come up with starting and second unit lineups. These poor starts since PJ can be blamed in these revolving door lineups. Today Jack, THJ, CLee, KP and WHG are the starters. Frank didn't even dress, is he going to play tomorrow? I think you can rule him out as the starter day 1. If he's not healthy Knicks are going to have to make a decision about who to cut to make room for Jack.

I know it's only preseason, but geez, we continue to look bad.

15 pts on 7 Knick to's by the Nets and shooting 54% on 6-11 3s has the Nets up 36-28 early 2nd.

WHG and Kanter are two versions of the same player and neither are good defensively. We need to move one of them for a 1st round pick if we can.

Our defense is non-existent. If this carries over to the regular season, we are easily a bottom 5 team.

Losing 59 - 41 at the half and that's probably closer than we deserve.

Last years team looked better than this one. KP imo a long way from being the franchise player taking over from Melo. Frank who many were looking forward to being a pass first, defensive PG has played 18 mins total in games since the Knicks drafted him. Sessions or Jack aren't going to win you many games as the starting PG. Yeah this looks like another losing season.

Saw this show up on my Twitter TL, is this team that unwatchable?

htr10 said:

WHG and Kanter are two versions of the same player and neither are good defensively. We need to move one of them for a 1st round pick if we can.

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I said when we traded Melo and got back Kanter, it would probably create a problem in the frontcourt. I bet Hornacek doesn't know who he should really start or what his rotations should be in general.

If we're supposedly going young then that's what we should roll with but we all know we're being fed a bunch of crap here

Maybe we're going to get what some fans want. I thought we were going to win 30+ games, but after watching how bad the effort has been in the preseason, maybe this team is going to struggle to beat just about anybody. It seems silly to say, but there are maybe only 2 guys on the roster who can change this defense is optional culture and those guys are Noah and Ntilikina.

Broadway said:

Saw this show up on my Twitter TL, is this team that unwatchable?

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What are you talking about? That's a great play. He threw the ball out of bounds instead of taking the sack.

Announcers talking about it now. Watching how hard Noah is playing in the 3rd quarter makes you appreciate how lazy everyone else is playing.

htr10 said:

Maybe we're going to get what some fans want. I thought we were going to win 30+ games, but after watching how bad the effort has been in the preseason, maybe this team is going to struggle to beat just about anybody. It seems silly to say, but there are maybe only 2 guys on the roster who can change this defense is optional culture and those guys are Noah and Ntilikina.

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Noah gets too much respect. He can't even make layups any longer and he's not the defender he once was. He admits he's a step slower and he's coming off the bench this season. Frank hasn't proven anything yet except he can't stay healthy.

tiger0330 said:

Noah gets too much respect. He can't even make layups any longer and he's not the defender he once was. He admits he's a step slower and he's coming off the bench this season. Frank hasn't proven anything yet except he can't stay healthy.

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Agreed in all those regards. But, compared to how the rest of this team plays defense, at least Noah and Ntilikina (in that 1 game he did play) look like they have the intention to stop the other team from scoring. Our other guys, man, I can't even tell you what they are trying to do on defense. It just looks awful.

If the Knicks wanted a defensive culture you would get a guy like Booker who just welcomed Dotson to the NBA with that block. Carroll is pretty good but makes too much money.

KP out the rest of the game with a sore hip.

tiger0330 said:

If the Knicks wanted a defensive culture you would get a guy like Booker who just welcomed Dotson to the NBA with that block. Carroll is pretty good but makes too much money.

KP out the rest of the game with a sore hip.

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Remember when PJ was going to spend the offseason acquiring "defensive" players? Yeah, Mills went in a different direction.